Mini-Ep 441: Forever45 Face
Doree shares the stress and success of Henry’s 6th birthday party with Elise before they hear from listeners about collecting art throughout their lives, a simple burnout prevention hack, and a call out for your favorite podcasts (besides this one).
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Doree (00:10):
Hello and welcome to Forever 35, a podcast about the things we do to take care of ourselves. I'm Doree Shafrir.
Elise (00:17):
And I'm Elise Hu. And we're just two friends who like to talk a lot about serums,
Doree (00:21):
And this is a mini episode where we hear from you, we share your comments and your thoughts, and we answer your questions to the best of our ability. But please remember, we are podcast hosts. We're not experts. We always encourage you to seek support first and foremost, from a medical and or mental health professional as needed.
Elise (00:38):
Well, I'm really excited because we recently announced our next theme month. So coming off of a very successful friendship month and menopause and aging month, we are doing a dedicated series just on money. On money, our relationship with money, how money affects our relationships, finances, financial planning, how to think about it when we have a bunch of exciting guests coming, and we want to hear your questions
Doree (01:11):
And you can send those to us via text or voicemail at 7 8 1 5 9 1 0 3 9 0. You can email those to us at Forever 35 podcast@gmail.com. We are also still taking all of your other questions, so please send those in as well.
Elise (01:29):
Doesn't have to be about money.
Doree (01:30):
It doesn't have to be about money. You're sort of regular questions are what keep these mini episodes going. So please do send them in. Elise, how have you been?
Elise (01:42):
Good. We haven't really caught up over the weekend yet. You had your big Henry birthday weekend, which I really want to hear about. And then I had to jet off to Scottsdale real quick to do a weekend with Rob and his boys who, his boys are based in Phoenix. So I just got back from the desert this morning and the weather there was not oppressively hot.
Doree (02:10):
Okay.
Elise (02:10):
So I had a really good time. We played tennis two days in a row. I don't think I've ever played tennis two days in a row, but that is the land of golf courses and pickleball courts and tennis courts. So it was very easy to hop on and play and that was super fun. I also saw sinners, which we can talk about on our pop culture episode that we do monthly for our Patreon, but loved sinners. It's every bit good to know as great and epic as everyone is saying.
Doree (02:43):
That's amazing.
Elise (02:43):
Yeah. So yeah, tell me about Henry and how his big birthday weekend went, how you're feeling about it.
Doree (02:49):
Henry had his birthday party over the weekend. He is six. Big birthday. Birthday,
Elise (02:57):
Yes.
Doree (02:58):
And his birthday party was a success. He had a great time. His friends seemed to have a great time. It seemed to get rave reviews from the parents the day leading up to his birthday and the day of his birthday were two very exhausting days. Just like logistically. There was a lot happening because he had a birthday party for a classmate right before his party,
(03:24):
And I had ordered his cake from our favorite bakery, which was very far from his birthday party. I should have just picked up the cake on Friday, but I didn't. I didn't. And Henry insisted on coming with me to get the cake and my dad was with us. It was just, we were like, okay, I have to get the cake. You need to go to smart and final, we need to get ice. It just was like all these, a lot of moving parts, moving parts, and we have to get Henry to this other birthday party.
(04:08):
I nearly had a full breakdown at the museum where he was having his party because they had emailed me and Oh, I said, is there a fridge where we can store a cake? And they were like, yes, you can bring that in today or tomorrow. And that was on Friday. No problem. Great. And then I get there and first of all, it takes them and I have Henry with me and he's itching to get to this other birthday party and no one is available to help me. So 10 minutes go by, Henry's like, what's happening? And then someone finally comes out and they're like, oh yeah, I don't think we have room for a cake. Oh geez. Was like, okay, well I was told there would be room for the cake. Can you please figure out another solution to find room for the cake? And they found some other fridge and put it in there, but I was like, no, no, that's not okay. We don't play that.
(05:11):
All of the stress of the previous 24 hours was just like, no, but you said there would be room for the cake. And then we made a last minute decision to order Domino's, which turned out to be a very good decision. And we ordered just, were you not going to get Domino's? We weren't going to get, it was a weird time. It was like three to five, and so it wasn't really mealtime and people, most of the people coming to his party were going to have come from another party right before party. Party, yes. Where it turned out there was a ton of food, a ton of food, but I was like, well, not everyone's coming from that party and people might be hungry. And these snacks we got are sort of like kids snacks. It was like bags of goldfish and Welch's fruit gummies and
Elise (06:11):
Apple
Doree (06:11):
Sauce pouches. And so I was like, oh, let's just order some Domino's. They'll deliver it and it'll be great. And I ordered from Domino's is one of the few places that still has their own delivery people.
