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Mini-Episode 36: Gym Time and Surviving the Holidays

On this week’s mini-episode Kate and Doree hear from a pair of sister-in-laws who have a question about how to get excited about life changes after grad school, give tips on turning a gym shower into a self-care experience, and hear from a listener looking for advice on getting through the holiday season.

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Episode 44: Sephories Sale Season with Nicole Chung

It’s Sephora Sale season, and this week Kate and Doree breakdown what they might buy with that sweet, sweet discount. (Tubing mascara! A Dr. Jart set! And so much more.) Plus they discuss Kate’s nighttime phone addiction and her new sunrise alarm clock, Doree’s GAP underwear obsession, and the Sunday Riley fake reviews controversy.

Then they welcome All You Can Ever Know author Nicole Chung, who talks about her adoption story and search for her birth family, connecting with other transracial adoptees, finding communities that fulfill you, and how she and her husband juggle parenting and their careers

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Mini-Episode 35: Serum Secrets with Jasmine Guillory

This week Kate and Doree welcome their first guest to the mini-episode world! Jasmine Guillory — lawyer, author of the new book The Proposal, and past Forever35 guest — is back to help answer listener questions about making time for baths, the importance of sunscreening your hands, and growing pains in a friendship. Plus, Jasmine discusses her year-long yoga challenge, daily bath rituals, and how she lets go of guilt.

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Episode 43: Stay Mad with Rebecca Traister

This week Kate and Doree sit down with Rebecca Traister, author of the new book Good and Mad: The Revolutionary Power of Women’s Anger. They talk about living in a world that doesn’t respect women’s anger as serious and worthwhile, the ways in which we repress and express feelings, how to direct and use rage, the #MeToo Movement, and the importance of receiving and listening to the anger of other women.

Plus: Doree’s makes peace with her pregnancy sickness, Kate purges her products and streamlines her skincare routine (again), and they discuss what it would feel like to “spiral positively.” (Imagine it!)

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Mini-Episode 34: Clothing Care and Dry Shampoo

On this week’s mini-episode Kate and Doree hear from a listener who can’t quite figure out dry shampoo, offer tips on how to care for not-quite-dirty clothes, and try to help a caller track down a vegan and cruelty-free mascara that doesn’t break the bank. Plus: a follow-up to their earlier friendship convo!

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Episode 42: Winter Blues with Dr. Tosin Odunsi-Akanji

This week Kate and Doree discuss survival tips for cold, winter weather, with advice from friends who actually deal with freezing temps, including Forever35 Midwest Correspondent Nora McInerny. Plus Kate embraces “pumpkin candle season” and rediscovers her love of The Ordinary’s retinol serum, and Doree cleans her bathroom and shares her favorite new maternity jeans.

Then they welcome Dr. Tosin Odunsi-Akanji, OB/GYN medical resident and self-described “life motivator.” She talks about making room for self-care while working 12-hour shifts, how to find a mentor, tackling test anxiety, Orange Theory, and how she establishes and meets her short and longterm goals across all aspects of life. Follow her on Instagram @lifebytosin.

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Mini-Episode 33: Finding Friends and Sephora Samples

On this week’s mini-episode Kate and Doree continue the conversation about friendship: feeling isolated from old friends, how to make new ones as an adult, and grieving friendships that end poorly. Plus they listen to a voicemail from a listener loving that Sephora Sample Life, and discuss what products they sampled and loved enough to purchase in a full size.

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Episode 41: Express Yourself with Jessica Hopper

This week Kate and Doree follow up on their own personal Gratitude Challenge, and share what’s bringing them joy in their own lives. Plus Kate commits to a month-long meal plan and reconnects with an old serum favorite, while Doree reveals what pregnancy-safe product she’s now using on her face at night.

Then they welcome Jessica Hopper, music critic and author of the new book Night Moves. She talks about the power of falling in love with a city, the nostalgia she feels for a pre-social media time, sobriety, her love of Mad Hippie Vitamin C Serum, and how speaking out helped her heal after an assault.

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Episode 40: What About Your Friends with Holly Burns

This week Kate and Doree tackle friendship, and discuss how to make friends as an adult, handle the way friendships grow and change over time, and the many ways they contribute to self-care (or occasionally, take away from it). Plus, Kate’s is organizing the products in her bathroom (again) and Doree details her first visit to the OBGYN. They also commit to a shared gratitude practice — but will it last?

Then they welcome Holly Burns, content strategist at Instagram and creator of the popular blog Nothing But Bonfires. Holly talks about being diagnosed with breast cancer just 5 months after giving birth to her second child, the self-care practices she implemented while going through chemo, surgery, and radiation, cold-cap therapy, and the healing power of super-soft cashmere socks.

