Mini-Ep 428: News You Can Use
Doree and Elise share their trusted local and national news sources and hear from listeners about the pride of free mugging, the Apple Health app reminder hack, and the Sam’s Club Chick-Fil-A dupe.
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Doree (00:10):
Hello and welcome to Forever 35, a podcast about the things we do to take care of ourselves. I'm Doree Shafrir.
Elise (00:17):
And I'm Elise Hu. And we're just two friends who like to talk a lot about serums,
Doree (00:22):
And this is a mini episode where we hear from you, we share your comments and your thoughts, and we answer your questions to the best of our ability. But please remember, we are not experts. We are podcast hosts. We always encourage you to seek support first and foremost, from a medical and or mental health professional as needed.
Elise (00:42):
There are limits to our abilities, so many limits, at least for me. So we try to answer to the best of our ability and then it also wanes. Sometimes I feel greater capacity and sometimes I feel
Doree (01:02):
Less. Yeah, it's true, but we do try our best. I mean, Elise, you have a TED Talk.
Elise (01:10):
Oh, yes. Today is Ted Talk launch day or this week is Ted Talk Launch week is
Doree (01:15):
TED Talk Launch day.
Elise (01:17):
Yeah, but it's not out on YouTube yet. I think it comes out on YouTube next week. And so I don't have to deal with YouTube commenters yet, which is great. I'm very daunted by the YouTube commenters of the world. There's actually people who comment and then comment very abundantly on YouTube, so that is not something I have to worry about yet. Yes, yes.
Doree (01:51):
What else is going on with you?
Elise (01:55):
I am still in the field a little bit trying to make this documentary or hope to get a documentary off the ground and financed. So did a little working on that over the weekend. And yes, listeners, if you miss that episode, episode, because there are so many really compelling people and notably young people who are having to rebuild from these fires. Some production partners and I are going to try and follow some of these kids or tweens and teens over the period of nine months or a year to see what happens after the fires kind of in this aftermath. And I saw you were in one of your two weekends in the desert. How did it go? I was How did y'all do at Sectionals?
Doree (02:44):
We did. Okay. We won one match, very decisively.
Elise (02:49):
Nice.
Doree (02:49):
And then we lost two matches in very close, annoying ways. I know both matches had two, so each match was three individual matches, like three matches of doubles, and you needed to win two of those to win the match. And in each of the other two matches, we had two matches go to tie breaks,
Elise (03:14):
And
Doree (03:15):
We only won one of those, and so we lost both matches.
Elise (03:23):
But it sounds like you fought hard. It sounds like you fought hard though, all the way to the tie break. So
Doree (03:28):
We did. We fought hard.
Elise (03:31):
It's better to lose close, I think, than just get clobbered if you're going to lose.
Doree (03:36):
Yeah, yeah.
Elise (03:38):
Over the weekend there were the A FC and the NFC championship games, and there was one of 'em where it was like 55, I can't remember who scored 55 points in a football game, which is almost unheard of these days.
Doree (03:53):
Wow.
Elise (03:56):
Yeah, it was the Eagles game. Yeah, it was the Eagles championship game. So I watched some football, watched some football over the weekend, clearly, but not carefully enough to remember who had 55 points come at me, come at me, listeners.
Doree (04:14):
I did not watch any football. And in fact, I only knew who was going to the Super Bowl because someone texted one of my group chats to be like, because one of the people is an Eagles fan, and then the other is a big Taylor Swift fan. So they've started rooting for the Chiefs and they were like, we're going against each other in the Super Bowl. And I was sort of like, what? I didn't even know the Eagles were in contention. Eagle Chief, I so do not follow football, and Matt doesn't follow football. We're just not a football, football home. So
Elise (04:51):
I used to be very into the NFL, and it's probably because of my Texas roots. So much of culture is around it. This is what you do on weekends to get together with friends. This is what you do on Monday nights. And then the farther I got away, the farther I got from Texas, the less I was really able to pay attention and follow, especially when I lived on the other side of the planet. That was when I really couldn't follow NFL anymore because of the time zone differences. All the games were at the worst possible times. And then
Doree (05:24):
That's, yes,
Elise (05:25):
That's when I kind of fell off.
