Doree returns to Los Angeles after a trip to Disney World with exciting news – Startup: A Novel is out in paperback! To celebrate, the women discuss how they met, their writing processes, and how the Twilight fandom is connected to Kate's book. Then they speak to Shadi Petosky (owner of Puny Entertainment, creator of Danger & Eggs, and Executive Producer of Netflix's Twelve Forever) who talks about keeping a tight calendar, insisting on sleep, and how producing is a form of self-care. Plus, she gives us the goods on her amazing nails and Elton John's Oscar party.

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Our guest this week is the very funny actor and writer Mary Holland, who can be seen on shows like Veep and Blunt Talk. Mary details how sleep is her own personal form of self-care, and discusses the healing power of Sex and the City. Doree and Kate also go deep on sleep, breaking down the steps they take to wind down at night before bedtime. Plus they do another high/low product review, which includes one very expensive Tom Ford lipstick.