Mini-Ep 299: Sisterhood of the Traveling Prods
Kate and Doree talk travel prods and mini bottles before hearing from listeners about under eye skincare for after a good cry, yellowing sheets, and being the “old parent” at school pick-up.
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Kate Spencer: Hello, Forever 35 listeners. This is forever 35 that went, that came weird. Welcome to a podcast about the things we do to take care of ourselves. I'm Kate Spencer,
Doree Shafrir: And I'm Doree Shafrir,
Kate Spencer: And we are not experts.
Doree Shafrir: No, but we are two friends who like to talk a lot about serums.
Kate Spencer: And this is a mini episode where we hear from you. We share your comments and your thoughts, and we answer your questions to the best of our ability.
Doree Shafrir: Uh, but do, please remember we are a podcast host, not experts, and we always encourage you to seek support first and foremost, from a medical and or mental health professional as needed.
Kate Spencer: If you would like to reach us, you can hit us up on the voicemails at 7 8 1 5 9 1 0 3 9 0. You can also text us at that number. And then of course you can hit us up on the Gemes forever35 Podcast@gmail.com. Yeah. I gotta bring it. I gotta bring back the gemes<laugh>.
Doree Shafrir: Um, and you can visit our website for every 35 podcast.com for links to everything we mention on the show. You can also head on over to shop my shelf.us/forever 35, where you will also find links to all the prods we mentioned. Plus some shelves that have like our faves and things just kind of categorized in a different way. So check that out.
Kate Spencer: Do we have a shelf called butt care yet? Doree, or may I curate that?
Doree Shafrir: Uh, you may curate that. That is all you Kate
Kate Spencer: Gonna add that to ye old todo list.
Doree Shafrir: Kate. I'm excited for all of us
Kate Spencer: <laugh> Here's a question I wanna pose to you. My friend, Doree. I am leaving for a weeklong Jaunt across the country. Here's my question for you.
Doree Shafrir: Mm-hmm <affirmative> I'm listening.
Kate Spencer: I'm bringing a carryon. I'm not, um, I'm trying to, you know, kind of pack light because I'm gonna be, you know, on like trains, planes and walking around a lot.
Doree Shafrir: Yep, yep. Yep.
Kate Spencer: How do you narrow down the serums You bring on a longer trip? Because I feel like if I'm just going away for the weekend, it's like, I don't really need, like, I just like moisturize wash sunscreen. I'm done, but I'm, I kind of don't wanna like lag on my routine, but I also have to kind of be like a little,
Kate Spencer: I don't wanna say discriminatory, but like I have to have, have I have to make some cuts. You know what I mean? Like there, there do have to be some winners and I I'm curious, like, how do you narrow it down? I can bring tinier containers. I'm gonna do that. But I have like a, I have a kypris hydrating serum that I like to put on before everything else, like morning and night. And I don't wanna like leave that behind. So I have to bring that plus sunscreen plus moisturizer plus a face wash plus like maybe an oil or like a heavier moisturizer. I mean, like, this is what happens then I end up with like 17 tiny things. So I guess I'm asking you like, you're very good. I feel like at whittling things down and being like you bring girl boss energy to what makes your suitcase.
Doree Shafrir: Kate never use that word to Describe me again.
Kate Spencer: You bring 2015 Girl Boss energy
Doree Shafrir: this podcast Is over
Kate Spencer: <laugh> we don't prescribe girl boss energy on this podcast, but I'm just saying like, that's
Doree Shafrir: Honestly the most insulting thing you've ever said to me.
Kate Spencer: oh God. I'm so sorry. I just mean you're
Doree Shafrir: Like, it's fine.
Kate Spencer: You're the Executive of your suitcase. You know what I mean?
Doree Shafrir: I am, I am. I'm the, I'm the executive of my suitcase now that I like. Okay. Um, okay. So first of all, have I, I have, I, I have moved away from decanting.
Kate Spencer: Okay. Now I'm, now I'm already like shooked. What shooked also that's the wrong <laugh> I am shock. I am shocked. And I am shook, what?
Doree Shafrir: Yes,
Kate Spencer: you've moved Away from the decanting?
Doree Shafrir: I've moved away from decanting. and ill tell you why
Kate Spencer: I can't handle this. Okay.
Doree Shafrir: I found generally that the containers I decanted into were often not as leak proof as I wanted them to be. So that was number one. Number two. I, to end up with like the, the container would be like half full at the end of the trip.
