You Ask, We Answer: Let’s Get Some Shoes
Listeners show up with cute shoe recommendations for wide toe boxes and plantar fasciitis, drugstore nighttime skincare, and curly hair prods and routines. Doree and Elise also chat about the need for mistakes, whimsy, and surprise and some morning intentions!
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Doree Shafrir (00:10):
Hello and welcome to Forever 35, a podcast about the things we do to take care of ourselves. I'm Doree Shafrir.
Elise Hu (00:18):
And I'm Elise Hu, and we're just two friends who like to talk a lot about serums.
Doree Shafrir (00:22):
And this is a You Ask We Answer episode where we get to all of your questions, comments, feedback, concerns, observations, thoughts, et cetera.
Elise Hu (00:34):
And it sounds like we have a lot. We have a lot of your concerns, thoughts, observations, questions teed up for you.
Doree Shafrir (00:40):
Yeah, we had a lot of people write or call in about plantar fasciitis.
Elise Hu (00:45):
Oh yeah. Yeah.
Doree Shafrir (00:46):
We also have a lot of great responses to the question about getting a drugstore moisturizer.
Elise Hu (00:53):
Oh, great.
Doree Shafrir (00:54):
So a lot of good responses.
Elise Hu (00:57):
You know what I want? This happens to me every once in a while too. I would like to have kind of go-to drugstore brands for when I forget something and I'm in a different city. So often I wound up in St. Louis or Reno. I'm just listing places where the volleyball tournaments are.
(01:16):
Oh my Gosh. Kansas City, Salt Lake City, Orlando, Minneapolis. And in any of those cities, you can get anything you forget, but I often only need a travel sized or a drug store moisturizer or a travel sized cleanser or whatever because I just happen to have run out of my mini one that I pack with me or I just forgot or fell out of my bag last time, whatever. So it would be good to make a list of drugstore go-tos for when I'm in a pinch, when we're all in a pinch. So I'm interested to hear what moisturizers have made your cuts as listeners.
Doree Shafrir (01:54):
I love that. Okay.
Elise Hu (01:58):
And a reminder for those of y'all who haven't sent in questions yet, we have Dr. Jenny Wang, dermatologist, dermatologist here in Los Angeles and former Forever 35 guest. She's coming back on the show to answer your skin and skin related skin care, skin issue questions. She's here for that. And we'd love to hear your questions either in voice memo form so we can play them for her or you can just text or email them to our regular spots, forever35podcast@gmail.com or our voicemail number 781-591-0390. 781-591-0390.
Doree Shafrir (02:42):
Yeah, we've gotten a lot of great questions so far, so keep them coming.
Elise Hu (02:46):
And of course we want questions for us too.
Doree Shafrir (02:48):
Yeah.
Elise Hu (02:49):
So don't leave us
Doree Shafrir (02:49):
Out. That goes without saying. Yeah. Elise, we got a question for you that said, "Any Abe news and what's the status of the documentary? How can we support?"
Elise Hu (03:04):
Oh, thanks for asking. Thanks for asking about Abe. Haven't seen Abe since the beginning of June. It's so sad. Ava had this friend who is allergic to cats and they were hanging out a couple weeks ago and the friend said, "I can't come over because of the cat." Oh
Doree Shafrir (03:20):
No. And
Elise Hu (03:20):
Then Ava started crying. Ava just really lost it and she's like, "I didn't expect when I was going to start crying about Abe because it just hit her that we're now without a cat." They
Doree Shafrir (03:33):
Have
Elise Hu (03:34):
Never known a time where there hasn't been a cat in this house. Since Ava was born and then Issa and then subsequently Luna, there have been cats always too. Usually almost always two until Cesar passed. So our cat Caesar, who had been with me for 16 years, he died in 2021 and after that it was just Abe. And now this is the first time we don't hear the sound of soft paws padding around in the
Doree Shafrir (03:59):
House.