Doree (05:26):
Yes, yes.
Elise (05:28):
But playoff season still into,
Doree (05:30):
Yeah. Matt used to follow the Patriots because well, we're from Boston and he liked Tom Brady, but then simultaneously with Tom Brady leaving the Patriots, more and more stuff started coming out about CTE and just how horrible football is. And so he was like, okay, I'm done. I'm out. So that just ended and I had no real football affinity. So of course, for sure, Henry at school, they play flag football sometimes and he loves it, and I'm like, oh, I don't,
Elise (06:14):
But you don't want 'em to play football in high school, don't want him to
Doree (06:17):
Play. And I get that they're only doing flag, but I feel like Flag is the gateway to tackle. And so I'm like, let's steer you in a different direction, please. The tennis tournament was super fun. Henry and Matt came with me, Henry Match, Henry watched the match that I won, which was nice, and it was really nice to get away. It was also just a fun sort of culmination of this year of tennis that I embarked on. And yeah, it was just fun. It was a really lovely setting in the desert. You're playing tennis surrounded by mountains, and it was just beautiful and yeah, good vibes.
Elise (07:08):
That all is so good. Yeah, that vibe is so good out there. It really makes you feel like you're on vacation because it's so distinct. Totally from our normal daily lives. I get it that plenty of people retire to the Palm Springs area, in which case that is your life every day, but it isn't for us. And so I do enjoy getting out there. I'm glad you had a good time.
Doree (07:30):
Thank you. Yeah, it was really nice. And I get to go back in three days, which is kind of nuts.
Elise (07:41):
Hope you don't miss it too much.
Doree (07:43):
Hope I do not miss it too much.
Elise (07:49):
All right, well, we have lots of stuff too. Lots of texts and emails. I'm excited about today's
Doree (07:57):
Meeting. We do. And we actually, we have a text that I want to address before we take a break, which is with the new administration starting and the next four years looming, how have you been balancing staying informed with not feeling enraged and emotionally drained since you guys are also in la? Is there any news source you've found ideally off social media that are good sources for LA and national news that feel informative and neutral but not too doom and gloom? I mean, I have some suggestions for the second one.
Elise (08:28):
Okay. Yeah. Why don't we go backwards? Yes.
Doree (08:31):
Take the second question first. There's this little news outlet called NPR, perhaps youve heard of it. Perhaps you're familiar. That I enjoy in the local NPR affiliates, KCRW and KPCC are both great. And KPCC also has la, which I also think is a wonderful local news outlet. And the LA Times has its own issues, but is also a good source for local LA news.
Elise (09:05):
And I really think we should shout out local news because we are watching local news outlets all over the country disappear because of lack of funding and bad management and business models just not working. And one way that we can show that local news matters to us is by actually reading it and consuming it and subscribing it or becoming a member. So vote with your attention. And I know that it is really difficult to follow all of the flooding the zone with shit as Steve Bannon called it. And they do it on purpose. They flood the zone with shit so that you
Doree (09:46):
Are
Elise (09:46):
Feel flooded and helpless, and then they can do more nefarious or cruel things. And so it is really hard during this moment. But yeah, local is one really intentional and difference-making way to direct your attention, I
Doree (10:04):
Think. Yes, I agree. And then how have you been balancing? Are you balancing informed with not feeling enraged and emotionally drained? This is very tough because my sort of normal daily go-tos when I'm just checking in with the news are my New York Times app and my Apple News app and the New York Times has been bleak, bleak, bleak, af and that. Yeah. So I've been sort of avoiding looking at the times I turned
Elise (10:47):
Off alerts. Yeah, I turned off alerts.