Kate Spencer: Mm.
Doree Shafrir: So like then you have, you know, you can like decant back into your original thing or what is more likely to happen in my case is you just leave these half decant, the items in the bottom of your, uh, toiletries bag. And then when you go to take another trip, you find them and like it's all dried up and gross and you're like, oh, well that was dumb. <laugh>
Kate Spencer: And then you have this like wasted.
Doree Shafrir: Yes. And then you have to wash it out and, you know, it's just sort of like, okay. So What I have done instead is, um, for shampoo and conditioner, for example, I like, I also let me preface this by saying, I like to bring my own shampoo and conditioner on a trip that is kind of a non-negotiable for me.
Kate Spencer: This is so interesting. See, in my planning, I'm already, like, I can wait to the hotel, like wait for the hotel and then my stepmom's house. So like, I don't. Okay. So we take different roads on this, this,
Doree Shafrir: Okay. So Brio Gio, which is one of the shampoos that I, that is in my regular rotation makes a travel size of their blossom and bloom. Well, I think they make travel sizes of all their stuff, but they make travel size blossom and bloom shampoo and conditioner. So I have those, um, then what I will usually do is go through my little contain. I have a container of like samples and little travel size things. And I will often grab like a night cream and a face wash and like, like things that are big that I just don't wanna bring with me. I will take from my, my sample and travel. Like, these are things that I've not bought. These are things that have often been sent to me or came with a purchase or whatever. And I just see this as like a fun time, you know, as we have discussed you, you like to dabble, I like to dabble on a trip. I like to say, you know what, here I have this, this small jar of <affirmative> night cream. Let me just try it on this trip.
Kate Spencer: You Have flings, you have little skincare flings on your trips.
Doree Shafrir: Exactly. And, but I will bring, like, my serums are usually in a small bottle that to me, don't take up that much room. So I will bring my serums. I will bring my key E serums. Um, and yeah, that's kind of how I operate because I do find that the bulkiest things tend to be things like face wash, um, moisturizer night cream, or here's another good example of something that I've bought the travel size of, um, the biossance mineral sunscreen comes in two sizes. It comes in a smaller size. So I'll take that with me. Um, yeah. So, you know, I like, I think I realize that like travel size travel sizes as a rule are not as like environmentally conscious as
Kate Spencer: I know,
Doree Shafrir: But you know, I think in like the grand scheme of things, me buying some Brio Gio shampoo and conditioner and like a travel size sunscreen is ultimately, I don't think that's gonna be the make or break. So,
Kate Spencer: Well, I, I actually wanted to mention this too, because as I told you, I went to Sephora recently and like, I think the hardest part of Sephora is making it through the checkout line without picking up a tiny item, if you can accomplish that.
Doree Shafrir: Yeah.
Kate Spencer: That is like the greatest accomplishment to ever exist because they tempt you with every,
Doree Shafrir: They really do
Kate Spencer: Tiny fucking product that known to mankind. You need a tiny eyeliner, great. You need a tiny, like Brazilian butt cream it's there. So I did grab, while I was in line, the biossance squalane, and omega repair moisturizer in a tiny travel size, cuz I was like, this will be perfect For my trip.
Doree Shafrir: That is, that is literally perfect. Yeah,
Kate Spencer: It is literally perfect. But I just have to note like man Sephora, like they make, there's like a corner that you turn, like there's like two corners of that little in any sephora where they have made this line, like very long to walk through so that you are bombarded by tiny products.
Doree Shafrir: Yes.
Kate Spencer: And the, and the thing about the tiny products at Sephora, some of them cost like $30.
Doree Shafrir: I know.
Kate Spencer: so You grab it being like, oh, this is a $10 thing. Like, okay. And then you get, and you've got like a hundred dollars in miniature products.
Doree Shafrir: Yeah.
Kate Spencer: Only me. Only me only me. Mm-hmm <affirmative> Not just me,
Doree Shafrir: You know? I think I also, I just also wanna say like, I don't mean to make light of like the very real problem with like plastics <laugh>
Kate Spencer: No i dont think you are no, um, you're not,
Doree Shafrir: But what I will also say is I just, I don't travel as much lately, you know?
Kate Spencer: Yeah. Well, so yeah, I know
Doree Shafrir: I'm, it's not like I'm going through like a travel size thing a week. It's like one every two years.