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Episode 39: Self-Care Isn't Selfish with Dr. Kristian Henderson

This week, Kate talks about meeting a Forever35 fan at the Emmy Awards and reveals the truth about how celebs handle heels. Doree shares all the books she read this week (six, six books in a week!) and how she’s starting to be okay with doing less when she’s not feeling well. Then, the women answer listener questions about planning for kids, dealing with the stress of child rearing, and how to make time for yourself when you’re caring for a family.

Later, Kate and Doree talk to Dr. Kristian Henderson, founder of BLK + GRN and self-care ambassador. Dr. Kristian talks about feeling unfulfilled even when she did everything “right,” how her commitment to healthy living lead to her business, and why she’s passionate about bringing self-care to women of color. Follow her @BLKandGRN on and @DrKrstianH on Instagram.

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Mini-Episode 30: Emmys Glam and Wedding Stress

This week, Kate talks about some new makeup she discovered on her trip to the Emmy’s, a listener gives Doree a hot tip on how to get rid of KP, and the women get lots of voicemails with helpful recommendations for travelling with an array of skin products. Plus, they share some self-care advice for when you’re going through the stress of wedding planning.

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Episode 38: A Grateful Place with Mari Andrew

This week, Kate and Doree are both having a little bit of a tough time. Kate’s dealing with negative self-talk while Doree feels like she’s turning into one big carb from dealing with constant pregnancy nausea. Then, they discuss the baffling trend of the ugliest ‘90s clothes coming back and Kate wonders if she should buy some new scrunchies and Balenciaga sock sneakers.

Later, the women welcome New York Times Best Selling Author and Instagram star, Mari Andrew. She talks about the importance of a gratitude practice in her daily routine, dealing with the loss of her father and a crippling autoimmune disease, and always being on the lookout for things that make her happy. Follow Mari on Instagram @byMariAndrew and get her new book  Am I There Yet?.

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Episode 37: Natch Beaut Crossover! with Jackie Johnson

Kate just got back from New York, where she enjoyed a slightly touristy visit to her favorite city in the world. Doree, on the other hand, has been vomiting. Morning sickness is hitting hard, though some sister-recommended medicine is working and she’s adjusting to a vaguely sick-all-the-time feeling. Despite feeling ill, Doree read more than three books in a week and found a cozy mystery series that hasn’t hooked her yet.


Then, the women talk to Jackie Johnson of the Natch Beaut podcast. Jackie talks all about figuring out the difference between vegan and cruelty-free products, getting away from bad people in her life, and the healing powers of her exceptional dog, Chooch. Follow Jackie @JackieMicheleJohnson on Instagram and @Jackie_Michele on Twitter.

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Mini-Episode 28: Long-lasting Eye Liner & YM Magazine

In this week’s episode, Kate and Doree find out the shocking truth behind YM’s confession column from listener’s with insider info. Then, they go into the hard choices that come with travelling with skincare products, recommendations for lasting tightline eyeliner, and the women get a quick tip on dealing with fitted bed sheets.

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Episode 36: Makeup Makeover with Erin Gibson

This week, Kate talks about the struggle to get away from her phone and finally deleting the Facebook app. Doree, on the other hand, is keeping her phone in her room and plowing through the Poldark series (she’s already on book 12!).

Then, the women speak to the wonderful Erin Gibson, host of the Throwing Shade podcast and author of Feminasty. She talks about the insane injusticies of the patriarchy, how women get ignored by doctors, and some shocking facts she found about the makeup industry. Follow Erin @Gibblertron on Twitter and Instagram and buy her book!

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Mini-Episode 27: Periods Aren't Gross!

In this week’s mini-episode, Kate and Doree have a listener question about how to stop using shopping as a soothing mechanism. Then, the women discuss the virtues of menstrual cups vs. tampons, Kate gives out a helpful vag hack, and a listener gives out a new lipstick recommendation.

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Episode 35: Perfecting Imperfection with Keiko Agena

Doree and Kate are just back from camp where they shared a cabin, a bed, and a trendy but see-through bathroom. While at The Wing’s No Man’s Land Camp, the women did their first live podcast and Kate dealt with her social anxiety in an easy and open way. Then, Doree shares that she’s in the very early stages of pregnancy! Afterwards, Kate and Doree go through some products that they did not love, including a few major fan favorites.

Later, the women welcome actress and author Keiko Agena (No Mistakes). She talks about the majority of her acting work going unseen, dealing with finding social connections in adulthood, and the good things that fandom can bring. Follow her @keikoagena on Instagram and watch her on Season 4 of Better Call Saul and the upcoming Dirty John and Hulu’s The First.

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