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Episode 37: Natch Beaut Crossover! with Jackie Johnson
Kate just got back from New York, where she enjoyed a slightly touristy visit to her favorite city in the world. Doree, on the other hand, has been vomiting. Morning sickness is hitting hard, though some sister-recommended medicine is working and she’s adjusting to a vaguely sick-all-the-time feeling. Despite feeling ill, Doree read more than three books in a week and found a cozy mystery series that hasn’t hooked her yet.
Then, the women talk to Jackie Johnson of the Natch Beaut podcast. Jackie talks all about figuring out the difference between vegan and cruelty-free products, getting away from bad people in her life, and the healing powers of her exceptional dog, Chooch. Follow Jackie @JackieMicheleJohnson on Instagram and @Jackie_Michele on Twitter.
Episode 36: Makeup Makeover with Erin Gibson
This week, Kate talks about the struggle to get away from her phone and finally deleting the Facebook app. Doree, on the other hand, is keeping her phone in her room and plowing through the Poldark series (she’s already on book 12!).
Then, the women speak to the wonderful Erin Gibson, host of the Throwing Shade podcast and author of Feminasty. She talks about the insane injusticies of the patriarchy, how women get ignored by doctors, and some shocking facts she found about the makeup industry. Follow Erin @Gibblertron on Twitter and Instagram and buy her book!
Episode 35: Perfecting Imperfection with Keiko Agena
Doree and Kate are just back from camp where they shared a cabin, a bed, and a trendy but see-through bathroom. While at The Wing’s No Man’s Land Camp, the women did their first live podcast and Kate dealt with her social anxiety in an easy and open way. Then, Doree shares that she’s in the very early stages of pregnancy! Afterwards, Kate and Doree go through some products that they did not love, including a few major fan favorites.
Later, the women welcome actress and author Keiko Agena (No Mistakes). She talks about the majority of her acting work going unseen, dealing with finding social connections in adulthood, and the good things that fandom can bring. Follow her @keikoagena on Instagram and watch her on Season 4 of Better Call Saul and the upcoming Dirty John and Hulu’s The First.
Episode 34: Laughter Heals with Maeve Higgins
This week, Kate goes all in on rolling out and adds another lovely thing to her gratitude practice. And Doree talks about using Instagram to boost confidence and the anxiety that comes from a cult-favorite workout class. Then, Courtney Chiusano is back with tips about sunblock, milia, and the importance of facials.
Later, the women welcome author, comedian, and podcaster Maeve Higgins (Maeve in America). She discusses finding out about self-care in America, not caring much about dating, and doing a comedy workshop in Iraq. Listen to Maeve’s podcast and follow her @MaeveinAmerica on Instagram.
Episode 33: The Mother Load with Angela Garbes
This week the podcast starts with shocking news – Kate blocked Doree on Instagram (by accident)! After the wound is healed, Kate discusses working through her social anxiety, while Doree talks about getting mistaken for a 27 year old at the facialist. Then, the women detail their underwear preferences and give out their favorite brands of underpants.
Later, Kate and Doree welcome author Angela Garbes (Like A Mother). She talks the ongoing taboos and lack of information about a woman’s body during pregnancy, the neglect mothers face after birth, and the sad state of America’s status in maternal health. It might sound sad, but Angela gives informative, eye opening, and funny commentary on the whole world of motherhood. Follow her @AngelaGarbes on Instagram.
Episode 32: Sober Living with Melissa Broder
This week, Kate talks about a wonderful night of masking and her ongoing struggle to get to bed early. Then, Doree discusses her trip to Las Vegas and being relatively new to the world of fandom. Later, the women give their book recommendations that range from non-fiction about a recent scam to a novel about a guy whose wings spread when he’s feeling amorous.
Then, Kate and Doree welcome author Melissa Broder (Pisces, Last Sext, So Sad Today). She talks about using twitter to cope with anxiety, the meaning of sobriety in her life, and her ongoing compulse to announce every chin zit.
Follow Melissa @sosadtoday on Twitter or on her brand new Instagram account @realmelissabroder.