Listener Voicemail (06:26):
Oh, right.
Doree (06:27):
I ordered from Domino's and a Domino's person in a Domino's car came and delivered the Domino's Pizza at 2 59. He was there, I had ordered it for three o'clock. He pulled up right on time, he handed me the pizzas, we handed him a tip and it was perfect.
Elise (06:49):
They have their patented pizza tracker, that progress bar that they have on their website. They have been kind of ahead of the game when it comes to tech advances for getting your order in on time. I remember doing a story about them 12 years ago, so that pizza tracker, they ended up getting a patent for, I don't know if it's accurate. I don't really believe that Krista put my pizza in the oven at 3 41. But I love it. I like to follow it and I like being able to see the driver and you can see his location almost like an Uber as he's coming. Obviously you were occupied with the party.
Doree (07:29):
I was occupied and we're watching the tracker
Elise (07:31):
Closely, but shout out
Doree (07:33):
To Domino's. But I was impressed and I was like, please call me when you get here and I will come out and meet you. Which I feel like when you use some of these delivery apps and you have those kinds of specific instructions, it's like hit or miss. But whether it's actually followed
Listener Voicemail (07:48):
That,
Doree (07:48):
He called me and I came right out and he pulled up as I was walking out, it was like, perfect. Thank you. Domino's Pizza. This is not sponsored. They also had a coupon. I was like, Domino's?
Elise (08:00):
Yes. Oh yeah, we're fans. We're fans here in the few household.
Doree (08:04):
They also do square cut pizza.
Elise (08:07):
Their thin crust is really good in the middle of the
Doree (08:09):
Night and we ordered pretty much the perfect amount of pizza. Great. So that was great. Henry was so happy. They had in their party room, they had this totally cheesy throne that he sat on and then it said, happy birthday Henry on this huge screen. And they had a thing. We did it at this science museum for kids and we got them to do a slime demonstration, a glow in the dark, slime demonstration.
Listener Voicemail (08:39):
Beautiful.
Doree (08:40):
The kids were super into that. And then it was over and we came home and I was ready to go to bed and I had to drive my dad to the airport at like nine.
Elise (08:52):
Yeah,
Doree (08:54):
I was so tired, Coda, I was just like, oh my God. At that point I was just running on fumes. I was like, oh my God. Okay,
Elise (09:01):
But congrats mama. You made it through.
Doree (09:03):
I'm glad it's done. I'm glad it's over. I have to say he got great gifts from his classmates. I was like, oh, I think they really get him. That's sweet. Yeah, so it was cute. It was nice. Before we take a break, Elise, I just want to read a text that we got. Someone said, just heard the voice note about giving blood in case people don't know you can have Red Cross come to your work and do a blood drive. It's easy to do and makes it convenient for people.
Elise (09:35):
Oh, that's great. So not only should you give blood, you could also be the organizer of your own blood drive at your place of work.
Doree (09:44):
Yeah. How cool.
Elise (09:46):
Yeah,
Doree (09:46):
Great idea.
Elise (09:47):
Thanks for sharing that with
Doree (09:48):
Us. Yeah. Alright, we are going to take a short break. Before we do that, just a reminder, you can visit our website forever 35 podcast.com. We have links there to everything we mention on the show. You can follow us on Instagram at Forever 35 podcast. Our newsletter is Forever 35 podcast.com/newsletter. And our favorite products art shop, my.us/forever three five. We have a great email coming up after the break about burnout.
Elise (10:16):
Ooh, yeah, you were talking about that a few weeks
Doree (10:19):
Ago. Yes. That I think is going to resonate with people. So stay tuned, we'll be right back.
Elise (10:24):
We'll be right back.
Doree (10:32):
All right, we are back. We're going to start with a voicemail that is actually directed at you, Elise.
