It’s almost Kate’s birthday (at the time of recording)! She’s leading a gratitude challenge, which has helped her overall happiness. And with this new positive thinking, Kate sets a goal to get ripped before she turns 40.

Also, Doree talks about beating the ungodly heat of LA, some new makeup, and her dog’s adorable safety booties. Then, the women speak to Alexis Tirado, an award winning writer and head of Pero Like on Buzzfeed. She discusses her love of perfume, church as self-care, and how to keep going when you’re faced with rejection. Find her @AlexisTT on Twitter and @AlexisTT on Instagram.