Kate Spencer: <laugh> yeah. That's fair. All right. Well I'll report back. I'm gonna like, maybe, maybe I'll even take a picture of what I end up bringing in my carry on and sharing it.
Doree Shafrir: Yeah. That would be fun.
Kate Spencer: Just to see that might even just help me. It's just hard to narrow down. And then I do a little baggy with my dry products.
Doree Shafrir: Do you have a toilet? Do you have like a good toiletries bag?
Kate Spencer: I have like seventy, but you know, but I, because it's a carryon, I, I, I bring this like clear plastic thing for all my liquidy prods. And then I have like a variety of bags for my dry products. You know, like my hair brush.
Doree Shafrir: I mean. I'm gonna be honest. I, when I, when I have flown domestically, especially recently, I like, I just leave everything in my toiletries bag.
Kate Spencer: Wait, that seems reasonable. What do you mean? Oh, like you don't do a clear bag.
Doree Shafrir: I don't do a clear bag anymore.
Kate Spencer: You're living on the edge dor. You are like, I'm living on the edge, these rules.
Doree Shafrir: Well, it's not like I'm like, fuck these rules. Although I do think the rules are truly dumb. Um, and arbitrary and whatever. This is security theater is like a real pet peeve of mine. Um, but nothing is over 3.4 ounces I'm not trying to get away with.
Kate Spencer: Right, right. Right.
Doree Shafrir: And I, I like, in my experience again, I think this is different. This is also different different countries. I remember being at Heathrow once and like, they were extremely strict about it. Um, oh,
Kate Spencer: Canada was super strict when I was leaving Toronto the last time in 2019. Yeah.
Doree Shafrir: This is a real, like, your mileage may vary, but like, if I'm just flying domestically, I usually just leave the stuff in my toiletries bag because my toiletries bag is not that big. It's not like I'm packing a suitcase full of serums and being right. This is cool. Right? Like it's basically the size of a clear plastic bag. And I have never had a problem. Like I've never had an issue. No one has ever called me on it.
Kate Spencer: Well, they made my nine year old throw out her tube of toothpaste. Like I had warned. I was like, listen, I know you don't have five ounces of toothpaste, but it's a, like a four or five ounce thing. And they might, and she like, couldn't wrap her hand around it. And so I was just like, okay, like bring it in your carry on, but just FYI. So she got to New York and then no one found it. And then we were flying from New York back to Los Angeles. They like, they were like very strict about it. And, and I got held up because I got random screening. And so when I finally got out of it, my kid was like crying on a bench because she thought she was gonna get arrested, for having the toothpaste.
Doree Shafrir: Like,
Kate Spencer: And then I have to explain what the, like, even though they kind of understand, it's still very hard to,
Doree Shafrir: Well, yes, because it is a dumb rule.
Kate Spencer: It's such a dumb rule. So they
Doree Shafrir: so they Understand that it's a dumb rule.
Kate Spencer: Yeah. And then you have to go back and explain all these kind of moments and from the early two thousands that are right. You know, that they like kind of understand, but totally, literally last night and, and we can probably cut this, but literally last night, Lydia goes, mom, can we talk more about nine 11 sometime? I was like, yeah, we can.
Doree Shafrir: Okay. All right.
Kate Spencer: Yeah. Yeah. It was rough. It was rough.
Doree Shafrir: That's yeah. That's a lot. That's
Kate Spencer: Fantastic. And then she was like, does who works in the Pentagon? And I was like, I literally don't know. I'm a terrible person. I have no idea. CIA. I don't know.
Doree Shafrir: I don't think that makes you a terrible person. It's the department of defense.
Kate Spencer: Thank you. Dor thank you for you're explaining. It's not the CIA. Um, alright. Well, listen, we got off on a tangent, um, I appreci, I appreciate your support with the travel stuff here. And uh, let's take a little break and then we can hop in with some questions.
Doree Shafrir: All right.
Doree Shafrir: Okay. We have returned with a text.
Text 1: Hey, Doree and Kate, do you have skincare recommendations for when your face and eyes are puffy and painful after a good, long cathartic, ugly cry, especially if you rubbed your eyes a lot during the process, there are things I do to help ground myself mentally and emotionally after a good cry. For example, I do something physical to get back in touch with my body. Like go for a walk, call a friend, journal, listen to music or do something tactile. I love, but oof, my skin and eyes need post cry, TLC, a splash of cold water, ice pack, and eye cream tend to work just okay. But I want to try something else if you have other ideas.
