Mini-Ep 286: Clock Blocking
Kate’s book launch is tomorrow! Plus, Doree recognizes some good things that have come out of the pandemic. Then, listeners call in about whether to play chicken with furniture, share their love of Jones Road products, and ask how to get rid of Big Clock’s daylight savings agenda.
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Kate: Hello, and welcome to forever 35, a podcast about the things we do to take care of ourselves. I am Kate Spencer.
Doree: and I am Doree Shafrir.
Kate: and together we are not experts.
Doree: No, but we are two friends who like to talk a lot about serums.
Kate: And this is a mini episode where we hear from you. We share your comments and your thoughts, and we answer your questions to the best of our ability.
Doree: Indeed. But please do remember we are podcast hosts. We are experts in being podcast hosts.
Kate: This is true.
Doree: Not really.
Kate: This is true.
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Doree: Well you succeeded.
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Kate: I was visit my brother and sister-in-law this past weekend in Seattle. And you know, I was trying to be very helpful. They have a new baby and they have a, almost two year old. So they've got a lot going on. And I was doing the dishes, like as much as I could, anytime there was a dish in the sink, but I was like, the dishwasher conversation from past many episodes was in my head. And I said to them, I was like, now, are you particular about how I do this? And my sister-in-law listens to the podcast. And she was like, oh yeah, because of the conversation. And I was like, yeah, she was like, I don't care. But you should check with your brother. Turns out my brother is particular about the dishwasher. So I tried to follow his rules.
Doree: Oh, wow.
Kate: But I had, I had this community in my ear. Every time I did it, I was like, I really, I really thought about it. I checked in first. I felt like I've learned something from our conversation. And so.
Doree: what have you have you learned?
Kate: Since I wanna thank you. What I've learned? That one, I don't give a how dishwashers dishwashers are loaded. And two to always ask first check in about their system.
Doree: You know, you know, Kate, this came up at my poker game last week.
Kate: Wow. What topical conversation we've been having here on the podcast?
Doree: Because our host said to me, oh, you can just throw that in the dishwasher. And then she was like, I know this is controversial.
Kate: Does she listen to the podcast? Or she just knows it's controversial.
Doree: No, no. She listens to the podcast. No, she and I are very good friends. So, you know, I think she felt comfortable just saying to me, throw that in the dishwasher. But she, she agreed with me that like, if this is something that if to you, as a host, like really bothers you, then like you need to, to just say something. So.
Kate: yeah. You've gotta communicate your dishwasher. Boundaries.
Doree: Communicate your boundaries.
Kate: or you, if you don't wanna verbalize it, put a little sign on your dishwasher that says, don't worry about loading me. Is that weird?
Doree: Wait. But the, but the original person wanted her guests to load the dishwash the original listener.
Kate: That's right.
Doree: Yes. Right. You keep getting this mixed up because-
Kate: me too, there's been so much feedback on there's on this.
Doree: There's been so much feedback, but the original listener was, was put out because her guests did not put their dishes in the dishwasher. Um, they just put them in the sink.
Kate: That's right.
Doree: Anyway, it was just funny. And then like the people at who were there, who did not listen to the podcast were like, what's this? And like, then we got into like a whole conversation about it. Anyway. No case.
Kate: So sorry, what were you going to say? Yes.
Doree: Well, what I was going to say is for of all your book comes out tomorrow,
Kate: Doree. It does. It really does. I'm overwhelmed by this experience of, uh, of, I just, I I'm overwhelmed. That's it.
Doree: You're overwhelmed. Okay. Okay.
Kate: And, and, and excited.
Kate: I've been, people have been so supportive and I'm, I'm feeling, I'm feeling it excited too. I'm feeling pumped.
Doree: Are you feeling the love?
Kate: Yes, I am. I'm getting to good sign. A bunch of books this weekend that people pre-ordered. I will say this is your last chance to pre-order this book. And again, even though it's a day before my book comes out, it still extremely helpful to have you pre-order it still helps build buzz and interest. So if you have it in your heart and you wanna tap that pre-order button from any bookstore, any independent bookstore, wherever you get books, audio books go to Libro FM. I mean, you can just go anywhere. My book is waiting for you, but you know what? I won't, I won't hold it against you. If you order it after it comes out, I'll be just as happy. I appreciate every click.