Elise Hu (03:59):
And I just can't, because of the way that Abe disappeared, so for listeners who are just catching up, Abe, my cat, my beloved cat since 2019, tuxedo cat, so handsome, so small, he's like 11 pounds. He suns himself in the backyard and has always been able to go back there in and out. And he's been safe the entire time that he's been with us in two different homes, in another house that we lived in in Los Angeles. And then here since 2022, just one day disappeared. One Friday went out into the backyard, this cleaner saw him go into the backyard and nobody has seen him since. We thought maybe some neighbors had called after we canvased the entire neighborhood and put up signs and some neighbors had called and said they spotted a black and white cat on a fence. And we went to that very fence 10 minutes later, saw nothing.
(04:57):
There were neighbors who were sending in their Ring camera footage of other black and white cats. They were not Abe. So Abe himself, I have not seen any photographic evidence or live evidence of since that morning. And so the family assumes he must have gotten snatched, like somebody catnapped him or coyote got him because there have been coyotes in the neighborhood. There's just been a lot of coyotes kind of inland and down from the hills in Los Angeles ever since the fires. And there's wildlife, there's urban wildlife in these cities, whether the fires had happened or not. So yeah, we don't know where he is and I'm going to have to prepare some sort of goodbye ritual because I think it's really hard. We were talking about this at dinner last night or the night before, humans need ritual. It's really important. And so we're going to do some sort of memorial and maybe take apart his kitty Izakiah together.
(05:57):
So a few years ago during the Forever 35 gift guide, I promoted something that Abe really loves, which is a little kitty house, but it's painted and decorated like an Izakia, like a Japanese Izakaya. And he could stick his face in it. And when it was in it, he looked like a sushi chef. It was really cute because it had. It's like one of those boards with the cutout for your face. So cute. I love his Izakaya and I just couldn't look at it after he was gone. I
Doree Shafrir (06:24):
Think we put it in the Forever 35 gift guide once.
Elise Hu (06:28):
Yeah. It's on our Instagram and Abe's on our Instagram as a result, but we're going to take apart the Izakiah and then talk about our Abe memories. I meant to do it before school started, but it's been hard to just even do it, plan to have everybody come together and do it because I know what it means. It means we're really saying goodbye to Abe and that's hard, but I
(06:51):
Don't think that we can go on as a family or I would be able to go on just as a pet owner and a cat lover with another cat in our lives without really saying goodbye to Abe. I've never lost a pet this way. This is so strange. The mystery of it makes the grief tougher. So thank you for asking. I've gotten really nice messages from a lot of y'all about Abe. Thank you. And he's so special and he will always be remembered as my smartest and most interesting cat. And then the documentary, we are heads down in what's called post-production, which is the part where we're just putting together the film and it's really exciting. I'm getting scenes sent to me almost every day. We're getting assemblies of the characters.
(07:39):
Again, for new listeners, it's called Wind Swept and it's about four kids, teenagers who were all displaced by the January 2025 Los Angeles wildfires. And they're from the east side and the west side and they're Black and brown and Asian and they were all in different phases of their lives. They're as young as 12, as old as 17, and myself and the camera crews, we have followed them since January. And we've been there for mundane things and milestones, and now we're putting together a film about how they're coping. We would love your support and need your support actually, because this is a scrappy documentary. And we had won, we'd gone and pitched at all the networks in March of 2025, which was amazing that we got all those meetings set at the HBOs and the Apple TVs. The reason why we're pitching was to try and get a commission to essentially have these networks say, "All right, good idea.
(08:32):
Here's money for you to make it."
(08:34):
The networks didn't commission it, which means we have to bootstrap it like we're making it, and then we're going to try and sell it back to them later after we have already spent money. So I think nearly 200 people individually have crowdfunded or have contributed to the crowdfund. So if you would like to contribute, it's windsweptfilm.com. We would love. And a lot of the donors are like 10 bucks. Just pitching in I think matters a lot. And I think that it helps us too when we're writing grants, grant applications to say, "Hey, all these individuals really support it, so we'd love your support."
