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Episode 14: The Show Must Go On

 

Doree returns to Los Angeles after a trip to Disney World with exciting news – Startup: A Novel is out in paperback! To celebrate, the women discuss how they met, their writing processes, and how the Twilight fandom is connected to Kate's book. Then they speak to Shadi Petosky (owner of Puny Entertainment, creator of Danger & Eggs, and Executive Producer of Netflix's Twelve Foreverwho talks about keeping a tight calendar, insisting on sleep, and how producing is a form of self-care. Plus, she gives us the goods on her amazing nails and Elton John's Oscar party.

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Best of Kate & Doree's High/Low: Low Edition

It's not always time for a splurge, so we've rounded up the best of Kate and Doree's "Low" products from the podcast's High/Low segment. Read on for the podcast's most effective serum, mascara, toner, and more — that won't bust your budget.

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Episode 13: Old Habits Die Hard

Doree and Kate discuss Doree's recent trip to Target -- where she was tempted by the sweet, affordable Universal Thread line -- and the feeling of backsliding on her commitment to try to only buy sustainable or secondhand clothing. Then the women speak to Mary H.K. Choi(author of the YA novel Emergency Contact) about binge eating, letting go of old habits, and that one time she purchased a $4000 jacket. Plus she recommends a classic red lipstick! 

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Mini-Episode 4: Hand Cream And Managing Anxiety

In this week's mini-episode, Kate and Doree answer a listener question about what small things they do to manage their anxiety on a daily basis. They also hear from a pair of pen pals who separately wrote into the show with questions about hand cream and removing makeup, and get a listener recommendation for a great body positivity follow on Instagram. 

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Episode 12: Make Me Up Before You Go Go

It's the return of High/Low! Kate compares mascaras and Doree gets to the bottom of the great virgin marula oil conspiracy (note: there might not actually be a conspiracy, but there's a really expensive one and a really cheap one). Then they talk to Anya Yurchyshyn, author of the brand-new memoir My Dead Parents, all about her makeup obsession and her tips and tricks for getting the most out of your makeup. Many, many product recommendations below!

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Mini-Episode 3: Beauty Boxes and Laser Hair Removal

On their latest mini-episode, Kate and Doree debate the merits of beauty subscription boxes — are they fun surprises to get in the mail, or do they just leave you with lots of clutter? They also give advice to a 23-year-old who's wondering whether she should add a retinol to her skincare routine, and Doree discusses her experience with laser hair removal (she is unequivocally pro).  Also, this is the essay that Doree mentioned on this episode.

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Episode 11: Craft Services

Kate and Doree sit down in similar loose-fitting outfits to reminisce about who first taught them about makeup, skincare, and self-care. Was it their moms, their bunkmates at camp, college friends, Oprah Winfrey or Sassy Magazine? (Spoiler alert: all of the above.) Plus Doree details the emotional side of purging her home office, and Kate talks about the spa day that got her through the recent anniversary of her mom's death. Then they're joined by TV writer, author, and Feminist Ryan Gosling creator Danielle Henderson, who dishes on her unique path to becoming a TV writer, how crafting and letter-writing keep her calm, and washing her face with sugar. Yes, sugar. 

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Mini-Episode 2: Learning To Love Yourself

On this week's mini, Doree and Kate kick things off with a question from a 19-year-old listener, who asks if the urge to crawl out of your own skin goes away with age. Plus they discuss they best way to keep your feet soft and smooth in winter, and get a product recc from a listener in Belgium.  

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Episode 10: Meal of Approval

Kate and Doree discuss the struggle that is meal planning and cooking for your family, and talk about strategies to cope. (Be sure to check out Kate's separate post about meal planning!) Kate has a new philosophy for cooking for her two kids, which is to keep things as simple as possible, involving her kids in meal prep, and serving food family-style. Then they get YA author Jenny Han (The Summer I Turned Pretty series, the To All the Boys I've Loved Before trilogy) to share her chocolate chip cookie secrets and how to make the perfect scrambled eggs, as well as her skincare regimen and her favorite lipsticks.