Doree: Ugh. Every page turned, we love a click.
Kate: Thank you, Doree. I do love a click, not a click, like a click of friends who are me, but a click on a computer. Yeah, no. Yeah. So I really appreciate your support, Doree and listener support. And I am excited. You know, this is, I've been working on this book for a long time and I really did wanna write, I did wanna do it. So here I am doing it. It feels crazy.
Doree: Here you are doing it. And I just wanna say, if people haven't listened to the episode from last week where I interviewed Kate Spencer about her book, it's really a, I mean, I think it was an instant classic, forever 35 episode.
Kate: You did, uh, request that it be, have the word words, bone zone in the title of the episode, I couldn't argue with that. I couldn't argue with that. That Is my essence.
Doree: Look, when you have the opportunity to put the words, bone zone in the episode title, I think you have to take it.
Kate: and we don't have that opportunity often.
Doree: You know, we, we don't, we really don't.
Kate: Oh my goodness. We are picky. Yeah. Well go. You know, I also and listen, thank you, Doree. And, and I did wanna say that, um, it's not too late to sign up for our forever 35 virtual event, which is essentially just gonna be you and me gabbing casually, as we like to do it is happening on March 18th, 7:00 PM. No, excuse me. 8:00 PM. Eastern 5:00 PM. Pacific. All you have to do is sign up show proof of purchase that you bought my book from somewhere. Uh, it doesn't matter where and you're in. Um, so we will include that link in the show notes.
Kate: I'm very grateful to have Doree join me in this journey, in this adventure. And I can't wait to, to chat with listeners there or, or anybody it's not just forever 35, but let's be honest. If you don't know the eggplant emoji reference, we're just gonna have to teach you about it. Yeah. Yeah. Well, and, and we should say that this is this Friday, this coming Friday, and I'm also live in person in conversation Wednesday, March 16, with friend of the pod, Maureen, Goo at Chevalier in Los Angeles. Come, come get a book sign, come say hi. I will be there. So when Maureen will be chatting, she's the best. It's be very excited to be in person. And then, you know what? This will be all over soon. I'll be done. I'll be done chatting about this for the I'll probably never stop talking.
Doree: No, uh, I don't want you to stop talking about it. You don't get to stop talking about it.
Kate: Oh, there's a, there's a whole new book I'm working on, on the horizon. So this will, this will never end. This will never end. Yes. This is my job. I love it. Ah, but I have, I have like pulled a back muscle and I have like a cold that I got from my nephew. Like I am kind of my body's starting to kind of crumble under the like emotional stress of everything I'm putting myself through, you know, all the big feelings.
Doree: Yep, yep. Yep.
Kate: I've chewed my nail off my, my nail off I've chewed my nails off. Not all the way off, but I've been nibbling full disclosure. I am gonna get fake gel X extension nails for my book launch. I figured. Why not? You know? Yeah. You gotta get a fake nail. Not why not. Anyway. So that's, that's up with me. This is a big week for me all. Tomorrow's my daughter's ninth birthday. Like just a lot going on.
Doree: Wait, Kate, let's also talk about the fact that your hair is so long and luscious right now.
Kate: Doree. It is long and luscious. I would, I mean, luscious, I don't know, might be an exaggeration, but it is long. Although I will say like we have a bunch of, um, podcast sponsors right now who have really great shampoo that I've been loving. So maybe I just owe it to Vegamour and Prose. Cause I use both the Shamp on the regular. There you go. Little, uh, non sponcon there, but thank you. Thank you for noticing through this video chat at how it's just so much hair.
Doree: It's it's it's a lot of hair. I really like it. I feel like usually wear it up so I don't get to see it in its full glory.
Kate: I would say it has. It's reaching when my bra, when my boobs are in a bra, it's reaching almost nipple. It's reaching Areola. Okay.
Doree: Wow. It's Areola length.
Kate: Yeah. It's Areola length. I mean, this is is exciting. Well, you're, you're, you're like at shoulder and I'm at areola.
