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Episode 87: Great Expectations with Gretchen Rubin

This week, Doree adds showering to her to-do list and tries to get better at saying no, and Kate books her first mammogram and explores the plant-based diet world. Plus, they discuss BMs and small victories. Then they welcome writer Gretchen Rubin, who discusses The Four Tendencies, pursuing happiness, night snacking, making time to read, and how she handles stress.

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Mini-Ep 73: Toners and Tribulations

Kate and Doree hear from a listener living a real-life cozy mystery, get a few exfoliant reccs, discuss scar remedies, and answer the age old question: WTF is toner? Plus they reminisce about old tween clothing stores and their favorite mall shops of yesteryear.

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Episode 86: Skin in the Game with R.O. Kwon

This week, Kate and Doree discuss the status of their skincare routines, the siren song of expensive products, and grappling with claustrophobic clutter. Plus: Kate falls through a trampoline in an exercise class and Doree’s got an ant infestation. Then they sit down with R.O. Kwon, author of The Incendiaries. She chats about sheet-masking whilst writing, the grief-filled experience of losing her faith, how she perfected her signature eyeliner look, and why it was important to her to come out publicly as bisexual.

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Mini-Ep 72: Relationship Roles

Doree and Kate receive a nostalgic email about the Singles building, hear from a listener about their lack of initiating hangouts, give recs for getting over a breakup, and advise someone wondering how to support their husband who recently came out as trans.

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Episode 85: An Open Book with Jolenta Greenberg and Kristen Meinzer

This week Kate and Doree talk to Jolenta Greenberg and Kristen Meinzer, co-hosts of the By The Book podcast, about what it’s like to immerse themselves in self-help books, having a “work wife”, and how they practice self-care. Plus, Kate talks the joys of unplugging on her recent vacation, Doree digs into the real estate market, and they share the books they’ve been loving and what they have on their respective To Be Read lists.

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Episode 84: Beating Burnout with Emily and Amelia Nagoski

Kate takes a cue from Doree and starts sleeping with her phone outside of her bedroom, while Doree talks potentially going back to caffeine. Plus, they discuss burnout and how to actually enjoy a vacation. Then they welcome sisters and co-authors of Burnout: The Secret to Unlocking the Stress Cycle Emily and Amelia Nagoski to chat about navigating the cycle of stress, solutions to responding to the patriarchy, learning to recognize when you’re burned out, and forming healthy sexual relationships.

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Mini-Ep 70: How Do You Dupe

Doree and Kate receive an email about childhood passions and reading for pleasure, discuss product dupes, hear from someone who’s started dancing daily (thanks to Liz Gilbert!), and give advice to a listener about how to maintain friendships.

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Episode 83: 6 Month Intenchies with Alexandra Sacks

Kate talks moderating a panel at ComicCon and oiling her face, and Doree gets a haircut and relishes her polish-free nails. Plus, they recap their 6-month intentions and set new ones. Then they welcome reproductive psychiatrist, author, and host of the Motherhood Sessions podcast, Alexandra Sacks. She discusses why it’s important to demand support for mothers, setting boundaries, and learning to trust yourself as a parent.

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Mini-Ep 69: Girls Just Wanna Have Pun

Doree and Kate get some follow-ups about body acne, hear from a listener who’s finally living her best life in her 40s, discuss regional dialect differences, receive a voicemail from someone wondering how to celebrate their body, and lend advice to someone with roommate issues.

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Episode 82: Financial Freedom with Tonya Rapley

Kate recounts celebrating her 40th birthday and face masking whilst driving, and Doree details the fall she took on her kitchen floor and the joys of a life-changing breast pump. Then they sit down with millennial money expert Tonya Rapley to discuss how she went from a toxic relationship to starting her burgeoning business, My Fab Finance, and she answers listener questions about money and relationships, saving up, debt, and what you need to know before buying your first home.

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Mini-Ep 68: Body Acne Struggles with Priyanka Mattoo

Former F35 guest Priyanka Mattoo comes on this week’s episode to help Kate and Doree respond to listener questions. Priyanka answers someone who wants to know how she’s managing her life now that she has a second child, and then they hear listener suggestions for how to deal with body acne and encourage someone to brag about themselves in their bio.

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Mini-Ep 67: Thank You Notes and Shoulder Stress

Kate and Doree receive several suggestions for tense shoulders (including one from a PT!), establish Thank You Note Forgiveness Day, hear from a Zumba lover who’s embracing not caring what others think, and lend advice to a listener contemplating leaving life in the big city to move back home.

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Episode 79: Makeup Artist Secrets with Jamie Greenberg

This week, Kate reflects on turning 40 and uses serums on the go, while Doree jumps back into Pilates and cozies up her bedroom. Plus, they share all their Ikea faves! Then they welcome celebrity makeup artist Jamie Greenberg. She details her career journey from standup comic to makeup artist, answers listeners' burning makeup q’s, and explains how no two cat eyes are created equal.

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Mini-Ep 65: Sunscreen and Wanderlust

Kate and Doree swap affordable sunscreen tips, discuss self-care while your partner is away, and receive an email from a listener who feels a “phantom itch” for something more. Plus they share listener responses for the mother who wrote in about her young daughter getting compliments on her looks.

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Episode 78: Just Dance with Elizabeth Gilbert

Kate and Doree talk creaming their boobs, feeling the love from listeners, and the value of small talk. Plus, Kate finishes the first draft of her book (yay!) and Doree discusses her experiences becoming a parent. Then they welcome New York Times best-selling author Elizabeth Gilbert, who talks dancing every day as self-care, writing City of Girls while grieving the loss of her partner, and encouraging people to reframe the narrative of fear and harness their creativity.

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Mini-Ep 64: Stop in the Name of Love

Kate and Doree hear from listeners about what they’ve stopped doing for the sake of self-care, get a response regarding last week’s discussion about handling anger, lend advice to a woman who wants to support her deceased best friend’s daughter at her wedding, and share a listener voicemail full of helpful tips for job rejection.

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