Doree Shafrir (09:10):
All right. We are going to hear a voicemail.
Listener Voicemail (09:13):
Hi. I have been meaning to call in with a callback to something that Elise said that really struck me, and I wrote it down. She said, and this is about happiness and wholeness. She said, "We've been told happiness is something you can buy or get as some sort of external accomplishment where to me, I want my life to feel whole. I want myself to feel psychologically whole, to have purpose and meaning. It doesn't always mean being happy all the time. Psychological wholeness means really wrestling with grief and pain and all the things that make us human. So I want to be very human ultimately." And I think that's a really important reminder as we go through hard days or easy days, et cetera, to go for wholeness and the full human experience over just happiness and getting what we want and external accomplishments. Thanks guys.
(10:17):
Bye.
Elise Hu (10:17):
I hear her read that back and I'm like, "Did I say that?"
Doree Shafrir (10:20):
Elise, you're very profound.
Elise Hu (10:21):
I wonder when I said that, but it does ring true. It tracks, and I think it took probably 40 years to learn that. But what I wanted to add is that especially now in this time of transformative AI technologies that are making things smoother and more efficient
(10:44):
And requiring us to ask ourselves what our value is as human beings, I'm actually leaning even harder to mistakes and whimsy and surprise and pain because. And obviously AI is not a sentient being and these AI tools are not sentient, but I think what the tools overall do is offer this promise of smoothness and shortcuts and things getting faster. And what I think about beauty in the world is that so much of beauty is a little bit off. It's surprising. It's blemishes. It's not taking the most efficient route from point A to point B. It's the meandering. And so holding onto our humanity, especially in this time is really valuable and necessary. I love that. I love that.
Doree Shafrir (11:42):
All right. Well, before we take a little break, as we mentioned at the top of the show, you can call us at 781-591-0390. You can text us at that number or you can email us at forever35podcast@gmail.com. Our website is forever35podcast.com. We have links there to everything we mention on the show. We are also on Instagram @forever35podcast. Please join our Patreon at patreon.com/forever35. It really helps keep the podcast going, having all the support on Patreon. So you can support us at the $5 a month level, get access to our weekly casual chat, which is kind of like the top of the show, and we do that on video now, which is really fun. We also do live casual chats every few months. We have a community chat on our Patreon app. We have our monthly pop culture recommendation episodes. It's really fun. It's a lot of great bonus content.
(12:41):
And then at $10 a month, you can get ad-free episodes, and you get a shout-out as a thank you on the podcast each and every month. You can also shop our favorite products at shopmy.us/forever35. And when we come back, we have a lot of plantar fasciitis.
Elise Hu (12:58):
That's great, because I didn't really know. I haven't suffered from it, so I can't wait.
Doree Shafrir (13:02):
Get ready. Okay. All right. I think a lot of these wrecks are just good for anyone who wants to wear comfortable shoes.
Elise Hu (13:10):
Okay,
Doree Shafrir (13:10):
Great. Which, I mean, I'm on board with.
Elise Hu (13:13):
Who doesn't? Right.
Doree Shafrir (13:14):
Who doesn't? All right. We are going to take a short break and we will be right back.
Elise Hu (13:19):
We'll be right back.
Doree Shafrir (13:27):
Okay, we are back. Elise, do you want to take this first one?
Elise Hu (13:32):
Okay, sure. Writing in for the listener that has plantar fasciitis PF. Here are some things that have helped me as someone who has a rare form of arthritis. At one point I had PF for two years straight. It was hell as every step felt like I was walking on broken bones. One, I highly recommend going to physical therapy to learn exercises that can help strengthen your feet, arches, and legs. The silly exercises really do make a difference. Two, my physical therapist recommended this hard spiky ball. It hurts so good. We will link to it, folks. Three, my orthopedic doctor recommended these cheap $12 rubber slides from Costco to wear as slippers around the house. No need for the spendy ones from the name brands. We will also link to that and shout out Costco. Four, even with all that, I ended up needing cortisone injections in my heels.
