You Ask, We Answer: Sunscreen, Sandals, and Swimsuits
Listeners send in their thoughts and questions about recovery from breast reduction surgery, the hidden costs of moving, sunscreen recs for beach days, and offer a few more swimsuits and sandals for the summer .
Doree and Elise also chat about Elise’s missing cat (come home Abe!) and Doree receives more evidence for her theory that the 10th grade cohort is wild.
Mentioned in this Episode
To leave a voicemail or text for a future episode, reach them at 781-591-0390. Youcan also email the podcast at forever35podcast@gmail.com.
Visit forever35podcast.comfor links to everything they mention on the show or shopmyshelf.us/forever35.
Follow the podcast on Instagram (@Forever35Podcast) and join the Forever35 Patreon.
Sign up for the newsletter! Atforever35podcast.com/newsletter.
Transcript
The following transcript is AI generated.
Doree Shafrir (00:10):
Hello and welcome to Forever 35, a podcast about the things we do to take care of ourselves. I'm Doree Shafrir.
Elise Hu (00:18):
And I'm Elise Hu, and we're just two friends who like to talk a lot about serums.
Doree Shafrir (00:21):
And this is our newly renamed You Ask We Answer episode, a full length episode where we respond to your questions, your comments, your feedback. These used to be called mini episodes. They were shorter. We're now doing them as full length episodes every other week and trading off with our regular full length episodes. So hopefully you like this longer format. We like the longer format because it lets us kind of get into things a little bit more.
Elise Hu (00:56):
Yeah. Yeah.
Doree Shafrir (00:59):
Elise, how's it going?
Elise Hu (01:00):
It's going pretty well. By the time you'll hear this episode, I am going to be in Phoenix on the surface of the sun. It's not advisable to be in Phoenix at the end of June.
Doree Shafrir (01:14):
No.
Elise Hu (01:14):
But I will be there for a volleyball tournament. And we're going to leave the house even though my beloved cat, my tuxedo cat Abe has been on the lamb. He's been missing for five days now. We have no idea why. It's a huge mystery. There have been coyotes in my neighborhood and he's an indoor outdoor cat.
Doree Shafrir (01:40):
Don't love that.
Elise Hu (01:42):
Do not love it. I saw a coyote just running up the street that the school is on, on my way to pick up the kids from school a couple
Doree Shafrir (01:52):
Weeks ago. Oh my gosh.
Elise Hu (01:52):
Just in broad daylight just running up the street as happy as can be, like a little puppy. And I was just like, oh, this doesn't feel good for any small animals on the block.
Doree Shafrir (02:04):
No.
Elise Hu (02:04):
But that's a few blocks away. And then Abe usually never leaves our backyard. And he's very smart. He's a brilliant cat. He loves to play fetch. He can open doors with his face. He comes when called. He always comes when called, which is why it's very strange that he wouldn't be home. He sleeps at home. He spends most of his day at home. He just allowed to go in the backyard and he uses the dog door to do it. And we have been out of town for two weeks at a time and he never leaves the house. He's like at home.
Doree Shafrir (02:38):
Wow.
Elise Hu (02:39):
So it's really strange that on Friday night he just didn't come home. And the only unusual circumstances are that my parents are staying here, so we have two extra people. And then on Friday mornings, the cleaning ladies are here. So that's another two extra people. And then we were hosting a play date. So there was one extra person. So there were five extra people on top of our normal five, the usual five who lived here. And so it was double the humans. I'm thinking Abe might've been like, peace out. I'm
Doree Shafrir (03:07):
Out. Yeah.
Elise Hu (03:08):
I'm getting out of here for the day. What's so strange is that he did not come home.
Doree Shafrir (03:12):
He didn't come back. Yeah.
Elise Hu (03:14):
And on Saturday, I noticed that he hadn't eaten any of his food and he always... He's one of those, we just leave a full bowl of dry food for him at all times because he doesn't finish at all. It's like Oscar if we feed him, food's gone within 30 seconds. But Abe is a grazer. He'll just come and eat a little bit and then leave. And he's been with us since 2019. He's probably my smartest cat. I've had cats since 2004. He's awesome. I've talked about Abe a lot.
(03:50):
And we've gotten him the kitty Izekaya. So we have his kitty Izekaya restaurant out where he's a sushi chef. It's like a house where he can stick his face out of it. We put it in the Forever 35 gift guide so he looks like he's a sushi chef when he sticks his face out of it. Very cute. He's just so awesome. And on Saturday morning when I noticed he hadn't eaten his food, I realized that he still hadn't come home. And then I started panicking and we have been going up and down the block. We put posters up. I posted in all the forums next door, Facebook, La La La, all the pet company, pet search things. But I just don't think Abe would be too far. And so by Sunday or Monday when he was still gone, I got really sad because I thought for sure something awful had happened to him for him not to come home.
