This week Kate and Doree talk to Jolenta Greenberg and Kristen Meinzer, co-hosts of the By The Book podcast, about what it’s like to immerse themselves in self-help books, having a “work wife”, how they practice self-care, and their new podcast, We Love You (And So Can You)! Plus, Kate talks the joys of unplugging on her recent vacation, Doree digs into the real estate market, and they share the books they’ve been loving and what they have on their respective To Be Read lists.

Mentioned in this episode:

• Stranger Things

• Youth to the People Superfood Cleanser

• Simple Face Wash

• Simple Micellar Water

• Eva Chen’s Episode

• Pixi Glow Tonic

• Tata Harper Exfoliating Cleanser

• Tatcha The Rice Polish Foaming Enzyme Powder

• Fleabag

• The Wedding Date by Jasmine Guillory

• The Proposal by Jasmine Guillory

• The Wedding Party by Jasmine Guillory

• Twice in a Blue Moon by Christina Lauren

• Fleishman Is In Trouble by Taffy Brodesser-Akner

• The Right Swipe by Alisha Rai

• Well Met by Jen DeLuca

• Rafe by Rebekah Weatherspoon

• The Wallflower Wager by Tessa Dare

• Someone Who Will Love You In All Your Damaged Glory by Raphael Bob-Waksberg

• Red, White, and Royal Blue by Casey McQuiston

• The Royal We by Heather Cocks and Jessica Morgan

• Maisie Dobbs by Jacqueline Winspear

• A Beautiful Blue Death (Charles Lennox series) by Charles Finch

• Three Women by Lisa Taddeo

• Permanent Record by Mary HK Choi

  • Mary HK Choi’s Ep

• Trick Mirror by Jia Tolentino

• God Land by Lyz Lenz

• By The Book Podcast

• The Miracle Morning by Hal Elrod

• The Life-Changing Magic of Tidying Up by Marie Kondo

• The 4-Hour Workweek by Timothy Ferriss

• Men Are From Mars, Women Are From Venus by John Gray

• The Art of Dying Well by Katy Butler

• Past Lives Future Healing by Sylvia Browne

• When Meghan Met Harry Podcast

• So You Want to Start a Podcast by Kristen Meinzer

• We Love You (And So Can You) Podcast (It launches today!)

• By The Book Facebook Group

• quip Toothbrush (Get your first refill pack for FREE with your quip toothbrush order).

• Forever35 Book Club Facebook Group

Note: The book series Agatha Raisin is mentioned in passing in this episode. We’ve removed mention of it from this episode post as the book contains racist language and we do not recommend it.

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