Doree (10:49):
Oh yeah. I didn't have alerts on ever. But yeah, do not have those alerts on because those will send you spiraling. I don't do this, but I feel like one way to approach this would be to have specific times of the day or time of the day that you check in with the news and set a certain amount of time. So it's like every day at three, I check the news for 15 minutes or something like that. Again, I have not done this, but I feel like this could be a good way to just kind of limit your consumption while still staying a little bit informed. Are there any, Elise, do you feel like there's any good sort of news digests that people could read? I don't read the skim, but I feel like people like the Skim for this kind of stuff. Sometimes
Elise (11:42):
I think I'm turning more to newsletters, substack newsletters on certain topics
Doree (11:49):
Because
Elise (11:50):
I can't handle just going to a Washington Post or a New York Times or an LA Times homepage because it is just too overwhelming. And so I get one on climate from Bill McKibbon who's one of the original environmentalists in America, and very clear-eyed and clear thinking. Rebecca Tracer, who writes a lot about feminist issues and abortion. She just started a Substack newsletter as well. And so I've been reading that. And so for the issues that you're interested in, newsletters are a good way to go. I have also turned away from just homepage and general news. I can't mean Vox and the Atlantic tend to be a little bit more context focused as a lens instead of just headlines. So maybe if you want to know what does this mean to me than
Doree (12:51):
Places
Elise (12:51):
Like that more magazine style or Vox, which is explicitly explainer journalism, those could be places to turn.
Doree (13:01):
Yeah. I'd love to hear from listeners how they navigate this, because I know there are some people, and I've done this occasionally too, where you're just like, I cannot consume anything. And I don't think that's the answer, but I also think that being glued to the news and obsessively checking it or looking at it all the time is also not super healthy probably. So what is that happy medium?
Elise (13:28):
Yeah. I listened to Roy Wood Jr. The comedian talk about this, and he is like, conserve and preserve your peace. So in this time of the zone being flooded, then make decisions to preserve and conserve your peace for now because you're going to need that energy for the longer fight ahead and also for your own sort of creative energy and your ability to be there for your loved ones and your family members. Let us know what you're doing
Doree (14:01):
And just a reminder, if you want to let us know about your news diet or anything else, call or text us at (781) 591-0390. Email us at Forever five podcast@gmail.com. And as you know, we do have a website forever 35 podcast com. We've got links there to everything we mention on the show. We're on Instagram Forever 35 Podcast. Podcast, and we do have a newsletter that I will get out some point soon, forever 35 podcast.com/newsletter.
Elise (14:29):
And folks, we have been partnering with our friends at Bausch and Lam because dry eye is a legit problem and it's a problem that I suffer from. So it ends up being a very good partnership between us and this brand to do a special branded segment. So you're going to hear our branded segment with Bausch Lam followed by our regular ad break, and then we'll be back with more content from you, your questions and texts that we will address after our branded segment and our break. So we will be back. And now we've got another segment brought to you by the iCare experts at Bausch and Lam and produced by Acast Creative. Did you know more than 38 million Americans are affected by chronic dry eye? If the answer is no, you're not alone. So let's talk about it. We'll play a little game, Doree, to learn more about this condition. Are you ready? Ooh,
Doree (15:21):
I am ready.
Elise (15:22):
Okay, question one. Which of the following factors cannot lead to chronic dry eye? I'll give you a little multiple choice.
Doree (15:30):
Okay. Okay.
Elise (15:31):
A increased digital device use B, hormonal changes. C, underlying inflammation of the eyes, or D, not wearing sunglasses indoors.
Doree (15:44):
Ooh. Which can't
Elise (15:45):
Lead to dry eye.
Doree (15:48):
Is it increased digital device use?