Doree: I am at shoulder, but you know, my hair had gotten quite long. I think it was close so long to Ola. And I was just, I was just feeling like it was getting a little too long for me. Um, but you know, who knows it could get that long again.
Kate: Areola is also a beautiful name for a child. Like.
Doree: I would never, could you never do that?
Kate: It's a, I mean, obviously it means that a around your nipple. So I wouldn't name a kid that, but in a world where it didn't mean that isn't areola kind of a pretty name.
Doree: I mean,
Kate: Am I pushing it? I'm pushing it. Sure. Thank you. Well, look enough about me. How are you over there? My friend,
Doree: you know, I am fine. Um, I'm excited because the next power zone pack challenge just started.
Kate: You were a real leader of this. Do what is it called? Doree spaceship.
Doree: Well, the, the, the team name changes every time a new challenge starts because the theme changes. So right now we're voting on the new team name. Um, but yes, last time it was Doree's space hotel, but you know, there was the, there was the miscommunication. So on Facebook they had changed our name to Dorene's space hotel. So then that became like a very funny joke, at least to me. Um, anyway, yeah, I wasn't able to fully complete the last challenge because I hurt my foot. So I'm excited to get back in the saddle literally and figuratively. I'm excited for you to get physical again, you really, you really enjoy this type of, kind of personal competition, if you will.
Kate: You're competing against yourself in a group.
Doree: Yeah. And you know, I, I have no, and I think it was a combination of like getting injured and sort of like losing the momentum, but I haven't been on the bike as much lately and I'm excited to just like have the structure again. So yeah, that really helps. Especially when our, you know, you, you work from home. Things are still a little in that weird, vague quarantine esque area in terms of getting, you know, this is like, this is very random. And, but something that I was thinking about, you know, when we, when we talk about kind of like things that have come out of the pandemic, I will say one of the things for me that has come out of the pandemic is like, I organize activities with friends. Like I now have, I have a monthly poker game with some friends.
Doree: I have a monthly Maja game with friends. I have some friends that I play tennis with. Wow. And like, that's something that like, didn't exist for me before. And then you have the internet, community of Peloton, cyclists that you cycle with. Yes. That's amazing. Yeah. So, so it's interesting. And I, I, I truly don't think this would've happened without the pandemic, which is so interesting because I, I don't know. I, you know, I learned how to play Majong over zoom during the pandemic and then tennis, I took up again because it was an outdoor activity. It was like one of the few things that like, I could really, you know, I wasn't going to a gym. And, um, and yeah, and then poker was, I mean, it exactly born of the pandemic, but I think it became something, you know, for a while we were like playing in a open door garage because it was like outdoor, you know what I mean? Like there were just sort of like things that we could do. And I think it felt good to have something kind of like formally organized in a way. I don't know, just sort of like riffing here.
Kate: I love that. I think that, you know, it's weird. We're, we're going to look back on this time. And obviously I think reflect on the grief and the trauma and the fear and all the, the scariness, but it's also changed our lives in ways that we can't fully understand like, things like that, you know? And, and totally, those are the strange little moments where you're like, you know, you're able to find not gratitude because we're not grateful for this, but you can find these little bits of joy and happiness that have come out of it. I think that's really lovely.
Doree: Yeah. It's just kind of made me think about how like, leisure time had really changed. I think for a lot of people, sorry, now I'm gonna get like real philosophical, but like,
Kate: no, I, this is interesting.
Doree: When I think about like, in my grandparents' day, you knows, they, I think they had a weekly, if not multiple times weekly bridge game with like their friends and that is something that just like has died out. And maybe, I don't know, maybe it's just my age, but like I find myself sort of like craving those sorts of activities. And maybe it's also because I really don't drink anymore that much. So it's like meeting friends at a bar for drinks is like, not really what I'm seeking out anymore. And then also the pandemic. I wasn't like going out to bars, but I don't know. It's just an interesting shift. And I wonder if other people are experiencing anything like this.
