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Episode 47: Gratefully Yours with Emily McDowell

It’s Thanksgiving time in the States, and Kate and Doree dig deeper into the things they’re grateful for this year (hint: Forever35 listeners!). Plus Kate tries to find calm during a health scare and Doree gets very into her bathtub.

Then they sit down with illustrator and author extraordinaire Emily McDowell (Emily McDowell Studio), who discusses her journey from creating greeting cards in her home to running her own business, getting in touch with her spirituality, dealing with perimenopause, and how her life improved after taking a vacation without checking email.

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Episode 46: Career Reinvention with Ellen Fondiler

On this week’s episode, Kate and Doree dig deeper into self-care during the holiday season, discussing their tips for surviving this busy time of year. Plus, Kate experiments with gel nails and wonders if she has a gluten intolerance, and Doree gets into pre-natal yoga and shares how she stays organized and on top of day to day tasks.

Then they welcome Ellen Fondiler, award-winning entrepreneur, career strategist, and self-described “child of the 60s.” Ellen discusses her career journey from attorney to bakery owner to non-profit head to entrepreneur, shares how she stays grounded and focused when grappling with self-doubt, and offers tips on how to make the leap out of a job that no longer serves you. Plus, she reveals her #1 self-care secret: naps.

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Episode 45: Everyday Product Picks with Eva Chen

This week, Kate and Doree share their most essential — and least glamorous — products that they can’t live with out. (Let’s hear it for medicated wipes and Q-tips!) Plus, Kate tries a new Vitamin C serum and deals with a stomach bug, and Doree shares a recipe for a delicious dish.

Then they welcome Eva Chen, head of fashion partnerships at Instagram and former editor In chief of Lucky magazine. Eva talks about experimenting with fashion and dressing for yourself, the women who inspired her new picture book Juno Valentine and the Magical Shoes, how she implements self-care while working in digital media, and her stripped down, 2 step skincare (!!!) routine.

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Mini-Episode 36: Gym Time and Surviving the Holidays

On this week’s mini-episode Kate and Doree hear from a pair of sister-in-laws who have a question about how to get excited about life changes after grad school, give tips on turning a gym shower into a self-care experience, and hear from a listener looking for advice on getting through the holiday season.

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Episode 44: Sephories Sale Season with Nicole Chung

It’s Sephora Sale season, and this week Kate and Doree breakdown what they might buy with that sweet, sweet discount. (Tubing mascara! A Dr. Jart set! And so much more.) Plus they discuss Kate’s nighttime phone addiction and her new sunrise alarm clock, Doree’s GAP underwear obsession, and the Sunday Riley fake reviews controversy.

Then they welcome All You Can Ever Know author Nicole Chung, who talks about her adoption story and search for her birth family, connecting with other transracial adoptees, finding communities that fulfill you, and how she and her husband juggle parenting and their careers

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Mini-Episode 35: Serum Secrets with Jasmine Guillory

This week Kate and Doree welcome their first guest to the mini-episode world! Jasmine Guillory — lawyer, author of the new book The Proposal, and past Forever35 guest — is back to help answer listener questions about making time for baths, the importance of sunscreening your hands, and growing pains in a friendship. Plus, Jasmine discusses her year-long yoga challenge, daily bath rituals, and how she lets go of guilt.

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Episode 43: Stay Mad with Rebecca Traister

This week Kate and Doree sit down with Rebecca Traister, author of the new book Good and Mad: The Revolutionary Power of Women’s Anger. They talk about living in a world that doesn’t respect women’s anger as serious and worthwhile, the ways in which we repress and express feelings, how to direct and use rage, the #MeToo Movement, and the importance of receiving and listening to the anger of other women.

Plus: Doree’s makes peace with her pregnancy sickness, Kate purges her products and streamlines her skincare routine (again), and they discuss what it would feel like to “spiral positively.” (Imagine it!)

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Mini-Episode 34: Clothing Care and Dry Shampoo

On this week’s mini-episode Kate and Doree hear from a listener who can’t quite figure out dry shampoo, offer tips on how to care for not-quite-dirty clothes, and try to help a caller track down a vegan and cruelty-free mascara that doesn’t break the bank. Plus: a follow-up to their earlier friendship convo!

