You Ask, We Answer: The One With The Callbacks
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Doree Shafrir (00:12):
Hello, and welcome to Forever 35, a podcast about the things we do to take care of ourselves. I'm Doree Shafrir.
Elise Hu (00:19):
And I'm Elise Hu, and we're just two friends who like to talk a lot about serums.
Doree Shafrir (00:23):
And this is a You Ask We Answer episode where we respond to your questions, comments, feedback, concerns, insights, observations.
Elise Hu (00:34):
But we should remind folks that we are not medical doctors.
Doree Shafrir (00:38):
We are not. We're not experts. I mean, we're experts in some things, but definitely not mental health or physical health experts. So we do encourage you to seek support from someone with actual expertise in those areas. We're not like a do your own research kind of vibe over here.
Elise Hu (01:00):
Right.
Doree Shafrir (01:00):
There's so many caveats because there's so many ways that things are going in the larger discourse, if you will.
Elise Hu (01:07):
Right. Yes, yes.
(01:09):
I hope everybody's having a good summer. We are now fully in summer. All the folks that were still in school have finished and all the folks who are returning to school in early August have not quite returned just yet.
Doree Shafrir (01:25):
Yeah, I was going to say, I realize our kids go back in less than a month.
Elise Hu (01:29):
It's wild.
Doree Shafrir (01:30):
Which is wild.
Elise Hu (01:32):
But my summer has felt long already.
Doree Shafrir (01:35):
Fair. That is fair.
Elise Hu (01:38):
This is a time for just leisure and catching up though for me this mid-July season, so I'm really glad. And you just got back from vacay. Highlights, low lights, what do you want to share?
Doree Shafrir (01:51):
Well, as we discussed on the casual chat, I wouldn't totally refer to it as vacay. It was vacay in the sense that you and I weren't recording, so it was like a work vacay, although I did write my slate column, but it wasn't a relaxing sit on the beach and have a pina colada kind of trip. It was more of a trip.
Elise Hu (02:13):
Yeah. Yeah.
Doree Shafrir (02:16):
Which is not to say it wasn't fun and great, but I was ready to get back to my real life by the end. We went to Boston. Well, first we went to Connecticut to see my brother, which was great. Great to see him. Then we took the train to Boston and Henry had never ridden Amtrak before.
Elise Hu (02:38):
Oh, fun.
Doree Shafrir (02:39):
So that was fun. And I much prefer taking a train to sitting in traffic, so that was nice. And then we were in Boston for a little over a week, and that was great. It was just a nice trip. We got to spend a lot of good time with my parents. We saw some friends. We saw the tall ships. And yeah, it was a good trip.
Elise Hu (03:11):
Tell me what you did for food because A, I'm very food motivated like my dog, but two, when we're all here as a family together, my mom really loves cooking for everybody. So did one of your parents prepare meals? Did you guys eat out a lot?
Doree Shafrir (03:29):
Yeah, my mom cooked for us almost every night. That's nice of her.t was very thoughtful and she had clearly put a lot of thought into planning menus and thinking about what we would like. And that was really, really sweet and nice to sit down to a dinner. I try to cook, but a lot of times I'm just tired and don't feel like making a whole dinner. You know what I mean? I'll be like, I'm going to heat up some chicken nuggets for Henry. That's kind of the extent. So that was nice to just sit down as a family and have meals.
Elise Hu (04:08):
I was saying something similar because, but for my parents being here, I don't feel like we have a good routine of all sitting down together as a family because especially during the school year, everybody's going in a million different places and right during mealtime. Volleyball practice is between six and eight, dance is between four to seven. And so it's really hard for all of us to get together. And that's been something I'm very grateful for during the summer and also something I want to be a little bit more intentional about. Something that Sammy and I talked about during our casual chat while you were away was that there's this worksheet that Daniel Pink, who is the author of that book on motivation, which is called Drive, put out in his newsletter. And it's basically just a sheet that's divided in half and on the left side it's stuff I want to do less of, and on the right side is stuff I want to do more of.
(05:06):
And
Doree Shafrir (05:06):
Just to do that - Wait, I love that.
Elise Hu (05:08):
Yeah. Just an exercise of less of, more of and see how we can measure ourselves in the direction of more of and less of. It's just that simple. But I really liked it and I was like, so I'm doing all the things I want to do more of this summer, like read novels. So I'm reading a ton of novels and I'm at a pretty fast clip because I'm just inhaling them. I love them and I'm really getting into the worlds. And then I want to spend more time sunbathing by the pool. So I've just aggressively been doing that. All my freckles are out. They're like -
Doree Shafrir (05:43):
Whose pool is this?