(04:42):
And we were just despondent all day long. But since Issa was home and not at a camp, we were like, okay, let's go leave quarter sheets. And this is a full family activity. Madi designed posters, he copied all the quarter sheets for us. Rob has been talking to every neighbor that he can, but then also discovering that some of our neighbors are a real mystery. I'll add more to that.
(05:09):
I'll add more to that in a bit because so Sunday night after I'm pretty down, Rob and I have to take Ava to a team bonding thing for her volleyball team on Manhattan Beach. The girls are playing queen of the court on the beach and me and two of my volleyball mom friends are talking and I'm telling them about Abe. And one of them says, "Oh, I'm sure he's just out on a rum springer. He's just having a good time. He just decided to go out, maybe have sex and just have a good time." And I'm like, "Oh my God. I don't know about that. He's neutered. So I don't think he's out on the prowl per se." Yeah,
Doree Shafrir (05:48):
Totally.
Elise Hu (05:49):
And the other one goes, "Have you contacted a pet medium?" And I thought, "What?" And she goes, "There's this really big deal pet medium here in Manhattan Beach that a friend of mine hired for a pretty penny. She works with the FBI and local law enforcement agency. She's one of those mediums and Jessica Alba is going to produce a show with her because she's such a big deal medium." And this mom friend's friend hired her and recounted that the medium said that their golden retriever wanted them to get another dog, which was very surprising information because they're like, "My dog wants to have another dog. He's been with us for eight years
(06:31):
And he's been alone. Suddenly he wants another dog weird. But because they trusted the medium, they got another dog from a rescue. And not more than six months later, the golden retriever gets diagnosed with a terminal cancer and dies." And they were like, "Oh my God, we're so glad that the medium told us that or got that message out of the dog. Isn't that uncanny?" And so I mean, it could have been a coincidence. All these psychics also say we're here for entertainment purposes only. But there is another realm that we can't reach and I'm curious about it and have always wanted to try and get closer to it. And so I researched the Manhattan Beach medium and she seemed very expensive. So I was like, "Can't do that. "
(07:24):
And I went back to the Manhattan Beach mom friend and she was like, "Oh, but there's same day psychic readings that you can get on Etsy. Just try some of those." She's like, "I'm impatient. I would do the same day ones." And so I got two separate, I paid for two separate same day readings on Monday. And I got one on Monday night and it said, "I have a very strong feeling. My strong sense is that Abe is alive. He's not even injured. He's alive." What gave me comfort was that she said he was alive
Doree Shafrir (07:55):
Because my
Elise Hu (07:56):
Greatest fear was that he had some sort of violent death, which I though was incredulous anyway because he's so fast. I can't even catch him to put him in a cat carrier to go to the vet. So
Doree Shafrir (08:09):
I just
Elise Hu (08:10):
Don't think a dumb coyote would get him unless it was a pack of coyotes or
Doree Shafrir (08:15):
Something. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Elise Hu (08:17):
Anyway, so I got that reading Monday night and not an hour later a neighbor who has never called me before called me and was like, "Hi, my name is Sherry. I live on my street." Because she didn't know where the missing cat was from, but she named my street and she's like, "And this is my address and I just saw a black and white cat on my back fence." And they jumped over into my backyard's backyard. So the adjoining backyard from the house on the other street because the backyards kind of abut each other. And she was like, "I've never seen cats in my yard before, but then I remembered there was that little sheet on my house and it looked just like your black and white cat. It looked at me. It just didn't come when I tried to get in to come. I didn't know its name and I just said, Hey kitty." And it just jumped over the other fence.
(09:06):
I was like, "Holy crap, that's probably Abe." And then we had this burst of faith and we went over to that house that the yard was connected to and they let us in and we looked around and somebody who was renting the back house, the ADU, which in LA there's a bunch of ADU's additional dwelling units. She was like, "Oh, we have a camera so we could put a bowl of food out here and maybe see if we can catch them on the camera." And so I put food out there Monday night. And on Tuesday morning she texted me and she was like, "Somebody came and ate the food. I think Abe came." And what was crucial was that they didn't eat all of the food. It was kind of grazed. Because I also left food at my house. I left food on my front porch thinking maybe it could draw Abe.
(09:53):
And that food just got cleaned out. So that was clearly a possum or another dog that was unleashed because it wasn't Abe. I don't think
Doree Shafrir (10:03):
That's
Elise Hu (10:03):
How Abe eats.