(14:22):
I recommend getting them from an orthopedic or sports medicine doctor who utilizes MSK ultrasound to help guide the injections. Thanks to the ultrasound guidance, the injections were merely a pinch of pain. Afterwards, you have to avoid strenuous activities for a few days. My first round of injections lasted nearly a year and probably would've lasted longer if it weren't for my autoimmune type of arthritis. Good luck.
Doree Shafrir (14:45):
Okay. I'm intrigued by the hard spiky ball. I
Elise Hu (14:50):
Love the $12 Costco slides.
Doree Shafrir (14:53):
Yeah, I
Elise Hu (14:53):
Have a pair of
Doree Shafrir (14:55):
Those. Oh, well, there you go.
Elise Hu (14:56):
Yeah.
Doree Shafrir (14:59):
Okay. This next one has a ton of brand recommendations, which I love. We'll put these all in our ShopMy shelf. All right. Listener wrote, "I heard the call for brands that are cute and support feet with plantar fasciitis and had to write in because I've dealt with this a lot myself since having kids. We've come a long way in the last 10 years, and there are cute shoes that feel good. Key is to find soft, but significant arch support and a wide toe box." See, I am here for the wide toe box. All right. Cute sandals and dress shoes. Dansko. There's more than just clogs. The cuter options have less support like the ballerina sneaker. The sandals with high heels are great for dressing up. Soft walk. These are variable. From no support and hard soul to the best ever. Try the Maybelle for closed toe cute platforms.
(15:52):
Sanita, similar to Dansko, very cute fisherman sandals. Margreth and Hart are the style names, I believe. Elegria, interesting European style shoes. They also have the Ode Flip-Flop, which is my absolute favorite. I have seven pairs.
Listener Voicemail (16:10):
They
Doree Shafrir (16:10):
Also have really cute boots, adjustable sandals, and actual patent leather high heels. Runners up. Sketchers work if they are arch fit or have a slight heel elevation, but run long. Aerosols have some platform chunky heels that I adore. The crossover strap styles feel best for my wide feet. Generally, their shoes do not have enough arch support for me. Naturalizer also often works, but the arch support is hit or miss. Sometimes the lack of padding is a problem. Now the category is recovery sandals/shoes when everything else hurts. Oofoos on a really bad day, their shoes are all I can wear. They're a little too soft for every day, but the recovery sandals, sneakers, and slipper-like varieties feel like heaven during a flare-up. Revitalign on Amazon, they make a harder and wider recovery sandal that feels good when oofoos are too soft. Sneakers. Kuru is a brand marketed specifically for plantar fasciitis.
(17:06):
I haven't found the right size, but they have nice sneakers and sandals. Hoka is my go-to walking shoe and Asics Gel Kayano used to be my favorite.
Elise Hu (17:15):
Okay.
Doree Shafrir (17:16):
All right.
Elise Hu (17:17):
Very helpful. Very
Doree Shafrir (17:18):
Helpful. Elise, do you want to take this next one?
Elise Hu (17:22):
Okay. And again, we will put everything in our ShopMyShop and also in the show notes. Hi, Doree and Elise. I am writing in for the caller with plantar fasciitis and shoe recommendations. I have had plantar fasciitis many times in the past, and I have found that wearing shoes with good arch support is key to not getting it. Also, try to limit being barefoot as much as possible. Vionic shoes offer a ton of options from sneakers to heels, flat sandals, and even slippers all with arch support. They aren't cheap, but well worth the money to prevent a flare-up. Also, I have good luck with Oofos as well, but they are definitely way less attractive. When I do have a flare-up, it helps for me to sleep with my foot in a support brace to keep my foot stretched, and she links us to a support brace.
