Mini-Ep 460: The New Mom Jeans
Doree and Elise have (just one!) dish towel rec, lots of listener recs for comfy-but-stylish mom jeans, and laser hair removal insight from listeners who’ve done it.
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Doree Shafrir (00:10):
Hello and welcome to Forever35, a podcast about the things we do to take care of ourselves. I'm Doree Shafrir.
Elise Hu (00:17):
And I'm Elise Hu. And we're just two friends who like to talk a lot about serums,
Doree Shafrir (00:22):
And this is a mini episode where we hear from you, we share your comments and your thoughts, and we answer your questions to the best of our ability. But please do remember, we are podcast hosts. We are not experts. We do always encourage you to seek support first and foremost, from medical and or mental health professional as needed,
Elise Hu (00:40):
And just a teaser, we don't have any dish towel or rag content today. I think that phase has passed though. We got a lot of helpful suggestions and I always love discovering what our community is going to be interested in and what gets y'all to call in and dish rags or just rags generally really led to a bounty, a bounty of calls.
Doree Shafrir (01:04):
It honestly did, and I have not actually purchased any, but I feel like that day will come soon.
Elise Hu (01:14):
Last summer when it was more dish towel focused, I got super sold on the geometry dish towels that some of the callers recommended, and now my house is full of these geometry towels and I've even purchased and used our own geometry code.
Doree Shafrir (01:33):
Oh my God,
Elise Hu (01:34):
I love that. I think we still have a geometry code that's available if you want to get into these dish towels, but I chose the ones with the little lemons on 'em and then so cute. They've really brightened up my kitchen and then I like the ones that are kind of checked. They have checked ones in various colors. Geometry still is offering 15% off, which I have personally taken advantage of by using the code forever15, so just forever15 for 15% off these badass dish towels or kitchen towels. And just as I was teasing that we weren't going to have this content, I've just gone on a riff about it, so stop.
Doree Shafrir (02:09):
I was just going to say, Elise, I'm done. We're doing the thing. We're doing the thing we said we wouldn't do.
Elise Hu (02:17):
Yep, totally. Whoops. Anyway, what else is happening? What's going on in your week?
Doree Shafrir (02:25):
I am trying to get my life together.
Elise Hu (02:28):
Yes. Feel that. I feel that. Wait, there was a time, and maybe we need to close the loop on this. There was a time when you and Matt were working on this together, right? Like, Hey, we're going to have some planning.
Doree Shafrir (02:39):
Yes. So yeah, I would say Matt and I are on the same page. We came to the realization, and this is a realization we've had before, but I think now we both really feel it, that the clutter in our home is sort of holding us back mentally and literally. So I know people have very mixed feelings about our friend chat, GPT, but I did find some good prompts for asking chat GBT to help with a decluttering and organizing plan.
Elise Hu (03:25):
Oh,
Doree Shafrir (03:25):
Cool, cool. And so I have asked it for some help. It gave me a plan. It also gave me a plan to get my professional life together, so I'm really just leaning on it for helping me get my shit together.
Elise Hu (03:40):
Yeah. Yeah. I looked up, so I've been very concerned about melting icebergs with chat GBT searches, and then I saw this chart that showed how much water is used when you use chat GPT versus eating a hamburger and still beef and just eating beef is way worse for the climate. You
Doree Shafrir (04:03):
Know what? I don't eat beef, so I feel like I'm offsetting. Right. That's your offset. Yeah. My offset is I don't eat meat. So
Elise Hu (04:12):
That's your upset.
Doree Shafrir (04:14):
I feel no guilt now
Elise Hu (04:15):
You Yeah, exactly. You got yourself plenty of searches out of that. Exactly. Whereas every time I go to Shake Shack, boy, I'm like, right, you've lost five searches. Exactly. I'm forfeiting my right to search for a couple of years. I mean, it's that out of mean. The chart that I looked at was really wildly out of proportion in terms of how much beef costs us in terms of water and resource use versus these data centers. Not that data centers is taking over all of the
Doree Shafrir (04:47):
No, I mean, it's all bad
Elise Hu (04:48):
Use land on earth. It's
Doree Shafrir (04:50):
All bad.