Doree Shafrir (10:04):
And
Elise Hu (10:05):
So this was interesting in that it was like half of a saucer of food was eaten. So I was like, oh. But then she goes, the camera didn't catch him. And now she's disappeared completely. Now I was like, because I checked in with her the next day today and I'm like, did you catch anything? Cause I went and put more food over there and she just didn't even respond. And so now I'm just like, okay. And I was really upset about that. That was my latest. And then Rob was like, "Well, this one neighbor can't be the linchpin to finding Abe or not. If Abe is that close, I left out the fact that it's only three doors down. It's like three houses down and in the other backyard. And they're pretty big backyards, I guess. But Rob was like, it just begs the question of if he is three houses down and in the backyard on the other side, why he wouldn't find his way home?
(10:52):
Why wouldn't he just come home? So he either doesn't want to come home, the cat sighting wasn't Abe, or he can't get home. There's too many obstructions to getting back here, but we won't know unless we see him. It certainly removed the grief of thinking that he was dead. I didn't want him to be gone,
(11:13):
But if he is outliving his best life somewhere, which the second psychic reading also came in and said," I sense that Abe is very much alive.
Doree Shafrir (11:22):
"Okay.
Elise Hu (11:23):
We
Doree Shafrir (11:23):
Have two psychics in agreement. That's
Elise Hu (11:25):
Right. Two Etsy psychics.
Doree Shafrir (11:27):
Two Etsy
Elise Hu (11:28):
Psychics.
Doree Shafrir (11:29):
Well, I hope that the next update I get from you is a good one.
Elise Hu (11:34):
Me too. Abe, what
Doree Shafrir (11:35):
Are you doing?
Elise Hu (11:36):
Otherwise, we just
Doree Shafrir (11:36):
Have
Elise Hu (11:37):
To live with not knowing.
Doree Shafrir (11:38):
Yeah, which sucks.
Elise Hu (11:40):
Yeah.
Doree Shafrir (11:42):
All right, Elise, before we take a break, I got this comment in our Patreon chat and I asked the person who wrote it for permission to use it on this main episode and she said yes. But I don't know if you remember in a recent episode, I said that I had a friend who was teaching high school and that it was sort of like a truth universally acknowledged that the cohort of kids who just finished 10th grade, so just finished their sophomore year in high school, are out of control.
Elise Hu (12:20):
Right.Because it might be because of them
Doree Shafrir (12:23):
Being - When COVID hit.
Elise Hu (12:24):
Them starting puberty during COVID year or
Doree Shafrir (12:28):
Something like that. Say we're in fifth grade. So there's something about this cohort of kids. And I was like, "Is this true? Are other people seeing this or is this just the case that this one high school or what's going on here?" So this listener wrote, "Had to jump here immediately 15 minutes into today's pod. Doree, the 10th grade class in my town is horrible." And that is in all caps with multiple exclamation points. "I'm not a parent, but I have a contract with the school district and work with the administrators so I have some insight to issues. I also know the parent of a 10th grader who has been navigating multiple issues of bullying towards her son. They are absolutely out of control in so many ways. Some I can't even get into here. I thought it was just us, but maybe this age group is a thing like you said.
Elise Hu (13:18):
Wow. Yeah. Wow. Well, we'll have to see if there's more patterns that emerge.
Doree Shafrir (13:25):
I know. I mean, I feel like I might
Elise Hu (13:28):
Have just - Sounds like a slate
Doree Shafrir (13:29):
Piece. I might've just unearthed something for some enterprising researcher who is not me. Also, we have these kind of fun reels on our Instagrams that are sponsored by Depop and they're really cool. You get to see what we've been buying and they were really fun to do. I am sort of camera shy, so it was a big leap for me to do these. I haven't
Elise Hu (13:59):
Seen your latest one yet. Okay, can't wait
Doree Shafrir (14:01):
To see. Also, Matt's been editing them. So it's
Elise Hu (14:05):
Been a husband-wife
Doree Shafrir (14:06):
Duo. It's been a husband wife. Content
Elise Hu (14:08):
Collab. Right.
Doree Shafrir (14:09):
Yeah, exactly. So also just a reminder, if you want to reach us for these episodes, the number is 781-591-0390. Our email is forever35podcast@gmail.com. Please write in with your questions, your comments, your concerns, your feedback. We have a bunch of people asking questions in this episode, so please write in with comments for them. You can also visit our website, forever35podcast.com. We have links there to everything we mention on the show. Our Instagram is @forever35podcast and our Patreon is at patreon.com/forever35. You can join us at the free level to get access to our semi-monthly newsletter where we discuss pod highlights, product reviews, exclusive discounts, giveaways, and then there's some more bonus content on there. For $5 a month, you get access to our casual chat, which is now on video and our live casual chats. And we have just scheduled our next one, which is going to be July 1st.