Kate Spencer: Okay. I have an idea, but I haven't tried it, but I want it. So obviously you could use like an ice roller or a Jade roller, which you, you know, keep in the fridge, the freezer. And that will be nice and cooling and reduce the swelling cuz really it's it's your, your, your face is swollen, right? Yeah. But Jamie Greenberg makeup artist to the stars slash past forever 35 guests past slash, amazing follow on the internet. I learned. So like she gives very practical advice. She was using something and like, I think she was doing a video on undereye kind of like reducing puffiness and dark circles. And she used something called, she called it like a, uh, like an ice globe. Hmm. Okay. And it was essentially like a round metal or like water filled ball on the end of a stick. And I was like, what the hell is this? I need this. How have I never seen this? So if you look, if you Google face, globe roller, numerous options come up, they honestly look like little magic wands. You might give your child. And I want One of these.
Kate Spencer: Have you ever seen these before?
Doree Shafrir: no. I have not.
Kate Spencer: I'm I'm I need, I really, really wanna buy one. And I see that like, you can get some at target. These look, you could, you know, spend more money and get some at like Derm store. It looks like there are tons of options, but I think there are some really fun under eye cooling tools that you could acquire.
Doree Shafrir: Okay.
Kate Spencer: The other thing I love is getting a little like under eye, um, masks, little undereye patches that are like specifically cooling. Sometimes they have Serum. Um, and if you keep those in the fridge, those are really nice for under eye. I have ordered, but I don't yet own the dieux skin reusable ones, which I'm very excited to.
Doree Shafrir: Mm-hmm <affirmative>
Kate Spencer: Um, and I think I have some from pixie that I like, I, I always just kind of collect those little undereye masks. I know I have, um, some from wander beauty, like I just have a bunch floating around. I think I have a Jillian Dempsy pair that I might bring on my plane. So just keep, keep those in the fridge. Those will feel so good under your eye. And then any like caffeinated eye cream tends to help. And also like a teabag. I always do a caffeinated teabag Under the eye Make it ince and cold. Those help. Okay. Anything else? Doree I, I really just went on a list. What do you have ?
Doree Shafrir: no, this, I don't have anything to add to this. This was a very comprehensive list. Yeah. I think just splash some like cold water <laugh>.
Kate Spencer: Well, When I in high school, when I said goodbye to my high school boyfriend and drove off to college with my parents, I cried so hard that my eyes were swollen shut. And I had to sit in the back seat of the car, like lying down with ice packs on my eyes for the two and a half drive hour drive to Maine. So I've been there.
Doree Shafrir: Okay.
Kate Spencer: Anyway, anybody tell me about those ice Globes. I want some Globes
Doree Shafrir: Get Kate, some Globes,
Kate Spencer: Get me some Globes. All you globe makers out there hit us up.
Kate Spencer: All right. Here is a, a text message.
Text 2: Hi, cat and door. First and foremost, I wanna say that my husband has good hygiene. He doesn't smell. He showers every night. Okay. Here's the problem. The bedding always gets very discolored on his side of the it's yellowish like old pillows. This happens even when changing the sheets and mattress pad weekly. I'm assuming he sweats a lot at night, but he doesn't smell sweaty, maybe oil. He has very oily hair. The bed doesn't smell, but it's so unsightly. It looks like someone died in our bed. We can't have white or even light sheets. And I keep a mattress pad on always the mattress pad is always yellow. Any ideas of what to do? Or are we doomed to a yellow mattress pad and dark sheets? Thanks.
Doree Shafrir: I wonder if your, yeah. I mean you say, I I'm assuming he sweats a lot of night. I think that's what it is.
Kate Spencer: Yeah. I think it's literally just, yes, it's just sweat.
Doree Shafrir: And like he doesn't, maybe he smell sweaty, quote unquote, because he does shower and you know, he's clean. It's clean sweat, but he is hot. He runs hot
Kate Spencer: Doree. Have you ever like bleached? Do you use white sheets?
Doree Shafrir: We have white sheets. Yes.
Kate Spencer: We're also white sheets people.
Doree Shafrir: We, we don't actually, we don't bleach, but we have used Oxy clean.