(04:51)
It's all bad. Exactly. Yeah. But I feel very strongly that I need a reset and it needs to start with clearing out my home and having my home be a more sort of harmonious place. And I'm also sort of coming up with ways to maybe get a job, maybe get more work, really reaching out to my contacts. I had a call with a friend today who has, I've known her for a long time and she's always super helpful just to bounce ideas off of. I had reached out saying, I would love your advice. I did legit want to catch up. And we did spend the first half of our conversation just catching up. Our kids are also almost exactly the same age. They're like three weeks
Elise Hu (05:47):
Apart.
Doree Shafrir (05:48):
Oh, okay. Love that. And also they lead parallel lives. They're very similar and it's interesting to just hear about that. Anyway,
Doree Shafrir (05:56):
And then
Doree Shafrir (05:58):
I was at the end of the call, I was like, I don't want to feel like I need an excuse to just chat with you. I love chatting with you. And she was like, text me anytime. If you're out for a walk and you just want to chat, just text me and we'll chat. And I think I need that reminder.
Elise Hu (06:16):
Yeah. I love it when that happens. And it sounds like in addition to catching up, you also can get some advice and counsel.
Doree Shafrir (06:23):
Yes. And she had some great ideas of some people I could reach out to who I know, but do you know what I mean? And she was like, yeah. She was like, oh, you know this person. Why don't you ask her about blah blah, blah? And I was like, oh, that's such a good idea. We actually have a sort of work-related question, voicemail that I want to play before we take a quick break. Okay.
Listener Voicemail (06:46):
Hi, Doree and Elise, this is Shauna. I am actually heading back to my home in Massachusetts from the Cape. For those of us who are not in New England, that's Cape Cod. We spend a week every summer in Provincetown, Massachusetts, which is my happy place. And when I get back, I will be starting a new job. I'm a speech language pathologist or speech therapist, and I am transitioning from working in a hospital to working in a school. I made the leap, but kind of impulsively, but at the same time, I knew I needed a change. I was just hoping to crowdsource some self-care and any tips or tricks from my fellow school-based human beings who just have some knowledge that I might not know. I know I can do the job, but it's my first time working in a school as speech pathologist. I've worked in outpatient clinics, but never in this setting. So I'm a little nervous, but I'm feeling good. I didn't win Powerball last night, so I do have to actually do my job. And yeah, the community is so great and I love listening to it, and I thought this would be a great place to ask the question. I hope you guys are well, and yeah, I look forward to hearing your response. Thanks, love the pod. Love you both. Bye.
Elise Hu (08:18):
Alright, folks, you heard the question from Shauna, how can she best take care of herself while working in a school setting for the first time? Teachers out there, other educators, administrators
Doree Shafrir (08:29):
Challenge accepted? Yep. Yeah. Alright, and you can call in at (781) 591-0390. You can email us at Forever35podcast@gmail.com. You can also send us a text message at that phone number. You can also email us a voice memo at Forever35podcast@gmail.com. Please do not text us a voice memo. Google Voice for whatever reason, doesn't seem to like that. You can visit our website Forever35podcast.com. We have links there to everything we mentioned on the show. We're on Instagram at Forever35 Podcast where we post some clips from our interviews and some other fun stuff. Our newsletter is at Forever35podcast.com/newsletter, and our favorite products are at shopUS/Forever35. And after the break, we have a cornucopia of emails and voicemails about coworking, about microneedling, about laser hair removal. I mean the list
Elise Hu (09:25):
Of Oh, it's a real grab bag.