(15:10):
So fun way to kick off 4th of July if you were here in the United States. That is going to be at 12:00 PM Pacific, 3:00 PM Eastern. We'll be chatting live with everybody. You can ask us questions. The last one was super fun and you can access that if you are a Patreon supporter. So head over to patreon.com/forever35 and join us at the $5 level or above because at the $10 level, you also get ad-free episodes and a shout out on the podcast each and every month. And finally, you can shop our favorite products at shopmy.us/forever35. All right, now we are going to take a short break for our
Elise Hu (15:49):
Actual
Doree Shafrir (15:49):
Ads.
Elise Hu (15:50):
Right. A non-depot break.
Doree Shafrir (15:51):
A non-depot break, and we'll be right back.
Elise Hu (15:53):
Okay. We'll be right back.
Doree Shafrir (16:01):
All right, we are back. And we have an email from someone who has advice for the listener who was thinking about moving from their high cost of living area. Do you remember this?
Elise Hu (16:13):
Yes. Yes.
Doree Shafrir (16:14):
Do you want to read this email?
Elise Hu (16:17):
Sure. Hi there. This is in response to the caller about moving from Boston. I moved from Boston to North Carolina with the idea of saving a lot of money due to similar things to the caller listed and I would love to encourage the caller to do their homework and have a friend who loves math crunch the numbers to make sure it will work out for you. Everyone encouraged me to move south and that it was cheaper. I made the move several years ago and my cost of living stayed exactly the same. I am a fairly frugal person, but it truly did not change my finances as much as I hoped. I think in many states it's more about where in the state you live. So it may not change your financial situation as much as you would hope unless you really find the right place.
(16:56):
In fact, some jobs do pay more in places like Boston and pay less if they feel you are no longer in a high cost of living area despite all the evidence you are. Most jobs in my state don't pay as much and don't compensate if you are in a higher cost area of that state. I also have to drive all the time instead of taking the train half the time. So car upkeep and increased gas expenses is something I didn't consider. We were able to use one car in Boston and tried to keep it that way here, but had to get a second car eventually. One though is, have you considered the South Coast or farther out in Western Massachusetts? Leaving you closest to family, but maybe a little cheaper. Good luck to you. I hope you find the right place. I
Doree Shafrir (17:34):
Mean, that's a really good point. Yeah.
Elise Hu (17:36):
The
Doree Shafrir (17:37):
Place within
Elise Hu (17:37):
The state, not just the state.
Doree Shafrir (17:39):
Well, but also just the hidden costs of moving somewhere cheaper. I feel like I've seen all of these people saying how they moved to Texas and they weren't expecting their property taxes to be so high. Sometimes there's things about other places that at first you think, oh, we're going to save so much money, but then there are these hidden costs. You need a second car or it's a longer commute or just other things. So good point. Thank you. Thank you, listener. All right. We also got a voicemail about boob reduction surgery. Hey,
Listener Voicemail (18:22):
Elise and Doree, I am wondering if anybody has had a breast reduction surgery and if they have any tips for recovery. I am getting one done in a week and insurance covering all of it, which is amazing and have chatted with some people, but would love to... I just was so inspired by the really specific and amazing advice on the knee or the hip surgery that someone gave. It's such incredible advice. I thought it would be worth a call to see if anybody's had a breast reduction surgery. My boobs are a double H, hoping to go down to about a D and I've heard it can be life-changing and I've wanted it one for my whole life ever since high school. And now that I'm done having kids, I'm just really excited to take care of myself on this stage of my journey now that my mammary glands are purely ornamental.
(19:15):
Thanks for all you two too and the lovely community you've created.
Doree Shafrir (19:20):
Okay. So I have not had a breast reduction surgery, but I do have a couple of friends who have, and they actually know each other. So I texted them together and I asked them for some advice about what this listener should do. And I know this listener was asking for advice about recovery, but before I get to recovery, they did have a couple of pre-surgery pieces of advice that I do want to share. The first is to look up actual pictures of boobs and send them to the doctor. They're like, yes, you'll be Googling pictures of boobs, but it's important to get a sense of what the size you're asking for and the shape you're asking for actually looks like because they both said they wish they had gone smaller
(20:18):
And that when you are in a double H, a D might seem small. And my friend said, "I highly recommend looking at pics. Really make sure you're getting the size you want. " And then my other friend asked, "Is she just getting a reduction or a reduction and a lift?" And they said, "Definitely get the lift also." So those are the pre-surgery pieces of advice. Consider going smaller and look at pictures and make sure you and your doctor are on the same page. Because one of my friends said that her doctor did not, even what she wanted, her doctor did not go small enough and she was kind of upset about it. And then for recovery, they both said you have to sleep sitting kind of upright. So one of them said that they had rented a La-Z-Boy Easy chair for a month and she slept in it for the first week or two and said it was amazing and now she wants a La-Z-Boy for her life.