Kate: I think it's very interesting. I think, I think it's a conversation we should keep having, because I've definitely, yeah. I mean, the other thing, the other thing is that we've aged during this. Like you mentioned that maybe it's your age, but it's like, well, we've also gotten two years older. I think I was 40 when the pandemic started. So you were a babe in arms. I was truly a we child and now I am a grown goddess.
Doree: Um, yeah, I would love to keep talking about this. I also do just wanna mention that my newsletter, my, my non forever 35 newsletter has launched it launched last week. it's called.
Kate: Now We're talking.
Doree: Well, what's so funny is I talked about it on excellent adventure last week. And Matt said, okay, okay. Oh no, no, no. Every time you say it, you have to say, you have to say it. Like now we're talking. He's like, you have to say it, like you say it. And I was like, what do you mean? And he's like, you know, like you, he was like, that's something you say, which is like something you had said, but he was like, say it, like you say it. And I was like, okay, now we're talking there it is. Now whenever I say it, I say, so I've launched this newsletter now we're talking well,
Kate: there's also a little bit of like a who's on first aspect of it. Because if someone else you say I launched a. newsletter and my response is now we're talking.
Doree: Right, exactly.
Kate: That can be interpreted. Like you might not know that that's the name of the newsletter. It's so true. It's really great. I really enjoyed your first, not episode your first newsletter.
Doree: My first newsletter. Yeah. Um, so please do check it out. Whether or not you subscribe. I just, you know, I appreciate any and all feedback you can subscribe at Doree dot Substack.com. That's D O R E E dot Substack.com.
Kate: Great. Well, Doree, let's take a pause. And when we come back it, we've got a very fun question about furniture, chicken.
Doree: Oh, baby.
Doree: All right. We are back and as promised we have a voicemail,
Voicemail: Hi, Kat and Dor calling from Quincy, Massachusetts, a quick relationship question. My boyfriend and I, who are both in our mid to late thirties, um, are getting ready to move in together, which is wonderful and exciting, but we both have full apartments of stuff. So two bedroom sets, two kitchen tables, two sofas. How do you decide whose stuff you keep? Um, my stuff is eclectic belong to my grandparents and my parents. His is less than two year old, west El and great barrel FA things. I just don't know. Neither one of us can really kind of bear to part or bear to make the other choose. So we're kind of playing a weird game of furniture. Chicken. Any advice is greatly appreciated. Thank you for the pod and all that. You do. Bye
Doree: Furniture, chicken.
Kate: Furniture, chicken. Ooh. I love furniture chicken. Cause I feel like I know furniture chicken.
Doree: Oh yeah?
Kate: A little bit. Or just like home object chicken. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, like there's just certain things that like, you kinda silently play chicken over. You know? So who wins in this situation?
Doree: Well, I think we need to do a gentle reframe.
Kate: Oh boy.
Doree: And not view it as one person winning.
Kate: mm. The two souls coming together.
Doree: Yeah. Because I think when you start using this language of like, I won the game of furniture chicken, like you're kind of starting on a sort of antagonistic note. Instead we're, we're talking about like blending two, as you said, blending two souls and all of their worldly possessions together. Mm. So what I would suggest is I don't. Okay. So I personally don't think it has to be all one or the other.
Kate: Mm yeah. Agree.
Doree: Like, I don't think the whole new place has to be all west Elm or all sentimental for furniture. Um, what, what you could do is each of you could go through and like pick, I don't know, the five items that are like most significant to you and hopefully they're not the same. Like hopefully you don't both choose like the bed, the couch, the dining room table, you know what I mean? Um, and so maybe start there, um, because I feel like this could quickly become this sort of like passive aggressive or aggressive, aggressive conversation. And I just wouldn't want it to go there. What do you think Kate?
Kate: Well, I think you actually changed my mind. My first instinct to this question was like, get rid of all the west Elm sentimental all the way. And then I realized like, well, just because something is from west Elm and isn't like a 200 year old piece of furniture doesn't mean it doesn't have value in sentiment and importance in this person's life. So I wanted to just take a step back for myself.
Doree: You know, I will say something that I learned when Matt and I combined our furniture is like he had, he had recently gotten a lot of new furniture that like, I didn't really like, but it was very kind of symbolically important to him because it was like the first kind of like adult furniture that he had bought on his own. Yeah. And so I think it's worth, like you said, sort of taking that into consideration as well.