Elise (15:51):
Can't be that because we know
Doree (15:53):
Yeah,
Elise (15:54):
That's true. We know that leads to dry
Doree (15:57):
Eye, right. And hormonal changes. Well, we know that that leads to chronic dry eye underlying inflammation of the eyes. Yes, we know that too. Makes sense. Okay, so it must be not wearing sunglasses indoors. That's right. Got it.
Elise (16:15):
I know that was a tricky one though.
Doree (16:16):
It was a tricky one. I was like, is this a trick question? Maybe
Elise (16:21):
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Doree (16:59):
I mean, you got this based on everything we've been talking about. This has to be true.
Elise (17:04):
Correct. Ding, ding,
Doree (17:04):
Ding, ding, ding. Few. Okay.
Elise (17:08):
In fact, clinically significant inflammation is present in up to 65% of chronic dry eye cases. Additionally, for people who have preexisting inflammatory health issues such as autoimmune conditions, autoimmune, it may be a systemic problem that also impacts their eyes. Alright, one more question for you, Doree. Final question. Okay, I am ready. Here we go. When you start experiencing dry eye symptoms over and over, you should A ignore it and continue to suffer. Like Elise, that seems wrong. B, turn to the internet and Google your symptoms.
Doree (17:45):
Dr. Google,
Elise (17:47):
Probably not. C, talk to an eye care professional to discuss if prescription treatment options like Xiidra could help. Or D. None of the above.
Doree (17:57):
Okay. I'm going to have to go with C.
Elise (18:00):
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Doree (18:16):
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Elise (19:17):
Yay.
Doree (19:19):
We got a text that said Hi. I need a mascara wreck also. How has it been over a year since I've written in Look. I dunno, but you should write in more. Anyway, I was a diehard IA fan, but I swear they changed the formula. What's the best these days? Well, I want to preface this by saying that I've never been a diehard fan of the Ilia mascara,
Elise (19:42):
So you're not going to suggest something that is like the Ilia
Doree (19:46):
Mascara. Yeah. Did you have a suggestion, Elise?
Elise (19:50):
I have been so loyal to the L'Oreal voluminous in black as black
Doree (19:57):
For
Elise (19:57):
Basically my whole adult life. I discovered it from a makeup artist that worked with me who said, this is her favorite drugstore product. The rest of her kit was good, really expensive things that you can't get at drugstore. But then she had L'Oreal voluminous mascara in black is Black and not the waterproof kind, just the regular kind because the waterproof can be too sticky and get gunky, but the non waterproof kind really separates your lashes. And apparently L'Oreal and Lancome, they share a manufacturing facility. So it's also the Lancome mascara,
Doree (20:37):
Right? Yes. Just
Elise (20:38):
Depending who brands it.
Doree (20:40):
Lancome is obviously more expensive if you are open to a tubing mascara, which not everyone is. I love the Thrive Cosmetics mascara. I started using it when they advertise, they briefly advertise on the show and so they sent us some and I have just stuck with it because I think it's such a great mascara. So that would be my wreck.
Elise (21:04):
Okay. Yeah. So there's a few wrecks for you.
Doree (21:07):
Few wrecks for you. Alright, we're moving on to the free mugging portion of the pod.
Elise (21:17):
Free mugging is back in our conversation because it's back I discovered the other day. Yes, it's back. And clearly we have some listeners that listen all the way through to the end of our episodes because at the end of one of our recent episodes, I shared the news that I discovered Rob is a proud free mugger and it's making me completely reassess him. I don't know, will this relationship last? Wow. Dunno dunno. But he's very proud. He's very proud of it. And then that has then prompted some of you to write in. Doree, do you want to do the text and then it looks like we have a voicemail too.
Doree (21:54):
Yeah. Alright. As an aggressive free mugger with a DHD, one reason why the spills don't matter is because one, the coffee is generally never piping hot. Two, the mug is generally never full to the brim. And three, I'm the type of person who can and will and has spilled coffee slash maa latte all over myself from a Starbucks to-go container. Yes, the one with the itty bitty hole for drinking vila free mug. So I guess what this person is saying is that even if there is a lid on their coffee cup, they're going to spill it anyway. So why bother?