(21:23):
And then also if you don't get a La-Z-Boy, just definitely get a good upright pillow with arms and a lot of supports. The pillows that I think we used to call husbands for some reason. Oh, okay.
Elise Hu (21:34):
No,
Doree Shafrir (21:34):
I
Elise Hu (21:34):
Didn't even know about this.
Doree Shafrir (21:36):
Maybe it was a sleepaway camp thing, but yeah, we called them husbands, which now in retrospect is a little weird and creepy. Another piece of advice was you'll need button downs for the days after when you can't lift your arms over your head. And then one of them said her doctor recommended putting sunflower oil and then biocorneum scar removal on the scars two times a day after a couple of weeks when everything had healed. So those are my friend suggestions. Great, great. I'm sure our listeners have other thoughts and suggestions, so please let us know. And congratulations on taking this step. This is exciting.
Elise Hu (22:20):
Yeah.
Doree Shafrir (22:22):
Okay. Elise, do you want to read this next text?
Elise Hu (22:26):
Okay. Our next text says, "Recently started swimming laps at the pool indoor and loving it. Looking for hair and skincare recs for chlorine. I have a swim cap, but my hair still gets wet and it is a little uncomfortable so have been using a hair band just to keep hair out of my face." Door, you grew up swimming, spending a lot of time in swimming pools. I did. So did your sister.
Doree Shafrir (22:54):
I did.
Elise Hu (22:55):
You have any tried and true classics for
Doree Shafrir (22:57):
Chlorine? Well, I was trying to remember the name of the shampoo that we all used and I just Googled it and it is Ultra Swim.
Elise Hu (23:04):
Ultra Swim.
Doree Shafrir (23:05):
Yes. There's a shampoo called Ultra Swim that is a chlorine removal shampoo. So you have to get either this or something similar because even if you're wearing a bathing cap, your hair is going to absorb chlorine. So you have to get a shampoo that is going to remove the chlorine. Now you're also supposed to shower before you get in the pool and that's both to rinse yourself off. But I guess also if you wet your hair, and then some people also say to put leave-in conditioner in your hair before you get in the pool, it makes your hair less likely to absorb the chlorine.
Elise Hu (23:47):
I didn't know that, but
Doree Shafrir (23:48):
Okay. I like that. And then there's also I think a body wash. Yeah, there are some body washes for chlorine removal. Your skin is going to get super dry from the chlorine so you do really need to make sure that you shower with something specifically formulated to remove chlorine. Those are my biggest pieces of advice. I don't swim as much anymore. So yeah, I don't have any more specific advice, but maybe people here do. Also, I'm glad you're swimming indoors. Something that is tough here in California is most of the pools are outdoors. There are some indoor pools, but if you're on a swim team, you're mostly swimming outside, which is a lot of sun exposure.
Elise Hu (24:51):
Yep. Yep. Don't
Doree Shafrir (24:53):
I know it? Speaking of sun exposure, we got a voicemail where someone was asking about some sunscreen wrecks.
Listener Voicemail (25:00):
Hi, Doree and Elise. I'm calling from New Jersey where we're about to head into summer very soon. I wanted a recommendation. My beloved Supergoop moose sunscreen has been discontinued. I heard the FDA discontinued all moose sunscreens because they weren't sure of the effectiveness. I found it extremely effective, especially after my kids come out of the water at the beach. When they have sand on them, I was able to lightly dry them off and then I could put the moose sunblock on them and they never got burnt. So that was extremely helpful. My kids are older now, they're 10 and eight, but I still need recommendations on what to do at the beach when you have a sandy, damply wet child and you need to reapply sunblock. So any advice on products or strategies that you guys have would be greatly appreciated.
Doree Shafrir (26:02):
Okay. I did not know that the Supergoop moose had been discontinued, but I was wondering why I didn't see it at the store lately. I also liked the Supergoop moose. So that's a bummer. I bought the Supergoop. I had the play, which is their sport line. I had the play moose. So I bought the play lotion instead. And I do like the lotion. I like a lotion better than a spray because I feel like a spray, you're not really getting the coverage that you actually need. Most people don't put on enough spray. Also, aerosols are bad. So I do prefer a lotion. But Elise, do you have specific beach strategies?