Elise Hu (05:44):
A lot of my friends actually are homeowners as part of this thing called the runway, which is a very earth sats development near me. There's a hater on TikTok and Instagram who calls himself a professional hater and he goes around Los Angeles and hates on the neighborhoods.
Doree Shafrir (06:00):
What?
Elise Hu (06:00):
And so yes, he's like, "I'm a professional hater. Today I'm hating on Calabasas." And he makes fun of Calabasas. Or he'll do like, "I'm a professional hater in Burbank, in Silver Lake, in wherever else." That's so
Doree Shafrir (06:14):
Weird.
Elise Hu (06:16):
When he goes to. Oh, it's hilarious. It's awesome. So the one when he goes to this neighborhood, he's like, "And they have a development with streets like..." And that's kind of where it is. And it's so nice and it's called The Resort because it's designed like a resort situation. It has this open air gym upstairs too. We'll just go and hang out there because it's really nice.
Doree Shafrir (06:49):
That's awesome.
Elise Hu (06:50):
You don't have to be at a hotel or something or get resort pass.
Doree Shafrir (06:53):
Totally.
Elise Hu (06:56):
Yeah, so that's been happening. So now that you're back, what do you want the rest of your summer to be about?
Doree Shafrir (07:04):
The rest of my summer, well, I didn't get to play tennis while I was away, so obviously tennis. Getting back on
Elise Hu (07:13):
That horse.
Doree Shafrir (07:13):
Getting back on the tennis horse, but also working on my book. Also trying to get a little bit out of the rut that I feel like I've been in for a year.
Elise Hu (07:28):
Oh, the last, I don't know, 300
Doree Shafrir (07:32):
Millennium.
Elise Hu (07:34):
65 days or so.
Doree Shafrir (07:37):
So I think recognizing it is a good first step and now I'm going to try to figure out what to do about it.
Elise Hu (07:44):
Well, there's always that worksheet, do less of more updates.
Doree Shafrir (07:47):
Totally, yes.
Elise Hu (07:49):
But that sounds kind of trite. I would say as an outside observer, as your friend, I thought that you had a real sense of motivation around your closet or get the front of the house cleanup time period.
Doree Shafrir (08:06):
I did. That's true. And now one thing that I do really need to work on is Henry's playroom, which needs to sort of transition into a room for a school aged child. Oh
Elise Hu (08:22):
Yeah, where
Doree Shafrir (08:23):
He's going to do
Elise Hu (08:23):
His homework. Where
Doree Shafrir (08:24):
He is going to do his homework. There's a table that he sits at to do some of the stuff for the math class that he does on weekends, but he's definitely way too big for it. And at his new school, he hasn't had homework for the past two years at his old school because they had a no homework policy, but at his new school, he's going to have homework. So we have to get him a desk. We have to clear out. I mean, I opened the closet in that room recently and I was like, "Oh, this is full of toys that he hasn't played with in four years." You know what I mean? There's still a play kitchen in there. He doesn't play with a play kitchen. It's just storage. So that room needs a total overhaul. Overhaul. Yeah, rehaul, overhaul. And frankly, his bedroom kind of does too, but that's a project that I don't have to - You don't want to take on yet.
(09:20):
I don't want to take on right now, and that will require purchasing new furniture that I can't afford right now. Whereas I think the playroom, I really just need a desk and I found one at Ikea that I think will be fine and it's less than $100, I think. And he just needs a chair. So the new purchases for the playroom are not as extensive as I think what he will need in the bedroom, but that does need to start happening. So yes, that would kind of get me, I think, a little bit more motivated. But yeah, I'm seeing my. I love my primary care physician. She's amazing, but her front office is not the best. You know how most of your doctors and your dentist, when you leave your appointment, they're like, "Okay, let's book you for next year."
Elise Hu (10:08):
Yes, yes. Just did
Doree Shafrir (10:09):
That yesterday
Elise Hu (10:10):
With my dentist.
Doree Shafrir (10:10):
Right. And you're like, "Great, set it and forget it." Her office doesn't do that. They're like, "Call us in six months." Okay, well, I don't remember to call in six months. So by the time I remember to call, they're like, "Her next opening is three months from now." You know what I mean? It's so annoying. Yeah. I'm like, "Can't you just..." Whatever. I don't even want to ask why you can't do this. But anyway, I made an appointment with her two months ago and it's in August, which is now kind of soon. So going to go see her, see what she says, hopefully figure some shit out and I'll report back.