(18:10):
Hope this is helpful. It is very helpful. Thank you so much.
Doree Shafrir (18:15):
Okay. We got a text that said, "I had plantar fasciitis when at 31 in 2011, my high arch feet decided I could not live in flat flip-flops and converse alone. While cortisone shots from the podiatrist helped with immediate pain, wearing Danskos, which have a very substantial arch, helped with long-term healing. Style-wise, I love a clog and over the years I've always found Dansko sandals and boots I love besides the regular clog style, though I realize they may not be everyone's cup of tea. The price point is also not cheap, though. I've found they hold up extremely well if I take good care of them. I'd also recommend getting fitted for sneakers at a local running shop if you have one. I'm literally never running, but recently did this because my feet are hard to fit. Large wide toe box and that high arch. And at 46, I find there are times my feet just need more support for long walks and travel.
(19:07):
It was really helpful. They did a whole diagnostic thing and it was still tough for the specialist to find a shoe that wasn't too tight, but finally one new balance emerged. Admittedly, they are not cute. The cool color combos never come in 11 wide ug, but they do feel amazing for when I need serious support when regular sneakers that look cute and are fine for day-to-day simply don't cut it. I also believe insurance will often cover custom orthotics from the podiatrist, which might help the listeners wear shoes they already like, but add support. Hope this helps. Thank you. I like the getting fitted recommendation. That is super helpful. I'm going to play a voicemail with some shoe wrecks. Here we go.
Listener Voicemail (19:51):
Great. Hello, Doree and Elise. My name is Jessica, calling from Texas. I actually had to just pause the pod on the most recent episode where people were asking for cute and comfy footwear. So I want to put a recommendation out there for a brand called Nobull, that's N-O-B-U-L-L. The website is nobullproject.com, but I have two different of their styles. So one style is for training, like training in the gym, weight training. The reason why I like it is because instead of a fabric top or woven top to the sneaker, the top of the sneaker is this polyester blend. And so ostensibly it's for protecting your feet if you happen to drop the weight, but I like it because it's rainproof. And I've taken my pair that are bright pink. When we traveled to Spain, we did a lot of walking, it rained intermittently, and my feet didn't feel wet.
(20:55):
They also have another style that is a hybrid style meant for both gym and walking. This is a thicker cushion, so perhaps it's better for someone who gets blisters, but it also comes in a multitude of colors. Even though it has more of a fabric top, it's really easy to spot clean and it's easy to match with outfits. So I recommend those. And also more importantly, they very often do 25 to 50% off sales so you can really catch a sale and get one or both pairs. The other thing is that they are compatible with orthotic inserts. So for whoever was asking about plantar fasciitis, you could have your podiatrist write a prescription for an orthotic insert and then insert that into any shoe you want if you can't find an actual orthotic shoe that looks nice and is fashionable as well.
Doree Shafrir (21:44):
Love these Rex. Thank you. I
Elise Hu (21:45):
Hadn't heard of that brand.
Doree Shafrir (21:47):
Me neither. Okay. Last message on this was for a woman named Laney Inlander who is a stylist, and this listener says every year or maybe every season, she puts out a list of her top comfortable shoes for work. So we will link to that in the show notes in our website. And this listener says, "I think she usually has great advice." Amazing. All
Listener Voicemail (22:13):
Right.
Doree Shafrir (22:14):
Thank you so much for all of those suggestions. We are going to take another short break, and when we come back, we have some drug store moisturizer recommendations plus some curly hair care
Elise Hu (22:26):
Recommendations. Yay. Oh, Isa will be thrilled. Okay, fantastic.
Doree Shafrir (22:30):
All right. We'll be right back.