Kate: I really appreciate that point of view. So I, I think an inventory of what you're bringing in and then a conversation about each item is a great idea. And then I would consider like one figuring out where if you wanna sell, donate in your case, if you have sentimental items that might, you know, be important to you, perhaps it's storage, perhaps it's passing it on to another family member. Um, I do think there's a way to kind of really come together on this. Yeah. And only strengthen your relationship further.
Doree: Exactly. I also think, you know, it's also worth considering like your new space, like his couch might not fit your dining room table might be too big. You know what I mean? And so like, I think that should also be part of the conversation. Like for example, when Matt and I were moving in together, I, I had a queen bed and he had a king bed and like, we were gonna take his bed like there, you know what I mean? Like.
Kate: Oh Doree. Yes.
Doree: Like, obviously. So like, I think there's things like that that do need to kind of be taken into consideration. Like what furniture is actually going to like fit our new life together better. It might be your armchair, but it might be his armoire.
Kate: I really, I, this conversation went to a place I didn't know where it was gonna go. And I really actually, the it's really interesting and I enjoy it. Oh, I'm grateful for your, your thoughts on this,
Doree: Gee. Well, thank you, Kate.
Kate: Well, shifting gears,
Doree: let's shift gears.
Kate: Someone wrote in,
Text: Hi! I'm just listening to the latest episode and am loving listening to Doree interview Kate, and I can't WAIT for my ore-order of In a New York Minute! I had to pause the pod to tell you both that I absolutely love Jones Road and to go for it! It's the first new makeup i have bought in a long time and it's fabulous for everyday looks. I especially love the miracle balm. I use the color au naturel all over my face every day instead of a foundation, and then either susty rose or flushed on my cheeks in place of blush. I also have some of their other products and I love it all. It's excellent makeup and really reasonably priced and I adore it. It all makes me look so glowy and awake without looking too makeupy, so it's perfect for work calls, and driving the afternoon carpool/after school activities taxi for my kids.
Kate: And then another listener wrote,
Email: Hi Kat and Dor,
I was just listening to today's pod when Kate mentioned her interest in Jones Road Beauty's Miracle Balm. I was so excited because I bought some of their products a couple months ago (including the Miracle Balm in the color Magic Hour) after being successfully targeted on TikTok with their ads. I have to say, I'm obsessed. I am already itching to buy more of the Miracle Balm shades because I love the way it makes my skin feel. Bobbi Brown has some good videos on the Jones Road Beauty TikTok account explaining the different shades and how to use them. I can't wait to hear if Kate ends up trying this product and how she likes it!
Kate: Oh, add to cart. Add to cart. I guess it's gotta happen. You know, I guess it's, this is it. This is the moment of truth. I will commit to some Jones Road purchasing.
Doree: Okay. Hey Kate, you gotta do it for the pod.
Kate: I guess I could also reach out to them and ask if I could try the products. I always forget that we can do that. You know, as, um, as quote, beauty, podcasters.
Doree: Hey we are the recipients of the iHeartRadio award for best fashion beauty podcast.
Kate: I know. I know. I still feel like an imposter in the beauty space. I mean, let's be honest. I'm I'm here spraying Salic acid on my butt. Like what am I?
Doree: It worked!
Kate: It did. And that is part of beauty. Butts are beautiful. Look you, no, I'm gonna bring it back to butts. Sorry, everybody. I gotta bring it back to buts.
Doree: You just always have to bring it back to butts.
Kate: But anyway, I will say, but, uh, maybe. Okay. So I will either reach out or I will buy some and I will let, I will give it a try. Are you, are you curious about Jone's Road?
Doree: I think I, I think I said this when we talked about it, that I am Jones road curious.
Kate: All right. We've gotta talk to Jones road.
Doree: All right. Well, Kate, let us take another break.