Elise (22:32):
Which is
Doree (22:32):
Interesting because I'm just saying if you have a travel coffee mug, you can close it so that that little thing is open. But I digress. I'm going to share something personal about this, but first I'm going to play voicemail because we actually also got a voicemail about free mugging.
Listener Voicemail (22:55):
Okay.
(22:56):
Hey, this is a caller from Santa Cruz. Okay, hot take on free mugging. I think being a free mugger myself, I think part of the value of free mugging is when you do it and you don't feel something, you accomplish something that day. It's like that little bit of making you feel good about yourself. You're skiing, you're going down a mountain, and you could crash at any time and run into a tree and be hurt, but you're not. You're cruising down that mountain and you look good doing it and people are looking over and they're like, wow, that woman is driving with hot tea in her hand. And look at her go. She's still wearing a cool outfit and it doesn't have tea all over it. I always feel a little bit accomplished when I mug, and maybe that's why I do it. Have I spilled in my, but the days that I don't, I feel really cool.
Doree (23:48):
Have I spilled my so much car? Absolutely. I love this. It's like this little fri song of accomplishment when you don't
Elise (23:57):
Spill. It's worth it for the win. It's worth it for the win. I get
Doree (24:00):
That. Yeah. So funny. That's really funny. I totally get this. And look, I'm all for finding little dopamine hits where we can get 'em. So I respect this. I respect the honesty also, I got to say, okay, so here is my own story, which is over the weekend I had this finely crafted timing for Sunday where I was going to play a tennis match. I was going to run back to my Airbnb or drive back to my Airbnb shower change and get back to the venue in time to see the second match of the day on Sunday that I wasn't playing in. And then drive home after that because I was like, I don't want to drive home in my sweaty. I don't want to be sitting in my sweaty tennis clothes for four hours and then drive home for two more hours. And I arranged with the Airbnb that I could get late checkout and blah, blah blah.
(25:10):
And then because there was rain in the forecast, they decided last minute to move the second match from two 30 to one 30. And we were all sitting there having lunch from the little snack bar. I had gotten a Turkey club where I subbed avocado for bacon because listeners probably know I don't eat bacon. And I had taken a few bites of the sandwich and then I was like, oh no, I got to go. So I grabbed the sandwich, which is on a paper plate, run to my car. I'm like, I guess I'm eating the sandwich in the car. So no lid. No lid. The sandwich sort of fell apart and it wasn't ideal, but I did what I had to do and I have empathy for the reluctant free platers, I guess is what I'm saying.
Elise (26:19):
Yeah. So do you feel like this has changed you now you're more willing to take these risks?
Doree (26:26):
No, absolutely not. Yeah,
Elise (26:35):
I feel like I'm so much more okay with free plating than I am with free bowling or free mugging. I don't know what that's about. Huh? Why?
Doree (26:44):
Oh, that's interesting.
Elise (26:45):
Yeah. Why is it more okay with me that it's a solid food on a plate than something goopy in a bowl or liquid in a mug, huh? Because I free plate all the time, then I'm so judgy about free mugging. Fascinating. Alright, we'll dive into that another time
Doree (27:08):
We
Elise (27:08):
Have, do you want to
Doree (27:08):
Take this next one?