Listener Voicemail (10:43):
Okay. Hi Elise. I was just listening to episode 3 47 peaking when you're 90 or something like that. Anyways, I was cracking up at the fact that your mom was visiting and she made you breakfast sandwiches and then immediately asked what was her lunch. And that is something my sister and I joke slash complain about with my mother. I'm from an Italian family, so food is life. I even joke that I have a speech language pathologist in a hospital, so I treat a lot of swallowing disorders. So literally my main goal in life is to feed as many people as possible. Whenever we're on vacation together, we won't even be done the meal and she is asking what we're going to eat for the next meal. Our life is just so ingrained and revolved around food and it's so ridiculous and it just cracks me up. Obviously now as an adult I gave a little bit more grace, but sometimes it isn't sense. And she also does the same thing whenever I'm, or whenever I am busy or anything, she comes over and feeds me and it's wonderful because she's also a great cook. But I just wanted to share that you and I sounds like have very similar moms and very similar parenting styles, so thank you. Love the pot. Love you guys. Thanks. Bye.
Elise (12:14):
Oh my gosh, I relate to that so hard and it sounds like she was relating to me. It's true. I do feel so loved and nurtured and mothered when my mom is around, but my mom expresses that love and nurturing through food and so I eat so many more hot meals than I typically do when she is around. And now she has sadly gone and my stomach has probably expanded and now I'm hungry all the time. So weird. Weird. Come back soon. I know. Come back soon, mom. And I loved that message. Thanks so much.
Doree (12:53):
I did too. And then we got another voice message that I also really loved. Y'all were killing it this week with your voice memos, so we're voicemails. So thank you.
Listener Voicemail (13:05):
Hi, Dorian Elise, I'm on my way to pick up my son from daycare and I had to pause the pod and give you guys a call. I was listening to the Debbie Millman episode and she was talking about the art that she has in her house and how it brings her so much joy and she really tries to collect things that bring her joy. And my husband and I have ever since the beginning of our marriage have done the same thing. Every year we go down to Provincetown, Cape Cod, and it's an artist community. And in Cape Cod in general, you can find a lot of arts and we routinely, we buy one piece of art and it doesn't necessarily have to be, like Debbie was saying, a painting or something that's totally out of our price range. But we buy a lot of prints and it's a lot of unique stuff that you wouldn't find.
(13:59):
And it brings us so much joy to have it hanging in our house to the point where I'm not sure where we're going to put some more stuff. We're running out of wall space. But I highly recommend looking at prints, going to artist communities and just putzing around the galleries because the people there are wonderful, they're very nice. They're usually pretty open to talking with you about the art and the process. They usually are so pumped that people are just trying to be involved. So hope you guys are doing well. And again for the arts,
Elise (14:39):
That's very sweet.
Doree (14:40):
Love that. Yeah, so sweet.
Elise (14:42):
I really enjoyed talking with Debbie Millman and she's been on her book tour, so I've been seeing a bunch of Debbie Millman quotes and posts and things like that and it reminds me of our really warm and generative conversation with her. So if y'all didn't hear it, go back and listen to that one.
Doree (15:00):
Yeah, definitely do that. We have a text. Yeah, you want to read this?
Elise (15:04):
Thank you. Dory and the other listener for all the meal recs, I paused the pod to add them to my notes app. We are struggling with dinnertime in my house and our various meal needs. My husband will eat anything. My teenage son has the taste buds of a toddler and I'm trying to figure out maintenance nutrition for my GLP one journey. I will also be checking out dinner in one. That's a book I recommended. Thanks for the rec release. One last thing, may love glow maker is amazing. I've had it on subscription for a year. I just discovered their peptide squad, which is the best. I use it. Am and pm. I wish it came in a pump. Can't recommend it enough for my almost forever 45 face May. Love is Dory's one of Dory's favorite products. Folks, if y'all are new to the show, we were talking about our new serum discoveries and OG serums and the one that Dory is still a big fan of is this may love glue maker.
Doree (16:02):
Yes. And I think that I originally started using it when they sent me some products to try and I am now such a fan. It worked that I purchase it myself. I think especially for the price, they are the best vitamin C serum. My only quibble is I wish their bottle was a pump and not a dropper because
Elise (16:31):
Which is exactly what the listener was saying.