Doree: All right. We are back. And this person writes,
Text: Hey Kat & Dor / Captain Door,
I'm hoping either the two of you or the extended F35 community can provide tips for throwing a birthday party for a parent. My mom is turning 70 and has requested that my brother and I throw her a party. We have a venue (a tented food truck park) but what sort of activities should we organize? Are there adult birthday party games (a la baby shower games) that a large group (50-70 people) can passively participate in? HELP!
Also, in case a suggestion is "Ask your mom what she wants," I regret to inform you that I've tried that (LOL). Despite rather demandingly stating that she expected a birthday party, she's being very "Oh, whatever you want!" about all of the details. PARENTS!
Helpful(?) info:
- I live out of state, but my brother lives in the same city as where the party will be
- The composition of the party will likely be adults ages 30s-70s
- My mom is dealing with some chronic pain, so no activities that require a ton of physical activity
Thanks! Also, I'm so excited for your book, Kate, and your new newsletter, Doree!
Doree: Oh yes. Okay. Sorry. Um, this is quite a conundrum.
Kate: I have thoughts.
Doree: Okay.
Kate: So my suggestion would be not to play games.
Doree: I was, I was going to say the same,
Kate: right? I don't think you need games. What I think you need are stations of act activities that people can participate in that your, that can then be curated into meaningful things for your mom. And I would also suggest collecting stuff beforehand, like photographs for a slides show or question questions about your, your mom that can be read out. People could even guess who's said like, you know, share a funny story and guess who it's about with my mom, stuff like that. Um, but I think trying to get people to participate in large party games, I actually think, especially since your mom is dealing with some chronic pain, I would just not even worry about that.
Doree: I completely agree. I think, I think a slideshow set to music is like a great idea. If you have some old home videos, like, and if this is too overwhelming for you to put together, there are gajillions of people and companies who will do this for you. Yes. Um, so I think that that is great. It will like make your mom feel good. Um, people will, people who are at the party will probably see themselves in the pictures or, you know, you could do, um, a video like the famous Kris Kardashian. I love LA video.
Kate: I Love My Friends.
Doree: That might take a little more work. I love my friends. Yes. I love my friends that might take a little bit more leg work. Um, especially since you're out of state, but also an option. Um, I will also tell you something that my mom love that you could do. My, my mom loves a, a song, a a, a well known song that you make up new lyrics too.
Doree: Do you know what I mean? Like, this is something that people do for like color war at camp.
Kate: Yes. I, I did do this at color war at camp. I just love that your mom loves it. She loves it, which is essentially what Kris Jenner did with. I love my friends.
Doree: Yes, yes, exactly. So, so it would be, and I don't know if this would appeal to your mom, but my, if, if my brother and sister and I made up a song about my mom, that to whatever, some old song that she loves, I like, I just, I think she might like explode from joy. So.
Kate: I love that.
Doree: maybe you and your brother could write a song together about your mom. You know, it's like lighthearted, it's funny. It's cute and you perform it. It doesn't matter if you can sing that doesn't matter. Who cares? It's just like, it's a, it's a show of your love for your mom.
Kate: Mm it's really sweet. I also think, um, you know, getting a book that people can sign or even,
Doree: Ooh. Yeah.
Kate: For my mom's 50th birthday, her friends, uh, made her this like kind of collage of pictures of her through the years. And then on the, like the border, what's it called? The mat, um, border. What's a mat frame. Like that piece of paper that goes outside of a photograph. I forget the, but they had Mat.
Doree: The mat. Yes.
Kate: You could sign it and write little notes and stuff like that. And I think that's always very sweet too. Like, you know, and then it creates a keepsake for your mom to remember this special day.
Doree: Yep. I love that.
Kate: You need 70 candles on a cake too. You need 70 candles.
Doree: Ooh. Yeah.
Kate: You need 70 candles. Yep. That sounds, that sounds hard though. Good luck. And, uh, don't forget to make your brother do the bulk of the work.
Doree: Great advice.
Kate: That's my biggest advice. Uh, all right. Well, uh, real quick, before we wrap things up here, we've received this text. It was mostly in all caps and this listener wants to know.
Text: HOW CAN WE GET RID OF DAYLIGHT SAVINGS? Can we petition or rally or something? NO ONE LIKES IT. IT MESSES UP EVERYTHING. LETS CHANGE THIS!!!!