Elise Hu (10:50):
Okay, fantastic.
Doree Shafrir (10:51):
In the meantime, I'll start cleaning out Henry's playroom.
Elise Hu (10:53):
Yeah, I don't know. I felt like just observationally, you
Doree Shafrir (10:56):
Seem
Elise Hu (10:57):
Just really on top of that and excited about it.
Doree Shafrir (11:00):
Yeah, I love those outside perspectives. Very helpful. Elise, we did get a couple of messages that I want to play/read before we take a break.
Elise Hu (11:13):
Yay. Okay, great.
Listener Voicemail (11:15):
Hey guys, I'm just calling to say I love that I noticed that on the episodes where you read out all of the deluxe members of Forever 35 Patreon, that now there's a ton of NPR lead correspondence being listed there. How fun is that? So I think it's a product of our new hosts. So it's just a fun little indicator that the Forever 35 circle is growing and it's fun to see these powerhouse women that I'm used to hearing their names on my NPR daily broadcast now being listed as podcast listeners for Forever 35. So let the family continue to grow. Thanks for everything you do. Bye.
Doree Shafrir (12:05):
Love that. Love that for
Elise Hu (12:07):
Us. And welcome in to all the new Patreon subscribers.
Doree Shafrir (12:09):
Yes.
Elise Hu (12:10):
The water is warm. Indeed. We have so much bonus content on the Patreon.
Doree Shafrir (12:14):
Indeed. Thank you, listener. And then we got a text that said, "OMG, Elise, I also have the Croc chunky sandals and love them. I also am not a Croc person and heard about them from my sister who sang their praises."
Elise Hu (12:28):
They're awesome. Yeah, they're awesome. I told you they've taken me and carried me through entire day long or weekend long festivals.
Doree Shafrir (12:37):
Love that.
Elise Hu (12:38):
No problem. Yep.
Doree Shafrir (12:39):
That's amazing. All right, we are going to take a short break, but before we do that, just a reminder, if you want to reach us, you can call or text us at 781-591-0390. Email us at forever35podcast@gmail.com. Our website is forever35podcast.com. We have links there to everything we mention on the show. You can also shop our favorite links at shopmy.us/forever35. That's our shop my shelf. And you can follow us on Instagram @forever35podcast. And our Patreon that we just mentioned is patreon.com/forever35. We have a lot of fun bonus content on there, including our casual chats, which are now on video that we do weekly. And then we also do live casual chats about once a quarter where we take your questions as we're recording, and those are just super fun and intimate and great. Some of my favorite episodes, actually. We also have a community chat going on there, and at $10 a month, you get ad-free episodes and the aforementioned shout-out on the podcast once a month.
(13:51):
So with that said, we are going to take a short break, and when we come back, we have some responses to the listener who was asking for advice about food noise, and then also some advice about breast reduction surgery, which was another question that someone had
Elise Hu (14:09):
For the group
Doree Shafrir (14:10):
Called or written in about. I don't remember which. So we'll be right back. Stay with us.
Elise Hu (14:14):
Okay, we'll be right back.
Doree Shafrir (14:23):
All right, we are back. Before we get to the food noise, we do have another voicemail that I wanted to share that was interesting to me because I just came from Boston and this person is talking about something that is happening in Boston. Okay, here we go.
Listener Voicemail (14:40):
Hey guys, I am in Massachusetts presently and a healthcare worker in the helping profession, and I have been following the Brigham and Women's Nurses Strike in Massachusetts, which is the largest nurses strike in our history in Massachusetts, and it's definitely speaking to a greater issue in healthcare in the sense that the administration is getting paid a lot of money, and the people doing actual patient care are not getting the same benefits, like wages that are commiserate with the increased cost of living and just safe staffing ratios and all that good stuff. Anyways, my question that I thought maybe we would explore or might not be appropriate for the pod is I really just don't understand why administration gets these giant salaries and the people who are on the ground doing the work, like the nurses and the therapists and the LNAs and everyone else gets paid peanuts.
(15:46):
We do a lot of really hard work. We have a lot of really hard conversations and support families, and it's an insane job to have. So does anyone in the community or do you guys have any insight as to why this is other than the patriarchy and capitalism? I would really love for someone to explain it to me like in five, because I really just don't get it and don't get why our work isn't valued, and it's very frustrating to me. I love you guys. I love the pod and love that you have a very diverse area of topics that you discuss. But yeah, I was just curious. All right, thanks. Bye.