Elise Hu (22:32):
We'll be right back. Okay, welcome back, and we are going to read some emails about drugstore moisturizers. Hi Forever 35 community. I wanted to write in with a recommendation for the listener who asks about nighttime face creams and moisturizers for the upcoming fall and winter seasons. A brand I've really come to love since I started using it in my mid - 20s, and now I'm in my early 30s, is Pacifica. They are a vegan and cruelty-free brand that has a great price point, plus cute packaging, and they make great cleansers and moisturizers for all skin types and times of day. The nighttime cream I've been using since last fall is their vegan collagen night cream. It has a light scent that reminds me of lilacs, and it seems strong at first, but wears off quickly. The cream is very smooth and hydrating, and I swear that using it even just once a week has improved my skin texture and made everything softer.
(23:31):
I highly recommend it. It's less than $30 a jar, and again, depending on how often you use it, it lasts a long time. Thanks for the pod. Sending love as a yoga teacher from Oregon. Yeah, I have tried Pacifica stuff because they have gifted it to us. I want to say that they've offered some samples as part of our ShopMy Collab, and so yeah, Pacifica is a great suggestion. I wouldn't have thought of that on my own, so thank you, yoga teacher in Oregon.
Doree Shafrir (24:05):
Okay. Next suggestion. Someone is suggesting CeraVe's Skin Renewing Night Cream. I use it year round in Atlanta, but I could see being a good transition out of summer product as well. The tubs are 15.49 at Target right now and they last several months. It's perfect. This listener also wanted to recommend a volunteer activity that she and her husband have started. "We've both recently lost our jobs, and when the stress and fear sets in, we head to the animal shelter to walk dogs. You can't productively job hunt all day every day, and it's such a hit of joy to give the dogs a walk and a sunshine break. Good for us to move outside too. If you can't foster or adopt a dog right now but want to do something, this is a great choice."
Elise Hu (24:50):
That's such a good idea. That's such a good idea. I used to do that for the St. Louis Humane Society when I was a little girl, because my dad wouldn't let us get a dog until I was 12, but I always wanted a dog. And so my mom was like, "Okay, well, as a third way, as a compromise, we can volunteer."
Doree Shafrir (25:08):
I was going through the volunteer training for the LA shelter system, but it was right when I got pregnant with Henry, and I was so sick that
(25:21):
I just kind of dropped it, and then I was pregnant, and then I had a baby, and then right when I was just getting back into feeling like a human, COVID hit. And then I just lost the thread. But yeah, this is a really good suggestion and a good recommendation. All right. We have another listener recommending the L'Oreal Collagen Moisture Filler. You can get a fragrance-free version. It comes in a larger small jar, and the large is less than $20 online. "I used to spend so much money on face moisturizer, and then life happened, and my habits had to change. I'm back on my feet and not switching back. I like it that much." Wow. Okay. And then we also have a voicemail.
Listener Voicemail (26:10):
Okay. Just wanted to send a quick voice note about affordable skincare because someone was asking for a moisturizer that is under $20. I just wanted to share that I have been using the CVS brand Dupe for La Roche Pose, and it's $18. Plus, if you buy the CVS CarePath, I think it's 599 a month, you get 20% off of all CVS brand items, and you get a $10 credit every month. So just wanted to recommend that moisturizer. I use it day and night. It's really good.
Doree Shafrir (26:46):
Wow. Hot tips.
Elise Hu (26:48):
Yeah. Have you tried the CVS dupes for La Roche Pose? I have not. Okay.
Doree Shafrir (26:53):
Have you?
Elise Hu (26:54):
I didn't even realize they duped La Roche Pose. I know that Trader Joe's has a number of dupes for various, but I didn't know that they did that. I mean, I didn't know that CVS had that line, which is awesome. Great.
Doree Shafrir (27:05):
Okay. All right. Someone else is recommending Bioma.
Elise Hu (27:11):
Oh, yes. My kids love Bioma.
Doree Shafrir (27:14):
Yeah, it's one of those Gen Alpha brands, but it's good to know that it's actually good.
