Episode 84: Beating Burnout with Emily and Amelia Nagoski

“When you connect with something larger than yourself it is not your goal or destination – it’s not the end of the journey – it is why we take the journey. When you participate and engage in something larger than yourself, it gives you a reason to keep going even when things are difficult.” — Amelia Nagoski

Kate takes a cue from Doree and starts sleeping with her phone outside of her bedroom, while Doree talks potentially going back to caffeine. Plus, they discuss burnout and how to actually enjoy a vacation. Then they welcome sisters and co-authors of Burnout: The Secret to Unlocking the Stress Cycle , Emily and Amelia Nagoski to chat about navigating the cycle of stress, solutions to responding to the patriarchy, learning to recognize when you’re burned out, and forming healthy sexual relationships.

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Mentioned in this episode:

• Fleishman Is In Trouble: A Novel by Taffy Brodesser-Akner

• The Incendiaries: A Novel by R.O Kwon

• How to Be a Family: The Year I Dragged My Kids Around the World to Find a New Way to Be Together by Dan Kois

• The Wedding Party by Jasmine Guillory

• Twice in a Blue Moon by Christina Lauren

• Study about planning vacations and happiness

• Podcast Movement

• Come As You Are by Emily Nagoski

• How Not to Fall by Emily Foster

• How Not to Let Go by Emily Foster

• Down Girl: The Logic of Misogyny by Kate Manne

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