Not experts, just two friends who like to talk about serums.

This episode Kate and Doree go deep into mental health. They talk about the stigma that still exists around anxiety and depression, SSRIs, and how to find the right therapist for you (at least one that won't fall asleep during a session). Plus, Kate shares her first ever positive experience with a psychiatrist and Doree tells all about the Broadway dance class that's made it into her self-care routine.

Then, the women have the pleasure of speaking to Amy Spalding, author The Summer of Jordi Perez (And the Best Burger in Los Angeles). Amy talks about balancing a full time job and a thriving writing career, staying body positive when you're surrounded by body negativity, her love of lipstick, and why she'll never say goodbye to Grey's Anatomy. Follow Amy at @theames on Twitter and @thatames on Instagram.