Episode 31: Current Product Obsessions with Samantha Irby
This week, Kate discusses her ongoing love of Phish while Doree’s going in deep on Poldark and starting a new gym routine. Then, the women reveal their favorite products of the moment. No serums this time, but Kate does have a sponge that’s kind of changing her life.
Later, Kate and Doree talk to the hilarious Samantha Irby, creator of Bitches Gotta Eat and author of We Are Never Meeting In Real Life and others. Samantha talks about not being allowed to have a hysterectomy, her unlikely road to becoming a writer, and dealing with anxiety in a thriving career. Follow Samantha @wordscience on Twitter and @bitchesgottaeat on Instagram.
Episode 30: Side Hustle to Main Hustle with Alisha Ramos
This week, Kate and Doree reflect upon family nicknames and borderline regrettable email names of the past. Then, Doree talks about unfortunate IVF comments she gets from well meaning friends and Kate shares how she made a peaceful shrine in her bedroom. As promised, the women then set up their 6-month intentions.
Later, Kate and Doree talk to Alisha Ramos, nationally recognized leader in tech and founder of the popular newsletter “Girls Night In” (once described as “a warm hug in your inbox”). She talks about quitting a high profile job to pursue her passion project, how to find a mentor, and why it’s been so helpful to leave her phone at home. You can follow @alishalisha on Twitter and subscribe to the amazing Girls’ Night In.
Episode 29: Forty Isn't A 4-Letter Word with Glynnis MacNicol
This week, Doree talks about the difficulty of finding a routine when you work from home, while Kate expounds upon her new love of her gratitude sharing practice. Then, Kate dives deeper into her year-long plan to get ripped and Doree shares a truly wonderful gift from her sister. Also, the women look back on their 2-month intentions and get ready to set some additional long term goals.
Later, Kate and Doree welcome author Glynnis Macnicol (No One Tells You This) who discusses leading a fulfilled life as a single woman without children, going through the pain of caring for a parent, and the skin saving magic of lemon water. You can follow Glynnis @GlynnMacN on Twitter.
Episode 28: Keep It Moving with Alexis Tirado
It’s almost Kate’s birthday (at the time of recording)! She’s leading a gratitude challenge, which has helped her overall happiness. And with this new positive thinking, Kate sets a goal to get ripped before she turns 40.
Also, Doree talks about beating the ungodly heat of LA, some new makeup, and her dog’s adorable safety booties. Then, the women speak to Alexis Tirado, an award winning writer and head of Pero Like on Buzzfeed. She discusses her love of perfume, church as self-care, and how to keep going when you’re faced with rejection. Find her @AlexisTT on Twitter and @AlexisTT on Instagram.
Episode 27: Uniform Factor with Rachel Wilkerson Miller
This week Kate and Doree dig deeper into the topic of loneliness, and how it impacts all of us at different times in our lives. They also hear from listeners who detail their own struggles and stories of isolation, and swap strategies for getting through it. Then they talk to Rachel Wilkerson Miller, Buzzfeed Senior Lifestyle Editor and author of the book Dot Journaling—A Practical Guide. Rachel discusses her passion for journaling, creating a personal dress code, and why staying organized is her favorite kind of self-care.
Episode 26: You Deserve It with Lauren Lapkus
Doree and Kate welcome SAG Award-winning actress and comedian Lauren Lapkus (Crashing, Orange Is the New Black). She talks about the power of vision boards, her obsession with Riley Rose, and why she moisturizes her neck. Follow Lauren @laurenlapkus on Instagram and Twitter or like her Facebook page.
Plus, Kate discusses her cycle of summer stress and depression, and Doree digs into the challenges of finding an age-appropriate friend group when you don't have kids.
Episode 25: Creature Comforts with Aminatou Sow
Dogs! Kate and Doree start the show by talking about the wonderful dogs in their life and the importance of pets to self-care. Kate talks about the happiness of snuggling her dog Lucy every night and Doree’s started an instagram for her adorable Beau (it's @BeauregardBosch on Instagram and it's a delight).
Then they welcome much-requested guest Aminatou Sow, co-host of the Call Your Girlfriend podcast. She talks about the learning to ask for help after she got cancer, scrubbing as self-care, and being disappointed by Kim Kardashian’s latest ad partnership. Follow her amazing Instagram stories @aminatou.