Elise Hu (16:28):
I don't know enough about this. I feel like there's a huge gap between how CEOs are paid and how regular workers are paid in all American companies or companies that are headquartered in America in a way that's vastly different than European countries even. And so if you all out there can kind of explain the gap between hospital administration and the frontline staff, then yes, I'd love to hear more about it. I know that Dr. Jen, who's a good friend of mine and was a Kaiser doctor, Kaiser doctors get paid a little bit better. Kaiser doctors and nurses get paid a little bit better because of the way that Kaiser shares ownership. Those are partnerships. So it's a little bit more collective from what I understand, but would love to hear more about how all of this works. My father, longtime hospital pharmacist, and pharmacists are paid pretty well, I guess, but not administrators.
Doree Shafrir (17:26):
Yeah, I mean, I was just going to say capitalism. I mean, isn't this the case in every industry pretty much, unfortunately?
Elise Hu (17:37):
The price for labor. Yeah.
Doree Shafrir (17:39):
Yeah. Yeah. But thank you for this. And yeah, my parents live pretty close to the hospital, so we saw the nurses on strike and yeah, it's a big deal. Okay, moving on to Food Noise. We got this text that said, "Hi, Doree and Elise. In response to the listener who's struggling with food noise, I struggled this for so long until I found what worked for me. For me, the solution was joining Overeaters Anonymous. OA truly gave me my life back and it's an extremely welcoming environment and allows members to find their own plan of eating. For me, that looks like three meals a day with no snacks in between and no second helpings. If I had tried this just as a diet, it wouldn't have worked. But after joining OA, this way of eating allows me freedom from food obsession, and I can actually live my life and think about things other than food for four to five hours between meals.
(18:36):
Hasn't been easy, but it has been totally worth it, and I hope this listener can find the same piece."
Elise Hu (18:42):
Okay, good suggestion.
Doree Shafrir (18:44):
Thank you for your text about this. I feel like people forget about OverEaters Anonymous, but it has been super helpful for so many people, so thank you. Well, just
Elise Hu (18:55):
The 12-step programs generally.
Doree Shafrir (18:57):
Totally.
Elise Hu (18:58):
AA, NA, Al-Anon.
Doree Shafrir (19:01):
Yeah.
Elise Hu (19:02):
Yeah. The fact that they're so community-centered and self-organized, and it really works for a lot of folks, millions of folks. So thanks for the suggestion.
Doree Shafrir (19:12):
Okay. And now we have an email about breast reduction surgery. Elise, do you want to take this one?
Elise Hu (19:18):
Hey, y'all. I'm a little late listening to this episode, but had to pause the pod to respond to the listener inquiring about breast reduction recovery, and maybe it will be helpful for others too. I had a breast reduction six months ago. I'd also been wanting one for years and went from an I to a DD. Here are the things that really helped in some responses to comments made during the show. One, yes, definitely look at pictures for ideas, but know that your doctor cannot guarantee a size and shouldn't. Many things affect the size they can achieve, the technique used, the density of your breasts, if you care about losing feeling in your nipples, or even if you care about keeping your nipples. I had hoped to go down to a C or D, but my surgeon could not safely do that without a strong possibility of losing my nipples.
(20:02):
Two, breast reduction surgery includes a lift. This might not have been the case in the past, but it is now. Three, when you are first out of surgery, you are either going to panic because they look too small or big. Nearly everyone I've talked to has had this reaction. I was so upset initially, but they will change so much over weeks and months. While I still wish mine were a little smaller, I absolutely love them and it's such a huge difference. Four, a recliner is super helpful, but if that's not possible, get a good wedge pillow and a pregnancy U-shaped pillow. And while not necessary, a mastectomy pillow is nice to have to protect you from pets jumping on you. Five, medical grade silicone for scar treatment is the best. You don't need anything crazy expensive. Palmer's oil is nice too, especially if your surgeon recommends scar massage.
(20:50):
Six, it's expensive, but I truly believe Juven powder helped my healing. My doctor's office had coupons for it. Seven, one piece of advice I received that I never would've thought of was to put items that you frequently use on the counter so you have easy access as you will not be able to reach up to get things out of cabinets. Here are links to some of my favorite recovery items and those links we will put in our show notes for listeners. And the last message is just that sorry that was long and love y'all in the pod. This is awesome.