Elise Hu (27:19):
Yeah, it's an under $25 moisturizer and excellent at this cost, says our listener.
Listener Voicemail (27:25):
Great.
Elise Hu (27:26):
Before we get into a curly hair voicemail, we mentioned Ever Eden, that brand Ever Eden in our last US We Answer episode, and there's another Ever Eden shout out from today's caller who says, "Ever Eden has the best kids' shampoo and conditioner. It's magic on my daughter's long, tangly hair. Love the chlorine shampoo too. Didn't know they had stuff for adults. Expensive, but worth every penny. Bath times are no longer a battle, and just enough scent to know your kid is clean." Yeah, I like a nice subtle scent. Subtle. Okay. Ever Eden. Yeah, because somebody had recommended the Ever Eden sunscreen previously, and it sounds like they have great shampoo and conditioner as well.
Doree Shafrir (28:13):
Yes. All right. One last voicemail.
Listener Voicemail (28:20):
Hi, Doree and Elise. This is Katie calling from Oregon, and I just had to call in with some tips about curly hair. I have very curly hair. I'm 39, and I finally learned how to do it and take care of it about three years ago. One thing I wanted to let you guys know about is this amazing gel that I've been using. It's by Ouidad or Ouidad, O-U-I-D-A-D is the brand. And the type of gel is called Advanced Climate Control Heat and Humidity Gel. This is an amazing gel. It gives me really great definition, which I love, and it kind of makes my hair look a little bit longer than it typically would if it dried and scrunched a little bit more. I really like that too. I've been using this for a couple of months to beat the summer humidity, and it's really fantastic.
(29:30):
I can get five, sometimes even six good days out of a good shampoo and gel application with this gel. This is the stronger gel. There is a lighter version of the climate control, but I really like this advanced one. I have to shout out where they taught me to take care of my curls. I go to a salon A curly hair salon in Beaverton, Oregon. It's called the Curly Hair Studio, and it is owned by a woman named Atoya Bass. And I really think people should check her Instagram out. She puts amazing videos up. She really emphasizes minimalism when it comes to taking care of your curls, really emphasizing the importance of hydration and just making sure your curls are hydrated so that they stay nice and curly and hold product really well. I see Seggi over there. Shout out to Seggi. She does my hair.
(30:42):
And it's just super easy. It's a good shampoo. It's a good conditioner. The only product I use is gel. And so it really eliminates a lot of confusion that can come with a lot of curly hair products. So yeah, I think people should check her Instagram out. She puts fantastic stuff out. And if anybody is in the Portland Metro area, definitely try to go get an appointment at the salon. They are amazing.
Elise Hu (31:13):
Very cool. Love that. I have already Googled and favorited this product that you recommended so that this from Wedod, the Advanced Climate Control Antifraze Heat and Humidity Gel. So I have saved it and I'm going to show it to Issa and see if she wants to give it a try.
Doree Shafrir (31:34):
I have been trying to just let the slight wave of my hair happen.
Elise Hu (31:40):
Just let it exist.
Doree Shafrir (31:41):
Just let it exist. And it's been working because when my hair is fully wet, it does look quite wavy, much more wavy. And then when it dries, it kind of loses some of the wave. But I feel like this is a decent amount of wave.
Elise Hu (31:58):
Happy
Doree Shafrir (31:59):
With this wave.
Elise Hu (32:00):
Yeah. For those of y'all who can't see Doree, it's this kind of tousold beach wave
Doree Shafrir (32:05):
Situation. It's a tousled beach wave. Yep. All right. Well, thank you all so much for all of your thoughts.
Elise Hu (32:13):
Yeah, we got a lot of great voice messages
Doree Shafrir (32:16):
And emails. Yep. We are entering the intention zone.
Elise Hu (32:23):
Doree, your last week. I don't really remember what you intended specifically. Was it just to get into a morning routine?