Episode 24: Growing Your Garden with Helen Rosner
This week, Kate finds a pretty amazing lip color dupe (though the product’s name is pretty barf-worthy) and Doree gets a journal that just might meet all of her planning needs. Then, the women discuss gratitude and the best ways to make it a regular practice in their lives.
Later, the women talk to the lovely Helen Rosner, food correspondent at the New Yorker. Helen shares a tarragon soda with Kate and Doree and goes into her spa anxieties, love of dogs, and tells us all why we should start growing corn. You can follow her @hels on Twitter.
Episode 23: Calming Your Anxiety with Maurene Goo
Kate is back from an anniversary trip to Italy and tells all about her first time face masking on a plane. Doree then discusses her current IVF cycle and the importance of advocating for yourself (especially when someone’s trying to stick a needle in your arm).
Afterwards, the women welcome back facialist and natural skincare expert, Courtney Chiusano. She answers listener questions and covers everything from pregnancy skincare to eye creams for hereditary dark under eye circles. You can follow Courtney on Instagram @CourtneyChiusanoSkinCare.
Then, the women speak to Maurene Goo (author of I Believe in a Thing Called Love and The Way You Make Me Feel, amongst others). She talks about the ups and downs of living abroad, the unexpected joys of hair brushing, and self-care as a way to calm anxiety. Follow her @MaureneGoo on Instagram and Twitter.
Episode 22: Just Say No with Nora McInerny
Kate and Doree are both in home organization mode. Doree reveals her birthday kitchen project, while Kate details her newly organized linen closet.
Then they talk to the amazing Nora McInerny, host of the Terrible, Thanks for Asking podcast, author of It’s Okay to Laugh: (Crying is Cool Too) and founder of Still Kickin', a non-profit that supports people going through awful things. Nora talks about dealing with tragedy, how to actually help people who are grieving, and the many joys of drugstore makeup. Follow her @Noraborealis on Twitter and Instagram.
Episode 21: Mother of Intention with Emily Gould
This week, Kate and Doree talk about decluttering and reorganizing different areas of their homes, and Doree reveals her renewed interest in piano. Then, the women discuss how their lives can be improved in little ways over the next 60 days and set their 2-month intentions.
Then Kate and Doree talk to Emily Gould, co-owner of Emily Books and author of Friendship (and the upcoming Perfect Tunes). Emily talks about her cookbook club, motherhood, and the good and bad of the internet — and the time her two-year-old destroyed her bottle of Good Genes.
Episode 20: Skincare Questions with Courtney Chiusano
Kate opens the show by marvelling at the many listeners from all over the world, while Doree has to guess the top 5 states that download Forever35. Then, Kate discusses sauna miracle she recently experienced and Doree talks about a hotel bidet that changed her butt-care forever. Then, the women detail their nightly skincare routine.
Later, Kate and Doree have the pleasure of speaking to Courtney Chiusano, facialist and skincare expert. Courtney talks all about the differences between oils, the dangers of at-home peels, and answers tons of listener questions. You can book a facial with Courtney through her website or follow her on Instagram @CourtneyChiusanoSkincare.
Episode 19: Old Friends With Allyson Livingstone
Kate's getting over a stomach bug and talks about sticking to self-care when you're not feeling your best. Then, Doree talks about her routine for regular nail care while Kate picks up some tips and sets an intention to stop hating her hands.
Later, Doree interviews a dear friend, Dr. Allyson Livingstone. Allyson has a PhD in social work and is Brandeis University's inaugural Director of Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion Education, Training, and Development. Allyson shares her fascinating career history, the glories of pregnancy hair, and how The Real Housewives is an important part of self-care.
Episode 18: Hair of the Dog with Jess Rona
Kate explains how to get quality Sephora samples without feeling bad about it, and Kate and Doree debate the merits of IKEA (Kate: very pro, Doree: somewhat skeptical).
Then they welcome comedian, celebrity dog groomer, and Instagram star Jess Rona, who shares how she has built her business after turning to grooming in a time of desperation. You can follow Jess on Instagram @JessRonaGrooming to see amazing dog videos or buy her new book, Groomed, for supremely cute pics of clients like Katy Perry's dogs.
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