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Episode 42: Winter Blues with Dr. Tosin Odunsi-Akanji

This week Kate and Doree discuss survival tips for cold, winter weather, with advice from friends who actually deal with freezing temps, including Forever35 Midwest Correspondent Nora McInerny. Plus Kate embraces “pumpkin candle season” and rediscovers her love of The Ordinary’s retinol serum, and Doree cleans her bathroom and shares her favorite new maternity jeans.

Then they welcome Dr. Tosin Odunsi-Akanji, OB/GYN medical resident and self-described “life motivator.” She talks about making room for self-care while working 12-hour shifts, how to find a mentor, tackling test anxiety, Orange Theory, and how she establishes and meets her short and longterm goals across all aspects of life. Follow her on Instagram @lifebytosin.

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Mini-Episode 33: Finding Friends and Sephora Samples

On this week’s mini-episode Kate and Doree continue the conversation about friendship: feeling isolated from old friends, how to make new ones as an adult, and grieving friendships that end poorly. Plus they listen to a voicemail from a listener loving that Sephora Sample Life, and discuss what products they sampled and loved enough to purchase in a full size.

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Episode 41: Express Yourself with Jessica Hopper

This week Kate and Doree follow up on their own personal Gratitude Challenge, and share what’s bringing them joy in their own lives. Plus Kate commits to a month-long meal plan and reconnects with an old serum favorite, while Doree reveals what pregnancy-safe product she’s now using on her face at night.

Then they welcome Jessica Hopper, music critic and author of the new book Night Moves. She talks about the power of falling in love with a city, the nostalgia she feels for a pre-social media time, sobriety, her love of Mad Hippie Vitamin C Serum, and how speaking out helped her heal after an assault.

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Episode 40: What About Your Friends with Holly Burns

This week Kate and Doree tackle friendship, and discuss how to make friends as an adult, handle the way friendships grow and change over time, and the many ways they contribute to self-care (or occasionally, take away from it). Plus, Kate’s is organizing the products in her bathroom (again) and Doree details her first visit to the OBGYN. They also commit to a shared gratitude practice — but will it last?

Then they welcome Holly Burns, content strategist at Instagram and creator of the popular blog Nothing But Bonfires. Holly talks about being diagnosed with breast cancer just 5 months after giving birth to her second child, the self-care practices she implemented while going through chemo, surgery, and radiation, cold-cap therapy, and the healing power of super-soft cashmere socks.

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Episode 39: Self-Care Isn't Selfish with Dr. Kristian Henderson

This week, Kate talks about meeting a Forever35 fan at the Emmy Awards and reveals the truth about how celebs handle heels. Doree shares all the books she read this week (six, six books in a week!) and how she’s starting to be okay with doing less when she’s not feeling well. Then, the women answer listener questions about planning for kids, dealing with the stress of child rearing, and how to make time for yourself when you’re caring for a family.

Later, Kate and Doree talk to Dr. Kristian Henderson, founder of BLK + GRN and self-care ambassador. Dr. Kristian talks about feeling unfulfilled even when she did everything “right,” how her commitment to healthy living lead to her business, and why she’s passionate about bringing self-care to women of color. Follow her @BLKandGRN on and @DrKrstianH on Instagram.

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Mini-Episode 30: Emmys Glam and Wedding Stress

This week, Kate talks about some new makeup she discovered on her trip to the Emmy’s, a listener gives Doree a hot tip on how to get rid of KP, and the women get lots of voicemails with helpful recommendations for travelling with an array of skin products. Plus, they share some self-care advice for when you’re going through the stress of wedding planning.

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Episode 38: A Grateful Place with Mari Andrew

This week, Kate and Doree are both having a little bit of a tough time. Kate’s dealing with negative self-talk while Doree feels like she’s turning into one big carb from dealing with constant pregnancy nausea. Then, they discuss the baffling trend of the ugliest ‘90s clothes coming back and Kate wonders if she should buy some new scrunchies and Balenciaga sock sneakers.

Later, the women welcome New York Times Best Selling Author and Instagram star, Mari Andrew. She talks about the importance of a gratitude practice in her daily routine, dealing with the loss of her father and a crippling autoimmune disease, and always being on the lookout for things that make her happy. Follow Mari on Instagram @byMariAndrew and get her new book  Am I There Yet?.

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