Doree Shafrir (09:26):
It's a real grab bag, Elise. So stay tuned and we will be right back. We'll be right back. Okay. We are back. Last week we were talking about how with the demise of the Wing and the Jane Club and other coworking spaces of that ilk, there hadn't really been something that seemed to fill the void. Things seemed either super techy,
Elise Hu (10:01):
Homegrown like tech Broy or
Doree Shafrir (10:03):
Very niche like Chief, for example, is great, but it's for executive women, which is a narrow demographic. So a listener did write in and say, Tara, T-A-R-R-A is Denver's answer to Jane Club slash The Wing. They offer coworking private offices and events and the most flattering lighting I've ever encountered.
Elise Hu (10:30):
Oh, that's a good selling
Doree Shafrir (10:33):
Point. That's a really good selling point. I feel like an off overlooked detail.
Elise Hu (10:38):
Yes, yes.
Doree Shafrir (10:41):
Also, yesterday the news came out that Noya House, which was a coworking and event space in LA and New York is closing, they're going bankrupt.
Elise Hu (10:55):
Yeah. It must not be a great business or investors really got in on it. VCs must have really bought in on this idea and then now aren't seeing the returns 10 or 15 or 20 years later. Yeah. Something because soho House is also changing ownership or I see business headlines about it, it they're
Doree Shafrir (11:14):
Going private, they went public and now they're being taken
Elise Hu (11:17):
Private. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. So I mean, don't know. I'm not a finance person, but it sounds like the people who kick the tires around on this aren't really liking the business model as much as they were once into it. Interesting. Okay. Well thanks for that suggestion for Denver.
Doree Shafrir (11:35):
Okay. Amy from Canada wrote in to say, I was listening to a recent episode where Dorie was talking about her post microneedling experience. I didn't hear any discussion about the fact that a series of three microneedling treatments at least a month apart, are recommended to achieve good results. I did this last fall, October to December at can that I got results, my discoloration, sun damage, et cetera, definitely faded. My aesthetician took before and after pictures prior to each treatment and shared them with me. I was told to repeat the series of treatments yearly, so not one and done. I found the after treatment slash experience quite challenging, the dryness and tightness of my face was very unpleasant. I thought I mentioned that they recommend that you get a series and that I was going to see how my first one went before I decided to commit to a series. I thought I mentioned that. Maybe I just mentioned it in my head or maybe I mentioned it in a casual chat. Anyway, yes, Amy is correct. Generally they do recommend a series of treatments. I'm finally out, I think I'm getting out of the phase where my skin is either or both very tight and itchy or flaking. I'm about a week and I'm nine days out. Today's Thursday and I got it done last Tuesday. It definitely is not amazing. Right after I didn't find it, I don't know, I didn't find it crazy, but I've also, I've had lasers done and actually, I don't know, lasers was also challenging because they're specifically zapping off hyperpigmentation,
(13:21)
And what happens is the spots get super dark before they fall off. So for a while you're walking around with these very dark sort of freckly looking things. You really look a little crazy. So appearance wise, I felt like the microneedling was less intense. I got super red right after, and then it faded almost immediately
(13:51)
And I was pretty careful about staying out of the sun that first week. Of course, now I'm back to my tennis schedule. My sun filled ways. I played, I played tennis, I practiced tennis last night, and when I practice at night, I wear regular tennis clothes. I wear a skirt and a shirt, a short sleeve shirt, but when I play during the day, I'm fully covered in what I call my beekeeper outfit. Your beekeeper outfit suit. Yeah. And I played with one of my teammates who I guess I've never played with her at night. She was like, I don't think I've ever seen your legs. Oh.
Elise Hu (14:33):
I was like, well, here. Yeah, yeah. This happens now that we work at home so much people are often like, oh, you're more than a torso. Similar thing. Yeah, yeah. I don't just, I have a bottom.
Doree Shafrir (14:51):
It's
Elise Hu (14:52):
Crazy.