Doree Shafrir (21:22):
This is so helpful. Thank you so much. Yeah, because I have
Elise Hu (21:25):
To get breast surgery sometime once I do decide to do it, so a lot of these recovery
Doree Shafrir (21:30):
Tips
Elise Hu (21:31):
Probably work for me too.
Doree Shafrir (21:33):
You got to bookmark these.
Elise Hu (21:35):
Yeah.
Doree Shafrir (21:37):
Okay. We are going to take another short break and when we come back, we have some sunscreen recommendations and tips and tricks.
Elise Hu (21:47):
Okay.
Doree Shafrir (21:47):
And a question, a sunscreen question, so we'll be right back. Okay, we are back. So I feel like we've gotten similar tips like this before, but someone said, "Responding to sunscreen application comments at the beach, we bring along a small jar of cornstarch. If you sprinkle some cornstarch on damp skin, it dries out the skin enough so that you can brush off the sand and actually reapply the sunscreen. We also try to do rash guards and cover up."
Elise Hu (22:25):
Yes. So this is sort of like it must work in the same way that baby
Doree Shafrir (22:30):
Powder works. Yes, that baby powder does.
Elise Hu (22:31):
Yeah. Okay. I haven't thought to even do this, so I will. I just sort of let my kids be sandy, but then the sand gets all over my car and then subsequently my house,
Doree Shafrir (22:45):
So
Elise Hu (22:45):
I need to pre-plan a little better.
Doree Shafrir (22:49):
Okay. So do you remember we got an email from a listener who said that they wet their UPF layers before they put them on?
Elise Hu (23:01):
Yeah. Yeah. And you
Doree Shafrir (23:02):
Were like, "Why would
Elise Hu (23:03):
I sit in wet clothes?"
Doree Shafrir (23:04):
Yes, I was so confused, and that listener actually followed up.
Elise Hu (23:08):
Oh, okay, great.
Doree Shafrir (23:09):
And said, "You wondered about whether we wet our shirts before getting in the car and driving to the beach. We don't do that because we live in Colorado and are so landlocked. We are typically getting our shirts wet with a hose or a dunk in a bucket, then playing outside in our yard or a local splash pad or going on a hike. Either way, we definitely would not get in the car with our wet shirts on."
Elise Hu (23:32):
Okay. Okay.
Doree Shafrir (23:33):
"I imagine if we were to find ourselves at a beach, we'd either wet our shirts at one of the rinse stations or just dunk our shirts in the surf before putting them on. Our neighbor's AC went out this week, so my husband told her family to wear wet long sleeve shirts while they wait for their AC to be repaired/replaced." Her response later in the day was, "The wet shirt saves the day."
Elise Hu (23:53):
Yeah, because it keeps you freezing cold.
Doree Shafrir (23:56):
Yeah. It's great. Totally. Totally.
Elise Hu (23:59):
Okay, good.
Doree Shafrir (24:01):
Thank you for clarifying, Julia. I was like, "How does this work?"
Elise Hu (24:05):
Yes, yes. Doree was curious for
Doree Shafrir (24:08):
Sure. Okay. And then we got a question about sunscreen.
Listener Voicemail (24:13):
Hi, Doree and Elise. I have a question about sunscreen, which seems crazy because I'm sure you've covered sunscreen in a million different ways, but I'm looking for. I recently really teared back my skincare. I'm just using Eucerin because a lot of stuff is irritating me. And so first of all, I'm obsessed with the Eucerin skin balance line, their daycream and night cream, both excellent. But I'd like a sunscreen that is just a sunscreen. I don't want it to have anything else in it. I don't want it to have any skincare. I just want it to be a face sunscreen, and I am having a hard time finding that. I just got the La Roche Jose Anthelios light fluid sunscreen and I really liked it. And now it's just pilling on my skin and there's just all these white flakes. Ugh, it's horrible. Yeah, just curious if you have any recs for.
(25:07):
It doesn't need to be formulated for sensitive skin, but something that is just a sunscreen that will fit on my kind of thick skincare routine and won't pill. All right, love the pod. Bye.