Kate Spencer: Yeah, same. I think you could also use like baking soda, maybe a white vinegar, like a white vinegar soak. I, I think there's definitely ways to kind of get this out. My other thought would be like maybe rotating Sheets. Mm. Like get self three sets. Mm-hmm <affirmative> and may I recommend target's cotton, like crisp cotton sheets are like, they're like the best. And they're so soft
Doree Shafrir: That's a hot tip
Kate Spencer: I love like, I, we have, we've had some really nice like bedsheet sponsors in the past. And I really like, I love all of them. Like I have some Brooklyn and stuff. I have some attitude. I'm trying to remember all of them, but we have, we have some great like sheet sponsors, but I will say
Doree Shafrir: Cozy earth. Love those sheets.
Kate Spencer: Cozy earth's are nice. Mm-hmm <affirmative>. Yeah, but I like, I am very pleased with the cotton. I think they are 400 thread sheets from star, not Starbucks. <laugh> it's from Starbucks. From target. So just look for those Target has good cheap sheets. That's all.
Doree Shafrir: Yeah. Or, I mean, look, this might just be one of those things where it's like, You just can't have white sheets. You say, I mean, you say we can't have white or even light sheets, but like, So I don't know. Maybe this isn't a problem. Just get dark sheets. Is that weird?
Kate Spencer: Maybe just get dark sheets. Yeah. I think this is a problem. A lot of people have we sleep hot. I mean, I have like major night sweats sometimes, especially if I'm on my menstrual cycle. Yeah. So I feel you, I feel your husband too. It sucks.
Doree Shafrir: Mm-hmm.
Kate Spencer: All right. Moving on.
Doree Shafrir: Yeah. Here's an email.
Email 1: Kate and Doree. Hi, Kate Doree. I would love your input on my current dilemma. My daughter is nearly five and I'm 42, which puts me in the higher age range, especially in my area as a mom. The other day, I picked my daughter up from school and she said to me, mom, I wish you looked like mom. When she asked, when asked what she meant, she told me I looked old. I'm not gonna lie. This sent me into a tailspin of scheduling, PRF, microneedling, and Botox. I'm not a hugely vain person, but I'm admittedly disturbed by this. When objectively, I know I'm probably 10 years older than Spencer's mom. I'm proud of my life and the path of having my daughter older as I'm much more stable in many ways to be a good mother to her. On the other hand, I wanna know how others have dealt with being the older mom amongst spring chickens. Thanks for all the pod. Goodness. May you have a zesty day?
Kate Spencer: Mm, this is so this is hard.
Doree Shafrir: Yeah. This is hard.
Kate Spencer: I think I would've had the same exact reaction as you listener. No matter like how secure we are in our selves and our bodies and our appearances, whatever. Like anything like this makes us tailspin, you know? Yeah.
Doree Shafrir: <affirmative>
Kate Spencer: I get it. You know, there's nothing wrong with the feelings that you have had as a result.
Doree Shafrir: Mm-hmm
Doree Shafrir: Now, how do you navigate this?
Kate Spencer: Well, I think in the conversation with your child, you just say, you know, I think it's kind of like for, I would follow the advice that I feel like Doree you've given in the past, which is just like, ask questions, have a conversation. Like mm-hmm <affirmative> um, like, well, what do you like about Spencer's mom and how they look and then like, you know, and then I'm she asked, you told you she looked old. We can say, well, yeah, you know, I'm, I am 42. That's how old I am. Um, and sometimes when your body ages, like, I think you can, it's weird because sometimes our kids say things that they feel like digs because we're hearing them with our adult ears. And like, after consuming years of like systemic misogyny and, and beauty culture, but really they're just like making a objective observations.
Doree Shafrir: Yeah. I think that's a really, really good point. And I also feel like at this age, they're very, they're like notice they notice differences and they notice mm-hmm, <affirmative> like, they're it, they're very attuned to these kinds of things, but it's often like, not something that like, it's not like she's fixated on it. It was just sort of like a, like a comment, you know what I mean?
Kate Spencer: Yes. It it's, it wasn't no necessarily a, a criticism,
Doree Shafrir: But right.