Doree Shafrir (14:52):
Totally. That's really funny. Thank you for this note about microneedling. I'm also, I'm glad that it worked for you. So yeah, that's encouraging. Elise, do you want to read this email about laser hair
Elise Hu (15:06):
Removal? Sure. Happy to. Oh my gosh, I am so glad I finally got brave enough for the laser. I got a few recommendations from friends on the salon, so I didn't have to go with the big chain that pops up on Google, so I'm not sure how they are, but mine is a cute small business, even if I never achieve full hair destruction and I have to do it continuously, forever, I love it so much more than waxing. It is more expensive than waxing, so I just do it at longer intervals, so I'm spending the same amount of money as I would if I waxed girl math. If you have ever been waxed in the bikini area, then you will sail through the laser process. The way I described it was that it was more surprising than painful. Like I kept jumping when it would zap me because it caught me off guard, even though I knew a zap was coming some compare the pain to a rubber band snap, but I would say a very, very small rubber band being very lightly pulled, honestly, compared to the pain of a Brazilian wax has felt like getting a handshake.
(16:00)
The worst part for me is that you have to shave before, since the whole reason I want to do hair removal is because I hate shaving that intricate area, and I get terrible ingrown when I do. Oh, also, the place smells like burnt hair, which is kind of gross, but what are you going to do? Good luck and happy zapping. That is true. I forgot to mention the smell. Yes, the smell. There's zapping hair follicles, so it smells like burnt hair. Yeah, there's very little that you can do about it. I guess. Some places keep the air conditioning super, super cold, so I think that helps with the smell because you're too focused on being freezing. Totally.
Doree Shafrir (16:40):
Thank you for these insights about laser hair removal. We also got a voicemail about laser hair removal, so I'll say that now.
Listener Voicemail (16:49):
Hello, my name is Jessica from Texas. I was just finish up listening to the mini episode. We 59 and someone who's asking about their process laser head removal. So I'm a big fan of that. I've done underarm and bikini line and my tips are, one, to put numbing on yourself, you can easily buy cream over the counter and I would put it on the night beforehand, leave it on the whole night, and then wake up, shower and go. The place I go does have the cooling air, so that helps on top of the numbing cream that I put myself, and I will share that I have darker skin and dark hair and they said that I was a perfect candidate. I think pretty much the only people that it's harder for slash they don't recommend is if you are fighters pinned and have blonde hair. But I would say that especially if you can find a coupon, a lot of times you can find a coupon for six sessions, five sessions that they will take multiple sessions at first. Once I did the first, I want to say six sessions, then I have only been back twice a year since that time and I finished my initial run of sessions I would say three years ago. So I encouraged that caller and if anyone else is thinking about it, at least go and talk to them and see if you're, anyway, thanks. Bye.
Doree Shafrir (18:14):
All great tips. All great. All great tips. Okay. Elise, we are going to take another short break and after the break,
Elise Hu (18:26):
Yes,
Doree Shafrir (18:26):
We have some genes recommendations. Alright, we are back and this is a text that we got. Hi, longtime listener, first time texter, speaking of comfy, but stylish mom jeans. My go-to brand is cut from the cloth and that is cut and cloth with a K Kardashian style and the best cut ever for mom bod is the wide leg. Meg jeans the one with a deep hem, not the raw hem. They run a little big. I suggest sizing down, I'm a 32 slash 33, 12 to 14 apples shape and wear a 12 in the megs. They are sold at Nordstrom and are often online at Nordstrom Rack and the brand has a ton of sales on their site as well. They are so flattering. I get compliments literally every time I wear them. They are stretchy but not too stretchy. Soft, but not floppy. Love the show. Okay,
Elise Hu (19:33):
Cut from the cloth. I feel like I've seen this brand, but I don't own any clothes from there unless I do and I just didn't realize it.