Doree (16:34):
Yeah, yeah. Because it keeps vitamin C in particular more fresh in a pump. So I agree with this listener. Supposedly the best type of bottle for vitamin C is an opaque pump bottle. Okay. Because vitamin C goes bad pretty quickly. It
Elise (16:55):
Does generally get that kind of,
Doree (16:57):
Yeah. I'm generally not a expiration date person, you know what I mean? I don't get too obsessed with the expiration dates, but with vitamin C you do have to be pretty careful because vitamin C in particular does go bad. So yeah, just something to watch out for. Alright. Onto the burnout recovery prevention email that I teased before the break. Hi do Elise longtime pod fan. I'm a psychologist in Ontario and a part of my work is burnout recovery slash prevention.
Elise (17:33):
We need you.
Doree (17:34):
Yes,
Elise (17:35):
We need you. Longtime pod fan
Doree (17:37):
In Ontario. I had a tip for Dory, a pause the pod moment for me when she said she was feeling crispy. One of the most important things to remember when you want to add something into your life to ease burnout when you feel it coming on is to add something small and accessible. You want to add something to your life that is just for you or brings you renewal that is easy to plan or get to and that you can get to daily or as much as possible. A key piece of pulling out of a burnout spiral is doing the things often as you can. It's why vacations slash retreats are only temporary relief. You want to add something that will make a difference to your daily real life. Take care and keep on keeping on Christine and she is a clinical psychologist and her website is inner wisdom psych.ca. Her website is very calming. It has a lot of pictures of calming nature. Yes. This that can be your
Elise (18:32):
Daily ritual.
Doree (18:33):
Yeah, exactly. This is actually something that checking out nature that Puja Laman said as well. I remember, did we interview, I think we interviewed her right before you started
Elise (18:44):
Maybe. That's right. She was on this show before I started, but I know her. She is a friend. Our books are in conversation with each other. So she is the author of Real Self-Care and she's also from Austin and she's
Doree (19:01):
So boy. Well her whole thing is vacations are not going to be the thing that solves your depression or solves your burnout. This is basically what she said as well. So yeah, I mean tennis is that thing for me. I feel like if I didn't have tennis I would be in a total full on spiral. I'm only barely able to keep my head above water because I have tennis. So yeah.
Elise (19:37):
And it's something that you can return to again and again, which is nice.
Doree (19:41):
Totally. Totally. And yeah, I mean there's so many benefits to tennis, I can't even where to even begin, but yes, Christine, thank you for this. I agree. I think right now my problem is more sort of big picture existential, so I need some bigger changes, but I have the tennis and the tennis is what's keeping me afloat at all. Alright, we are going to take another short break and then we'll be right back.
Elise (20:19):
Yeah. What happens when we come back door?
Doree (20:21):
Well, Elise, we have one of my favorite types of texts or emails to receive.
Listener Voicemail (20:27):
Okay.
Doree (20:28):
Dun dun dun. We'll find out after these messages. All right, we are back. First. I'm going to play a great voicemail that we got. It's very short.
Listener Voicemail (20:46):
Hi, this is long time listener Nina calling to say, Hey, I loved that interview with author Annie Hartnett and I just got the unlikely animals from my library Audi, but version and it. Wonderful. I'm just starting it and wow. Thank you so much for the recommendation. She's an amazing writer. Okay, love you guys. Bye.
Doree (21:14):
I love that. We had a lot of messages this week where people were commenting on guests on stuff they heard from guests, which I
Elise (21:23):
Like. Oh, that's great. That's great. My Ted Talks daily producer Lucy actually did text me, I think I sent you a screen grab that she texted me about that same Annie Hartnett episode because of the bird call stuff. She was like, I loved that whole conversation about how we all end up becoming bird watchers eventually. Totally. And that it was funny because she used to think that bird watchers were odd and now I've become one and I totally get it is what she
Doree (21:52):
Said. I sent this to Annie, I was like, you got some fan mail.
Elise (21:59):
Oh, that's sweet.
Doree (22:00):
But it always feels good when someone whose work you love is loved by others. Absolutely. Happy to get this. And now on to one of my favorite types of texts and emails to receive, which is a free mug fail.
Elise (22:18):
Oh, this is a chance for Dory to feel smug.