Kate Spencer: But it's because, because we're so used to, I think, and again, I, I, I'm just kind of guessing guessing here, but because I think we're so used to this idea of you look old as being a criticism on how we look, because aging is not celebrated. culturally, it feels as if they're picking, like, there's, I'm not quite articulating myself correctly here, but I think that, you know, you can have a conversation with them about aging, like, oh, well, yeah. You know, like my, your skin can change and other things can change. Like my bones are, you know, blah, blah, blah. You can talk about what aging, how you are happy. That you're aging Cause it means you get to be here with your daughter. I don't know. You can, you can kind of navigate the conversation if it comes up again, as you will. Um, and Hey, like, you know what, if you try microneedling and Botox, like, great, enjoy it. See if you like it. And if you don't, that's also great.
Doree Shafrir: Totally.
Kate Spencer: And look like Spencer's mom. We don't know how old Spencer's mom is.
Doree Shafrir: No, we don't.
Kate Spencer: You know? And like Spencer's mom is probably dealing with their own insecurities and issues about how they look. And you know, when Spencer's mom, Spencer might have told Spencer's mom that they look old,
Doree Shafrir: Maybe Spencer told Spencer's mom, why don't you look more like this child's mom
Kate Spencer: <laugh> yes. I mean, who knows what Spencer's saying over there also? Yeah.
Doree Shafrir: I also do just wanna point out the, the daughter said, mom, I wish you looked like Spencer's mom. And you know, I looked that, that you looked old. And I just, like, I do think that this is like Kate was saying, this is a chance to sort of interrogate, like why it is "bad to look old" and like, I get that she's only five, but you know, I think that, that, like, this is a conversation to just like, be that it's a conversation worth having.
Kate Spencer: Yeah.
Doree Shafrir: Like how, like how does it make you feel that I don't look like Spencer's mom.
Kate Spencer: Ooh, geez. Yeah.
Doree Shafrir: You know? Yeah. Let's get into it. Five year old. <laugh>
Kate Spencer: Pull Up a chair, get yourself a cup of tea, five year old. We're going deep into, uh, agism and how it manifests in our society. I dunno. I mean, Doree. Do you have any other thoughts about being the older mom amongst spring chickens? I mean, I know I had my first kid at 31. I know you had your first kid at what? 41
Doree Shafrir: 41 Baby.
Kate Spencer: So do you and I obvious it's obviously different too. I think where like, based on different communities, I, I feel like there are a lot of older moms here where we live in Los Angeles. I may be wrong. Have you had any experience, experiences like this as a mom who gave birth at 41?
Doree Shafrir: Um, not at, I mean, not at school because, because I think nine out of the 10 moms of the kids in this class are in their forties. Yeah. So, um, if anything that young mom probably feels weird
Kate Spencer: <laugh> Spencer's mom would feel very awkward.
Doree Shafrir: Yeah. Um, but I do have some mom friends, um, who are like 10 years younger than me. The other thing that is funny is like, and I think I've mentioned this before, but a lot of my friends, um, who are my age have kids who are in the like five to seven, five to eight, nine range <affirmative> um, and like, it's, it's just, it's just interesting. I mean, it's also nice because I feel like I have this like coven of moms who I can just be like, Hey, is it like when your kid was three? Like, you know, did they do X, Y, Z? And so that's, that's kind of nice that like, I am kind of the last one <laugh>.
Kate Spencer: Yeah.
Doree Shafrir: Um, but no, I mean, you know, I have also be, I've become really good friends with a few moms who are literally 10 years younger than me. And like, it almost never comes up. The only times it occasionally comes up is if there's some like pop culture, reference
Kate Spencer: Mm-hmm
Doree Shafrir: <affirmative> like kid, I think I told you this one of my very good mom, friends had never heard of Columbia house or BMG.
Kate Spencer: Oh no.
Doree Shafrir: Yeah.
Kate Spencer: I was like, no. Oh, they had never like gotten scammed by those CD companies
Doree Shafrir: <laugh> and they had never, and they had never scammed the CD companies, but then she was like, oh, I'll ask my husband because her husband is 40. And he was like, oh yeah, like I got CDs from them all the time. So that was interesting. Um, but yeah, it's like, I feel like it's usually only things like that
Kate Spencer: That make me be like, oh yeah, I'm older than you, but I'm also six years older than Matt. So like, I don't know. I guess I'm just used to being the oldest. I mean, I am the oldest in my family. I think you're just young at heart.
Doree Shafrir: Just young at heart. Okay. All right, Kate, we need to take another break.