Elise Hu (26:47):
Well, one of them is just to cover up more. So I have the kids in rash guards when they're not in the water. Actually, they often wear rash guards in the water too. And I would echo what you're saying about spray, which is that it often doesn't get on the kids. It often just goes out into the environment. Though the kids like it and in a pinch, if that's the only sunscreen that they're going to put on their bodies, fine. But the other sunscreen that we've been using a lot of is Trader Joe's. I think they have this giant lotion that's in an orange tube. Do you know which one I'm talking about? Rob got it not too long ago and we've been using it as one of our backup sunscreens that we keep in the car and the kids like it. So that's a sunscreen lotion that they like.
(27:38):
For the beach specific question though, I would just say cover up more. Make sure you have rash guards and coverups that the kids like to wear and that they think are cute. I will always splurge on more cover up clothing because they just get so much sun just from being on the surface of a bright surface like sand. It just reflects back up on
Doree Shafrir (28:02):
Them
Elise Hu (28:02):
In a way that can be really damaging and punishing in a short amount of time.
Doree Shafrir (28:08):
I actually just went to the beach last weekend with Henry and he does wear a long sleeve rash guard. It is tough because they do get kind of covered in sand. So for that reason, we applied the sunscreen before we left the house because I find that even if you put it on right away, right when you get to the beach, it's still sandy and sticky. So we did a full... And also they want to get in the water right away and it just becomes harder. So we did full sunscreen before we left the house. I also have a swim hat for him now. So he was wearing that most of the time. I think it's a little small because he's such a big head. But yeah, he was wearing the hat. And then I did reapply the sunscreen on his face kind of halfway through our day.
(29:08):
It was harder on his legs because like you said, they were just sort of covered in sand, but I tried to just wipe them off and put a little bit of sunscreen on. I do find that the tops of the feet often get burned and that's an area that I try to -
Elise Hu (29:24):
And the tops
Doree Shafrir (29:24):
Of the ears? Yeah. So we have a roll-on mineral sunscreen from Coppertone that I really like. It's like their kids' mineral sunscreen and I like the roll on. So we'll link to that in the show notes. It's a little less messy than a lotion.
Elise Hu (29:47):
Yeah. We ride hard for a roller also.
Doree Shafrir (29:49):
It's
Elise Hu (29:50):
The baby bum roller that -
Doree Shafrir (29:52):
Yeah, Sunbelt's a good one too. I don't make babies
Elise Hu (29:54):
Anymore, but they all use the roller on their faces.
Doree Shafrir (29:58):
Yeah. And Okay. I hope that is helpful. I agree, Lisa, I agree with Elise's sentiment to cover up more. I'm a big fan of covering up at the beach. All right, we're going to take another short break and when we come back, we have some swimsuit suggestions responding to a listener who asked for some recently and a note on Crocs.
Elise Hu (30:22):
All right.
Doree Shafrir (30:23):
So we will be right back. All right, we are back as promised with some swimsuit suggestions. Elise, do you want to take this first one?
Elise Hu (30:38):
Yes. So this is in response. A lot of these are in response to a question from a listener about just finding a good swimsuit for the summer. This listener writes, "Last summer I went on a quest to find cute high neck swimsuits because no matter how much sunscreen I apply, that sensitive skin on my chest always burns. Andy makes the cutest swim available in long torso too." And they have this really cute one piece called the Malibu with snaps to go from full chest coverage or V-neck. I love it. And this is Andy Swim she's talking about and we will link you to the Malibu ribbed black long torso swimsuit that this was her
Doree Shafrir (31:15):
Time. Elise, weren't you just talking about Andy for something else or was it also swim?
Elise Hu (31:20):
I was not. This came up. I mean, I think you brought up Andy.
Doree Shafrir (31:25):
Oh no, it wasn't Andy. It was Aerie.
Elise Hu (31:27):
Oh, Aerie. Yeah, I have an Aerie swimsuit. I love my Aerie suit.
Doree Shafrir (31:30):
Yes, yes, yes. Okay. And then we actually got a couple of voicemails about swimsuits.
Listener Voicemail (31:38):
Hi, my name's Emily. I'm calling in about the recent You Ask We answer regarding women's swimsuits just because hilariously, I own four swimsuits right now. One is J Crew, one is Bodin, one is Land Inn, and one is Somersault, which are the four brands brand that you two talked about. And I though I would quickly call in and say Bowden had the prettiest pattern, but I find it to be the least well fitted for my body type, which is a fairly average size eight small of multiple kids body type. But the patterns are the prettiest. So I would wear that if you think that it's going to be a looking at day. The J Crew and the Somersault are very comparable. They're both fairly well-made, but the underpinnings just do not compare to Lands Inn, which for my purposes as an active swimsuit, chasing around kids far and away the winner.
