Kate and Doree jump right into questions and talk about a listener who feels behind in life at 30 and wants a career change. Then, they discuss some steps to take when depression hits and your typical self-care isn’t cutting it and get a listener recommendation for cozy mystery reads. Lastly, the women ponder a very intricate thought experiment that involves a plane flying Idris Elba, must-have make up, and being rescued by Michelle Obama and Oprah.

This episode Kate and Doree go deep into mental health. They talk about the stigma that still exists around anxiety and depression, SSRIs, and how to find the right therapist for you (at least one that won't fall asleep during a session). Plus, Kate shares her first ever positive experience with a psychiatrist and Doree tells all about the Broadway dance class that's made it into her self-care routine.

Then, the women have the pleasure of speaking to Amy Spalding, author The Summer of Jordi Perez (And the Best Burger in Los Angeles). Amy talks about balancing a full time job and a thriving writing career, staying body positive when you're surrounded by body negativity, her love of lipstick, and why she'll never say goodbye to Grey's Anatomy. Follow Amy at @theames on Twitter and @thatames on Instagram.