Kate Spencer: Yes, we do. Okay. BRB.
Kate Spencer: All right, Doree, we're back, uh, with a little nip talk. This is a text from a listener I mean, so into nip talk, <laugh> this listener writes,
Text 3: Hey, for the listener seeking nip coverage. I have developed the prominent nip thing while breastfeeding and my wireless well, patted nursing bra does a great job to keep them from popping through my shirt bonus is that it's only 16.99. So it's a pretty low risk try separately regarding toenails. Mine are always getting flaky and britle even with regular Polish on for a week. They disintegrate basically. Is this a problem Everyone face? Is there a remedy disclaimer, sending a pic and this is months out from any Polish.
Kate Spencer: Listener. Thank you for the bra recommendation, But please know I was the one who came across your toe picture and I'm not a fan of feet.
Doree Shafrir: Kate was very, he disturbed by this.
Kate Spencer: I texted doree. I was like, the listener just sent us a fucking picture of their foot. <laugh> but I did wanna say like that to me sounds like a way that fungus can manifest and I would go get it checked out.
Doree Shafrir: Yeah. Yes. I agree with this as someone who is a recovering toe. Fungus haver. Yeah. Go get a check.
Kate Spencer: Oh, get it looked at by a profess. Um, and thank you for this link. We have the, we have the link. We will share it. 16.99. You like those Auden bras from target don't you? Haven't you tried those? Are they too Loosey goosey for you.
Doree Shafrir: Yes I have tried them. No, no, no. Especially for the price point. I think they're very good. Mm-hmm <affirmative> mm-hmm <affirmative> okay.
Kate Spencer: Okay. Just confirming. All right. Well, um, we're gonna wrap things up Doree with a voicemail. All right, here we go.
Voicemail: Hey guys. Um, it's Lauren from Miami and I totally look like I am having an important phone call right now, but, um, I'm calling you guys not, that is not important. You know what I mean? Um, I was speaking last night about, uh, pretty like revolutionary epipheny that I regarding. Um, I find that I have issues to my routine because by the time that I get up and get done around the house, put the baby to sleep. Um, I just can't bring myself in to sink for another however long. It takes five minutes or whatever. Um, so a lot of times I kinda just like, you know, drag my feet and maybe don't eat and do my skin. But recently I've been doing my routine from bed and it has really changed everything. Um, so I'll of course wash my face, but then everything else, my toner, my retinol, um, serum moisturizer Ill do from bed. And I find that I'm a lot more T and willing to go through with the whole routine, because I'm not like standing up and tired and I'm already closing my bed and it becomes like a very nice self care moment for me as a, and, um, and I have seen results in my skin from the persistency that I've been maintaining cause of that. So, um, wanted to share with you guys, um, thanks for the pod. Love you guys.
Doree Shafrir: Interesting. Now this is fascinating. So, you know, I went through a brief phase when I was still using, um, sheet masks. Mm-hmm <affirmative> where more time ago? Yes, I would do the sh and this was, yeah, I mean, it was a long time ago. Cause I remember doing this in our old house, so at least, you know, two and a half years ago, um, I would do the sheet mask get into bed and then I would, when I took it off, I would just like throw it away from bed or, you know, crumple it up and leave it on my nightstand to throw it in the morning. And then I had my night cream on the nightstand, so I didn't have to get up again. Mm. Which is to say so similar. Okay. I like this plan am <laugh>.
Kate Spencer: I like it. Look, I like it too. I mean, I, I love doing things from bed, so I, this is intriguing to me. It's just that I get up to pee approximately like 50 times before I go to sleep. So like once I'm in bed, I'm not in for good, you know, mm-hmm <affirmative> I love this listener. I would love, I would love a picture of your bedside table with your products on it. Please. If you hear this, please send it to us. Please send it to us. And any other bedside skincare people, I wanna just see what that looks like. I'd love to do kind of a bed bedside table retalk in the next few weeks. Mines a disaster, mines a disaster. I have two clocks on my bedside table right now. Like it's a fucking nightmare. So maybe we can do some like bedside table upgrade conversations.
Doree Shafrir: Oh, that could be interesting. Okay. All right.
Kate Spencer: Well, Doree I look love getting to spend this time with you?
Doree Shafrir: I mean, likewise,
Kate Spencer: everybody, thank you so much for listening. All right.
Doree: Bye.
Kate: Fair thee well.