Kate: Many exclamation points. I mean, you can do that. Listener needs.
Doree: I actually hate standard time.
Kate: Ooh. Coming in hot Doree.
Doree: I, I like daylight saving time. I like when it's light, light later. I do too. I do too. So I am not with you listener. I would prefer that we go on daylight, saving time, year round. I don't like, I don't like standard time.
Kate: So what would it, what would that be? We would never, it would never get too dark in the, in the evening, but it would be darker in the morning.
Doree: It would be darker in the morning, but it wouldn't get dark. Like, you know how in New York in the winter it gets dark at like 4:30.
Kate: Oh yes. In Maine it would get dark at 3 45.
Doree: Right. So it would get dark at 4 45 instead. Now.
Kate: it's awful.
Doree: Kids would probably go to school in the dark, but,
Kate: but Doree would be happy. Her afternoons would be,
Doree: Doree would be happy. And that is what is important here.
Kate: That's interesting. Okay. I hadn't thought about that. That you would. I mean, I find it annoying. I really hate the spring forward day. If and people with small children, or like, let's say jobs that happen on the weekend, like it just messes everything up.
Doree: It does,
Kate: but I don't disagree with you that I do prefer a longer day in the afternoon. A sunnier day.
Doree: Yeah. Yeah.
Kate: Yeah. So, but I think this has been hasn't this like been proposed in legislation and like, this is a con an ongoing conversation.
Doree: and well, I, I, I think, I think that the takeaway from this, whether you prefer standard or save or daylight saving time, I think the takeaway is that no one likes to change the clocks. Right? Oh no. Like pick a time and stick with it. Why is that so hard? Like, I it's just, we don't need to change the clocks.
Kate: It's so, so much work.
Doree: You know, Kate, I often say that, like this isn't the hill I'm gonna die on, but I would die on this hill.
Kate: No, this is not your hill.
Doree: I would die on this hill. The no changing clocks. I would die on this hill. Well, this is a hill I'm willing to die on.
Kate: So wait a second. You can't be pro daylight savings and anti changing clocks.
Doree: No, you can. Because.
Kate: if it was, you would just be staying on daily. Yeah. You just staying on daily, saving time. I agree with you the clock, like now I'm just thinking about all the clocks, the cars, the microwave, the oven.
Doree: So here's the thing. I would prefer daylight saving time. But if someone said to me, you could, you can have your no changing of the clocks, but you have to stay on standard time. I would accept that to me. The bigger issue is the changing of the clocks.
Kate: Well, I actually feel like I have a solution for you.
Doree: Yes. I'm listening.
Kate: No more clocks. Like what if we just got rid of clocks?
Doree: You know what, I, you know what I honestly thought your solution was gonna be, that your solution was going to be, um, in the spring you move to a mountain time zone. Like you move somewhere in a mountain time zone.
Kate: I would love it. If you packed up, it's like, Hey, Doree, we're having, why are you, why are you moving to Colorado? Well, uh, did standard standard time is really wait, would that can change my clocks.
Doree: Wait would that make sense?
Kate: No!
Doree: Because they would then be two hours ahead. So I would, would be even more confused. Right? I would've to start in mountain time or I could just move to Arizona where they don't do this. They get it.
Kate: Oh, really?
Doree: Arizona doesn't do this. No, they don't Arizona. They don't change the clocks. They don't a lot of things, right. I gotta say, but they get this right.
Kate: Okay. They get this right. We can give them, we can give them clocks.
Doree: And I think most of Europe doesn't change the clocks. It's just Americans that are like, we gotta change the clocks. Why? You know what? It's big clock. Big don't it's against us.
Kate: Don't do it. Big clock's .
Doree: It's big clock. It's big clock. All right. It's big American clock. Yes. Oh my gosh.
Kate: The clock lobbyist in Washington DC.
Doree: The clock lobbyists. It's all about the clock lobby. Think about it. Do your research.
Kate: Doree did her own research and clocks and it's big clock.
Doree: All right. Listen, everyone. We'll talk to you soon. Hope you hope you move your clocks up yesterday. Bye.