Doree Shafrir (19:45):
Oh, these are cute. Yes, they are cute. Okay, I hear what you're saying, listener. It looks like they, oh, you know what? I'm on the cut from the cloth website and I'm looking at their Meg. Oh, here we go. Meg jeans. Yes, I see that they have some that come in the raw hym and then they have some that come in the finished. He, I don't mind a raw hym, I got to say. That's Maybe you
Elise Hu (20:20):
Should try. Yeah, maybe you should try 'em out
Doree Shafrir (20:22):
Maybe, because it looks like they have a lot more options in the raw hym. Alright, this is intriguing. This is very intriguing. Thank you for this recommendation. Elise, do you want to read the next? Sure.
Elise Hu (20:39):
Hi Dorian Elise. Wow. Everyone always talks about pause the pod moments, and now I've experienced the joy myself. I was out walking my dog feeling comfy and stylish in my Uniqlo drapey wide flare jeans when I heard the listener a question on mini up 4 59 about jeans that look sharp, but feel like soft pants, relatable queen. These jeans totally fit the built, they're comfortable, flattering, and the fabric is so soft. The drapey wide flares definitely lean casual, but Uniqlo also has straight leg options that look a bit more polished. Plus the price point is great. The only catch is that Uniqlo has limited physical presence in the us. I'm in Europe and lucky enough to have one in town that said their jeans are sized by waist circumference and length, which makes finding the right fit much easier. So ordering online could definitely work. Hope that helps.
(21:32)
Yes. I have slacks from Uniqlo that have lasted four years. Oh wow. Like trousers, because they have good work trousers too, and it's fantastic. I love that brand. I wish my kids would shop more Uniqlo. I used to put them in a lot of Uniqlo clothes. They had the puffer jackets and the pajamas, and they have Uniqlo heat tech, which is really great for under ski clothing or just being out in the cold, and so it was really great in Northeast Asia where we lived, but now I don't need heat tech, I don't need thermals. No, you
Doree Shafrir (22:06):
Don't. Or thermal
Elise Hu (22:07):
Type technology, but yeah, I haven't tried their wide flare genes, but yeah, so Uniqlo, drapey wide flare genes is what this listener suggests, and they're very soft.
Doree Shafrir (22:22):
Okay, thank you, listener. And we also got a voicemail about genes.
Doree Shafrir (22:28):
Hey, Dora and Elise. Just wanted to respond with some recommendations from the last mini episode one Universal Standard Genes. I recently got the Donna high rise curve straight leg, and I used to think people that wore jeans all the time were like sociopaths. How could you do that? Wear hard pants all the time. But I wore jeans every single day this summer, and I swear they became one with my body and they feel like they look like me. Honestly. They're so incredible. Two laser hair removal. I don't want to say it's life changing because that's a little extreme, but it's really incredible. Many years ago I had some Groupon sessions and I got them done my lifts, my full bikini and my underarms, and then I just went back two weeks ago to get a touchup and the place where I go, they do not numb you, but everything else Elise said was spot on regarding the cooling sensation. It's like a little spray of cold water goes out at the same time as the laser kind of does its thing on you, so the water kind of cools it and kind of mitigates perhaps any more pain than it would be in. I find the pain very low. It's uncomfortable, but not painful is how I would describe it. And incredible, absolutely incredible. If you can afford it, do it. It's great. Okay. Bye-bye.
Elise Hu (24:00):
Fantastic. Not only do you have a jeans recommendations there, universal standard, you also have more encouragement to do laser hair removal should you want.
Doree Shafrir (24:11):
I mean,
Elise Hu (24:12):
We've got it all. We've got it all here Forever35.
Doree Shafrir (24:15):
We've got it all. I feel like the jeans might become the new dish rags. I'm just going to put that out there. I'm a, I am excited. I personally am excited. Well, Elise, this has been great. Listeners, great to talk to you and we will talk to you all again very soon.
Elise Hu (24:35):
Okay, until next time.
Doree Shafrir (24:36):
Bye.