(32:38):
The underpinning structure, the built-in bra support on the Lands Inn is 10 times the quality of the other three. The patterns are boring to non-existent. Mine is a plain solid, but what you need is a whereabout active swimsuit. Lands Inn is six feet above the rest. Significantly the best choice. They're all good though. I like all four of the suits, but they're very different purposes. Thanks you guys for such a great episode. Have a nice
Doree Shafrir (33:10):
Day. I have heard really good things about LandEnd.
Elise Hu (33:13):
And all of that was just really helpful. That was a really good
Doree Shafrir (33:16):
Rundown
Elise Hu (33:16):
Of everything.
Doree Shafrir (33:17):
Totally. All right, we actually got a second voicemail about bathing suits.
Listener Voicemail (33:26):
Hey, this is Emily from Nashville calling in response to your latest episode looking for swimsuits and chunky sandal racks. Boy, do I have racks for you? I'll start with the easiest chunky sandal. Dorell sandals. I have probably four or five pairs. Beautiful, chunky, trendy, colorful, so comfortable. I know that they're known more for their winter year. Don't sleep on the summer sandals. Love them so much. All right, bathing suits. Let's see. I recently bought several cute two pieces from Dick's Sporting Goods of all places. Check out the Calia Line, which is the Terry Underwood line. Very cute, super affordable. They also have afordable sun shirts. For one pieces, I actually have a couple that are not terrible from Costco of all places. You do have to look through this aisle because some of them are definitely like Grumpy Mom, but I have two that are quite cute and they were 15 bucks.
(34:47):
I do also like somersault as well. Those are a bit more expensive.
(34:52):
My final rack is Athleta. Love my Athleta bathing suits. They're definitely a bit more 40. They have great rash guards. I have the propped rash guard and I also have a long sleeve all in one bathing suit rash guard, which is great. Love them all.
Elise Hu (35:14):
Dang, this Dick's Sporting Good Calia line, 14.50 on sale right now.
Doree Shafrir (35:20):
Wow. Okay.
Elise Hu (35:21):
From $58 for a top. Wow.
Doree Shafrir (35:24):
And I'm not sure
Elise Hu (35:25):
How much for the bom, but yes. Hello, 14.50.
Doree Shafrir (35:28):
Hello.
Elise Hu (35:29):
Yeah.
Doree Shafrir (35:29):
Yeah, that's great. That's a great price. Thanks for the heads up. Okay. We also got a text from someone with a UPF clothing recommendation.
Elise Hu (35:44):
Love that.
Doree Shafrir (35:46):
They said this is really pretty UPF clothing. And they sent some photos. It looked like they saw it at a store. It's called Ivy Coast. And the clothes they sent a photo of are really pretty. I checked them out online. They're pricey. So it does sort of seem like a thing where unfortunately for the stylish UPF clothing, you have to - You have
Elise Hu (36:12):
To pay.
Doree Shafrir (36:13):
You have to pay, which I guess is what it is. So thank you for this recommendation. I'm going to keep an eye on it and maybe see if I can find some secondhand or find some on sale. Yeah.
Elise Hu (36:30):
Nice.
Doree Shafrir (36:31):
We'll see. All right. And then we got one last voicemail.
Listener Voicemail (36:36):
Hi guys. Long time, long time. I've written, I've called, you guys know me, but I did have my first pause the pod moment today with the listener looking for coffee sandals. I co-sign Oasis's recommendation for the Crocs. There's also one called the Soho Y Sandal, and those are like walking on a cloud. I was influenced by my neighbor. They come in really cute colors for those. Reef also has really cute platform sandals that are also sort of in the vein of some of the styles that Croc has. And at the point I am in my life, I'm not as old as the caller or the listener who is asking, but two pregnancies, hot Midwest summers, I'm going for comfort when I have a four and a half and a two-year-old that I'm chasing. So go with a platform Birkenstock situation and you'll be really cute and comfortable.
Elise Hu (37:45):
Thank
Doree Shafrir (37:46):
You.
Elise Hu (37:47):
I forgot to mention reef. I really like Reef sandals. They're very comfy.
Doree Shafrir (37:52):
Okay. Wow. These are all such hot tips. All right. Well, thanks everyone for all of your recommendations and your questions. This is when we get into the intention zone. I know. We have always said we need some sort of fun sound effect.
Elise Hu (38:14):
Yes. Sammy, go for it. Hit it.
Doree Shafrir (38:20):
Did you do any reflective writing or journaling last week?
Elise Hu (38:23):
Oh boy, did I? Because I have discovered a new dictation software.