Doree Shafrir (32:33):
It was because my son's school is on the other side of town and coming home at 8:00 AM is annoying. Oh, that's right. Because it's height of rush hour, tons of traffic. So I have been trying to figure out stuff to do on that side of town.
Elise Hu (32:50):
How's that going? It's
Doree Shafrir (32:51):
Been going really well. I had breakfast with a friend yesterday. I had coffee with another friend on Friday. I played tennis on Monday. So yeah, really making an. And I think it's good for me too because it forces me to be a little bit social because I have an excuse to reach out to people on the east side. So it's been really nice.
Listener Voicemail (33:18):
Good.
Doree Shafrir (33:19):
So that's been good. And then for this week, I'm going to kind of continue on the same theme, but I want to find some classes and studios on the east side so I could go to a yoga class or I need to do that level of exploration for that 8:30 to 10:00 AM.
Elise Hu (33:47):
Oh, I'm
Doree Shafrir (33:47):
Sure. Yeah.
Elise Hu (33:48):
I'm
Doree Shafrir (33:48):
Sure there's
Elise Hu (33:48):
Classes that start at nine, so that'd be perfect.
Doree Shafrir (33:52):
How about you?
Elise Hu (33:54):
All right. So my intention last week was to do some IRL catch-ups. And so what I did was, which is kind of in line, it aligns with what you were doing too over on the east side. I have invited friends to come and work from my coworking space in Venice so that I can catch up with them and get some work done at the same time because as I mentioned, I've been deep in post-production, just have to watch a lot of scenes. And it's gone great. It's basically been kind of posting up office hours and people can come and go and people can take their own calls wherever they need. And I don't necessarily just work side by side with my friends. They'll just come, tap in, we'll maybe have a coffee together and then they're off in some private room doing a call or another friend had a board meeting.
(34:41):
And so that's been really great because there were a lot of folks that I hadn't seen for several summer months because our vacations just didn't line up and they were gone when I was here and all of that. This week, I'm starting to get cranky already about morning time and getting up so early. I don't think I can go to bed any earlier just because there's just so much stuff going on at night. And then often I'm out and can't come back and wind down and all those things in time to get enough sleep for the morning. So I want my mornings to be more pleasant. I don't know if that means putting Ava on a city bus because we are looking at like, oh, what is the route just to have Ava ride the bus to
Doree Shafrir (35:21):
School? Along those lines, the friend that I had breakfast with yesterday, she was saying that her son, her older son who's in seventh grade, she was like, "He's been riding the city bus to school." I feel like if we lived in New York, it wouldn't even be a question. My friend's kids who are nine ride the city bus to school.
Elise Hu (35:40):
Yeah. No, and tons of Isa's friends who started middle school, their parents just can't drive them. So they're just taking the city bus to school. And I'm like, "Why doesn't Ava do that as an eighth grader? Why doesn't she just do that?" One of the reasons is last time we looked into it, there's a change and the buses don't run as reliably as I'd like or with as many. There's not as many buses running at any given time as I would like. And so if she misses one of the bus transfers, then she could be potentially late.
Listener Voicemail (36:12):
So
Elise Hu (36:14):
I don't know. I don't know what the answer is. I don't know if it's putting Ava on the bus, but I need to work on having more pleasant mornings because it sets the tone for the rest of my day. And then I was pissy this morning and so then I wasn't creative when I needed to lock in for an editing session. And it's just, I got to change my mornings. That's
Doree Shafrir (36:33):
My intention. Okay. Looks like we both have some morning intentions happening.
Elise Hu (36:38):
Yeah. Yes, we
Doree Shafrir (36:39):
Do. So love that. All right everybody, thank you so much. Forever 35 is hosted and produced by me, Doree Shafrir, Elise Hu, and produced and edited by Samee Junio. Sami Reed is our project manager and our network partner is Acast. Thanks so much for listening.
Elise Hu (36:53):
Talk to you next time.
Doree Shafrir (36:54):
Bye.