Doree Shafrir (25:22):
I mean, I'm going to just recommend my favorite that I recommend all the time, which is the Hero Cosmetics Force Shield Super Light Sunscreen. It's minerals, so it is good for sensitive skin. It's SPF 30, which I think some people feel like is not high enough, but I feel like is fine. And you're supposed to be reapplying your sunscreen anyway, so I think SPF 30 is most likely more than fine for your purposes. I have not found it to pill. It's not super cheap. It's $20 for a 50 milliliter bottle, and I go through those, go through them pretty quickly, so it's not a bargain, but I really like the sunscreen. This is my ride or die. I don't see it mentioned that much, and I'm like, "Why are people sleeping on this sunscreen? It's my favorite."
Elise Hu (26:26):
I'm going to recommend two Korean sunscreens, one that I carry in my purse, and it is just sunscreen, and you can get it at Sephora. It's from Innisfree, which is one of the OG Korean brands, and it's just called Innisfree Daily UV Defense Sunscreen Lotion, broad spectrum, SPF 50. It does not sting. My problem with the La Roche Pose is that it stings when it comes off my face in the shower. This is great. It comes in a 100 milliliter tube for $32. It'll last a while, but the top selling sunscreen in Korea right now, and it's available at Olive Young, which is the big drug store/Sephora combo brand that opened a US location in California recently, is this brand called Dalba. It's like D-apostrophe Alba, and they sell one of the Dalba brands or one of the sunscreens at Ulta, I think, but that might have a little bit of pink correcting in it, or it has yellow correcting.
(27:34):
It has different other skincare ingredients in it. So if you just want sunscreen lotion that's just sunscreen, I really like the Innisfree daily UV, and Doree really loves the Hero Cosmetics one, her ride or die. Hopefully those help.
Doree Shafrir (27:51):
Okay, we have another voicemail.
Listener Voicemail (27:53):
Hi, Doree and Elise. For the caller who uses the Ilia Super Serum Skin Tint, Ilia makes a setting powder. It's called Fade Into You Soft Focus Finishing Powder. So that will take that slight dewiness away, and it kind of sets the makeup. I hear what that caller was saying, and I feel the same thing, so I usually use that setting powder with it. So yeah, Ilia's got you covered. Bye.
Elise Hu (28:22):
We have a text in response to that also that says, "I really liked the Sey powder. I think it comes in specific colors, but I've just used the translucent one and find it takes the shine off quite well." I am in the market for a new translucent powder, just because I don't use powder very often. I haven't gotten one in years, but I do have that problem sometimes when I put on a tinted moisturizer or a BB cushion or a CC cushion, it is a little too dewy, too moist looking. Sorry, I know some people don't like that word.
Doree Shafrir (28:59):
The Ilia Sun Serum one, it looks a little too dewy when it goes on, but I feel like my skin has been so dry lately that it just sort of absorbs it pretty quickly and I don't think it looks greasy afterwards, but your mileage may vary, obviously. Okay. All right. Well, thank you everyone so much for all of your calls and texts, et cetera. We are going to go into the intention zone. Elise, have you started your summer cleaning?
Elise Hu (29:35):
I took four big bags. They were really more like shopping bags, like grocery bags, paper bags of clothing to Goodwill. And then I am now doing a bunch of sports equipment, kid tennis rackets and basketballs and things like that that we don't really need. So I am doing it. I would like to be doing it all in one day or something, but since this is my summer of ease and I'd rather book large chunks of time for laying around by the pool and reading. I haven't done a big long clean out, but I've been progressively working on it. And then this week, going on vacay, going to
Doree Shafrir (30:16):
Take a
Elise Hu (30:17):
Real adult vacation that we can call vacation instead of a trip because the girls are going to be at sleepaway camp. So Rob and I are just going to do a trip by ourselves, which we're really excited about and we'll update on when we get back.
Doree Shafrir (30:32):
Amazing. Well, last week I was getting a haircut.
Elise Hu (30:37):
Yes, for your -
Doree Shafrir (30:39):
For my summer. Yeah, to get out of the blahs. Haircut helps, not going to lie. So love that. And this week I'm going to start the playroom clean out. I'm putting it out there so that I actually do it.
Elise Hu (30:56):
Okay.
Doree Shafrir (30:57):
You heard it here first.
Elise Hu (30:58):
Yes, it has been intended.
Doree Shafrir (31:01):
It has been intended. All right, thanks everybody. Forever 35 is hosted and produced by me, Doree Shafrir and Elise Hu and produced and edited by Samee Junio. Sami Reed is our project manager and our network partner is Acast. Thanks everybody.
Elise Hu (31:16):
Talk to you next time.
Doree Shafrir (31:17):
Bye.