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Kate's Ever-Evolving Guide To Meal Planning

In Episode 10 I talk (complain?) about my experiences (failures?) meal-planning for my family. While it's been a bumpy journey of dry muffins and rejected casseroles, I did want to share some of what I've learned along the way. Be warned: it is a work in progress! As we like to say on the pod, I am not an expert. But I am a working (from home) mom who has to feed two kids on a regular basis. These are the rules I'm trying to live by when it comes to cooking for my family (if you don't have kids, not all of these may apply to you, but hopefully you find something in here that helps). I'd love to hear what tricks you have up your apron.

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Episode 9: Quitters Sometimes Win

Doree and Kate sit down with producer, writer, and director Priyanka Mattoo (The Homestay), who discusses how her experiences with post-partum depression after the birth of her son helped her get serious about her self-care. Plus, Priyanka walks us through her simple but effective skincare routine, and tips us off to the Maybelline lip stain she's been wearing for over ten years.  

Doree and Kate also celebrate Doree's big news: she quit her job! 

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Episode 8: Clothes Call

Kate and Doree talk to actor, writer, podcaster, and director Kulap Vilaysack (Bajillion Dollar Propertie$, Origin Story: A Documentary, Who Charted?) about being a Taurus and enjoying earthly delights, breathwork, the Grinberg Method, therapy, astrology, directing a documentary about her family, and the Lao community. (Follow Kulap on Instagram and Twitter.)

Plus, Kate interviews Doree about Slow Clothes Movement, her Instagram where she chronicles her journey to shopping less and buying more ethically.

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Doree's Guide to Purging Your Closet, Shopping More Mindfully, and Loving Your Wardrobe

I’ve learned a lot over the last few months of trying to live a more “slow” life when it comes to fashion. To me, this means getting rid of clothes that no longer serve me, whether by selling, donating, or recycling; coming up with a uniform or at least a cohesive closet of clothes that I love to wear and look good on me; buying new clothes almost exclusively from ethical and sustainable brands; buying clothes secondhand; and in general, shopping more mindfully. My goal was to bring joy back into my closet, to feel good about myself in my clothes, and also to stop contributing to the fast fashion industry. By no means do I have it all figured out — I did recently impulse-buy a pair of sneakers on a trip to Target — but I'm trying, and I am mostly feeling much better about my wardrobe than I did six months ago! Here are my tips, which I talk about on Episode 8 of the podcast, Clothes Call.

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Episode 7: Sleep On It

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Our guest this week is the very funny actor and writer Mary Holland, who can be seen on shows like Veep and Blunt Talk. Mary details how sleep is her own personal form of self-care, and discusses the healing power of Sex and the City. Doree and Kate also go deep on sleep, breaking down the steps they take to wind down at night before bedtime. Plus they do another high/low product review, which includes one very expensive Tom Ford lipstick. 

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Episode 6: Brush the Day Away

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Kate and Doree are joined by Kima Jones, founder of Jack Jones Literary Arts. The publicist and writer — called  "2018's literary breakthrough" by the LA Times — details her daily dry brushing habit, how she finds time for self-care while running a business, and her love of Elomi bras. Kate and Doree also break down their own personal showering habits, and Doree quits Whole 30 and is very happy with her decision.

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Episode 5: Up In The Air

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Doree and Kate talk to Shirley Braha, aka the mom of internet celeb Marnie the Dog! They dig into her passion for practicing the piano for an hour a day, and her recent adventures in investing in cryptocurrency. Plus, Doree also gives us an in-depth look at how she practices self-care while traveling, and Kate starts (and kind of fails?) the Whole Life Challenge. Click through to read more and get a full list of products mentioned on this episode!

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Episode 4: Bath of Least Resistance

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Doree and Kate talk to Jasmine Guillory — author of the wonderful novel The Wedding Date, writer of a TinyLetter with great recipes, and taker of a nightly bath — all about her bath routine. Before they speak to their guest, Doree and Kate talk about some of their own rituals: Kate goes through her entire nighttime skincare routine, and Doree talks about her self-care weekend. Click on "Read More" for a full episode rundown, plus a list of the products mentioned on this episode!

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Episode 3: If You Masked Me To

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Kate and Doree talk to Lauren Adams — one of the stars of Unbreakable Kimmy Schmidt and proprietress of the Masking for Trouble Instagram — all about her favorite face masks. Plus, Kate discusses two cookbooks she loves, and Doree wonders why she's doing Whole30. Click on "Read More" to find out more about this episode, plus get a full product rundown!

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