Doree Shafrir (38:30):
Oh, cool. In which I
Elise Hu (38:32):
Just press a button and I talk and it does all my journaling for
Doree Shafrir (38:36):
Me. Oh my gosh.
Elise Hu (38:37):
So I'm just like, I think I could write another book now. I'm on cloud nine about this.
Doree Shafrir (38:43):
What is the app?
Elise Hu (38:45):
It's called WhisperFlow or something. I just downloaded it. It definitely uses some AI to make sure that when you are at the end of the sentence, it ends the sentence and you don't have to actually dictate the punctuation. And it's very good. When I make references to things in culture, they understand that it's some cultural reference or websites, things like that, but it's been awesome. So now I feel like I've been writing a lot more, but I'm writing by talking, so that kind of solved it. Cool. What about you? You were planning day trips, is that right?
Doree Shafrir (39:23):
Yes. So actually the trip we took to the beach on Sunday, I am putting into the day trip category even though
(39:34):
Was not that far because I proactively reached out to a friend, asked if she and her son wanted to join us at the beach. We made plans, we got to the beach. I got Henry a new boogie board because she had mentioned that her son had a boogie board and Henry had boogie boarded once at a friend's birthday party and he really liked it, but we just never got him a boogie board. I was like, okay, getting him a boogie board. I got a new beach chair. I was like, we are good to go.
Elise Hu (40:03):
You're
Doree Shafrir (40:03):
Doing it. And Henry had the best time. Yay. I've been friends with this mom since our kids were babies, but the kids have never been super close until very recently.
Elise Hu (40:16):
Oh, that's
Doree Shafrir (40:17):
Great. And they had the best time. It was really sweet. They had very similar beach goals. Goals.
Elise Hu (40:27):
OKRs.
Doree Shafrir (40:28):
Yeah. They wanted to do the same things, which included chasing birds and building large piles of sand and boogie boarding.
(40:41):
Yeah, they just had a great time. We were there for five hours and Henry could have stayed another five hours, but I was like, "I think I got to go. " I was getting tired. But yeah, it was great. But I do definitely want to plan some more stuff coming up because it was super fun. Yeah, so that's what I have going on. That's what I had going on last week.
Elise Hu (41:11):
And then what do you
Doree Shafrir (41:11):
Intend? And then for this week, I feel like I've gotten into a good writing groove, so I want to continue that.
Elise Hu (41:21):
Awesome.
Doree Shafrir (41:21):
Awesome. What about you? What are you going to do this week?
Elise Hu (41:25):
Well, I don't know when this happened, but Fitbit was taken over by Google. And so now Fitbit, all my Fitbit data is just been sucked in by Google and now it's called Google Health and the interface is completely different and it's showing me metrics in a different way. And one of the things that it measures is cardio health or something or the amount of cardio I've done to
(41:50):
I can't remember. It's a ring that I have to complete each week. So let's see, it's called weekly cardio. And for every unit of cardio that you do during the week, it shows you what percentage of your weekly cardio you have achieved. So far this week I've only achieved 10% of my weekly cardio that I need. And it's not by time necessarily, it's by your heart rate and how long your heart rate is in a sustained cardio optimal state. And so I still have to achieve my weekly cardio. So I guess my intention is going to be to try to achieve my mystifying weekly cardio goal that I don't know how it's calculated, but it would be
Doree Shafrir (42:36):
Nice to complete the circle. I feel like cardio got a bad rap for a while. People were talking about strength and I do think strength is very important, especially for us perimenopausal ladies. But I think cardio is also important. Let's not forget about cardio.
Elise Hu (42:56):
Cardio load measures your heart's exertion based on the intensity and duration of your physical activity. So I need to have more intensity and duration. Okay. But yeah, I took an hour long trampoline class yesterday of trampolining and Pilates reformer together and it only was an 11 cardio load, so it only gave me 10%. So I have to do a lot more exertion. Yeah. That was just
Doree Shafrir (43:22):
Surprising.
Elise Hu (43:23):
My average heart rate zone never got into high enough, I guess. Yeah. Yeah.
Doree Shafrir (43:29):
All right.
Elise Hu (43:31):
I will intend to try and meet this, but it could end up - Yes,
Doree Shafrir (43:34):
Please let us know.
Elise Hu (43:35):
Being a lot.
Doree Shafrir (43:36):
All right. Well, thanks everyone for listening. Forever 35 is hosted and produced by me, Doree Shafrir and Elise Hu, and produced and edited by Samee Junio. Sami Reed is our project manager and our network partner is Acast. Thanks everybody.
Elise Hu (43:49):
And Abe, wherever you are, come home.
Doree Shafrir (43:51):
Come home, Abe.