Doree (22:25):
No pun intended. This is my crusade. My life's work is convincing people of the dangers of free mugging and every so often people will send us a picture of their free mug fail. So this listener sent us a picture of their nice looking mug and some spilled tea on their lap and they said, thankfully it was just tea and it was cold. Okay. But this listener also said, I was wondering the other day about getting a Dorie's hotel segment. Maybe you do them on Patreon. Sorry, I'm not a member at the moment, but it always brought so much joy, like a little meditation, would love a dorie's summer hotel or birthday story. Thank you. Yeah, we have not done a Dorie's hotel. We certainly haven't done one since Elise.
Elise (23:17):
No. Yeah, I want to hear one
Doree (23:19):
Has been on the show. They were a real pandemic, a real pandemic thing. I basically did guided meditations where I pretended to be at a cozy hotel.
Elise (23:36):
Well listener, this free Mugger wants it. So
Doree (23:42):
That's where
Elise (23:43):
We're at. You should record it. You should record it and put it up on the Patreon for our Dory's Hotel Patreon tier. Yeah,
Doree (23:51):
The Patreon Tears are named after Dory's Hotel, which is very funny to me. This listener also said also, I was wondering if you could ask listeners for a podcast wreck. I obvi listen to Forever 35, but I have a job as a jeweler. Oh, that's cool. And I listen to stuff all day. I listen to audiobooks too. One of my other favorite podcasts is called Mama Mia Out Loud. And it's an Australian podcast where three women chat, but I haven't really found an American equivalent. Any other ideas? I'm looking for that balance of smart conversation and perspectives with cheeky fun. It's definitely my wreck to people looking for a podcast. But I'm curious if there's anything similar out there. You guys are already on this list. I have so much time in the day to listen. I need more.
Elise (24:34):
I have a beauty podcast to recommend that is two women chatting and then often with a guest. It's called Fat Mascara. It's very good and I learn a lot from it and And I like the hosts. So if you're not already listening to Fat Mascara along with your Forever 35 or as part of your general podcast diet, then I would shout out Fat Mascara. They have been on our show. Show. Yeah. Oh yeah, that's right. Are there other chat podcasts that you like? Well, I was
Doree (25:05):
Thinking of Busy Phillips's podcast. Busy Phillips is doing her best.
Listener Voicemail (25:11):
That
Doree (25:11):
Is a chat podcast and that is also a very long podcast. Her episodes are two to three hours long, so if you need to fill up a lot of time, that could be a good one to try.
Elise (25:30):
I really like Amy Puller's new one. Good.
Doree (25:32):
Hey Amy Puller's new one is great. The Deep Dive with Jessica St. Clair and June Diane Rayfield is also a chatty podcast
Elise (25:44):
I really like. This is an Australian show, I think so since you're already out of Australia, I think Listener Who shot on the floor at My Wedding, it's a true crime podcast investigating who shot on the floor at this person's wedding.
Doree (26:01):
That's so funny.
Elise (26:02):
It is a joy. It is a light and it uses all the true crime tropes for the storytelling. It's very well done. So if you, it's not a Cho Chat podcast because it's more of a narrative, but I really do like who Shot on the floor at my wedding and then one of my all time most frequently recommended podcasts. So maybe this is something that we can evolve the Forever 35 Question narrative to include is if Books Could Kill.
Doree (26:32):
Oh yeah, that's a great one. Books
Elise (26:33):
Could Kill is where they unpack airport books basically. So Atomic Habits by James Clear, they read it and then they actually get into a lot of the claims in it. And if any of the charts make sense, they do it with Four Hour Work Week, which was hilarious. They've done it with all sorts of big name books that you've probably heard of if not read. And it's hilarious and such a joy.
Doree (26:59):
Another podcast that is like a chatty podcast is Nicole Byers, why Won't You Date Me? It's such a funny show and she's so funny and it's very chatty. And those episodes are like an hour-ish long, so a decent amount of time.
Elise (27:22):
She's so funny too. Nicole Byers iss hilarious.
Doree (27:25):
Oh, Las Cultas is Bow and Yang fun. Yep. The Bow and Yang podcast. Oh, there's another show. There's a former Forever 35 guest called Couples Therapy, Naomi Rigan and her husband Andy Beckerman. They're both hilarious and it's very funny. So yeah. So those are a few suggestions, listener.
Listener Voicemail (27:52):
Yeah, thanks for asking.
Doree (27:54):
Alright, well Elise, great to see you listeners, thanks for joining us and we will talk to you soon.
Elise (28:00):
Okay, talk to you next time.
Doree (28:01):
Bye.