Elise (27:10):
Sure. I wanted to throw in an opinion about the holiday and Christmas decoration piece specifically. I'd argue you can leave all your decor up until 40 days after Christmas. Ideal candle miss. And that's the Christmas as. That's the Christmas season. Oh, IE candle miss as That's the Christmas season, so we can give ourselves a break. Also, we need the cheer of lights and ornaments into the long days of winter and not when it's still fall. I think the post Halloween holiday decorating is absurd. And when Elise mentioned having to manage multiple rounds of pills for the dog, I want to put in a plug for the iPhone health app where they have a very nifty interface to track multiple medications and their dosages to go with each at multiple times a day. It'll prompt you via notification and you can mark off taken or skipped. I used to use reminders for that, but this is far superior. Oh, I didn't know the iPhone Health app did that. And now I will try it. Well, first of all, Oscar is out of his multiple medication regimen. Thank the sweet Lord. So I don't have a test subject right now, but next time now I will know. Now I'll know. Thank you.
Doree (28:26):
Okay. Wow. I love these life hacks. Love these tips. All right, Elise, let's take another little break and we'll be right back. We'll be right back. Okay. We have returned and we have an email. Elise, would you mind reading this?
Elise (28:56):
Yeah. Thanks as always for your shows. I look forward to them every week with all the talk about what to bring with you in case of an evacuation. I was thinking about printed photos. I have so many albums of them. I'm wondering if anyone can recommend a service to digitize my printed photos. Also, I have saved letters and cards that are sentimental to me. Does anyone save these digitally? Thanks for any advice or recommendations. Doree, by the way, I lived in Northridge during the 1994 earthquake and that was a wild ride. Our family and home were okay. Unfortunately, my high school was damaged and we couldn't return to it. So the students were relocated to seminary down the road. I went to a Catholic high school at the time, which explains the seminary, Jen. Okay. Do we have any recommendations? I feel like I am advertised via Instagram and maybe TikTok some of these services that'll digitize,
Doree (29:45):
But
Elise (29:46):
Surely there are better ones than others.
Doree (29:50):
There's an advertiser who has not advertised on the show for quite some time, but perhaps they will come back at some point and it looks like their code is still working. I just checked it and it's for Legacy Box where you send in your old home movies, your photos, and they digitize everything and it all goes into the cloud and then they send your stuff back.
Elise (30:16):
Yay.
Doree (30:17):
And people really like it. It looks like they have different levels. So they have one where it's up to two items, then up to 10 items, up to 20 items, up to 40 items, and one item is one reel, one tape, or a pack of 25 photos. So it looks like for the starter kit you would get up to two items, which could be 50 photos. You know what, I have actually been thinking about this a lot because of the fires here in
Elise (30:50):
La.
Doree (30:52):
A lot of people lost all of their physical possessions, all of their physical media, all of their artwork, all the stuff. And the thought of being without that stuff would be really hard. And so I've just been thinking about digitizing it all
Elise (31:18):
For sure.
Doree (31:18):
And it has felt quite daunting. I just mentioned Legacy Box because I'm familiar with it because they advertise on the show. There's other companies that do this. I think even Costco does it. So that could also be something to look into. So Elise, we recently heard from someone who was like, Hey, you guys recommend Costco and Trader Joe's stuff all the time. What about Sam's Club?
Elise (31:44):
Yeah,
Doree (31:44):
I was like,
Elise (31:45):
Sam, what about Sam's Club?
Doree (31:46):
I haven't been to a Sam's Club. Oh, also remember how I was like, no, I remember BJ's Wholesale Club. I drove past one on my way home from the desert. There's one somewhere east of Los Angeles off the 10. So if anyone
Elise (32:05):
Knows, doesn't sound like you're going to become a member though.
Doree (32:07):
I don't think so. It's a little bit far, far. Also, I just want to note, I drove home mostly in the dark, in the pouring rain, which don't recommend. Don't recommend. It was not great alone. So yeah, not the best. Okay, so someone wrote in and said, Hey ladies, hot Sam's Club tip. The members Mark Southern Style chicken bites taste just like Chick-fil-A nuggets 10 out of 10 would recommend.
Elise (32:43):
Wow, that's a hard breading formula to get right? I think there's a lot of recipes. Try and make your nuggets, the Chick-fil-A nuggets and it never quite works out.
Doree (32:53):
Yes, totally. How
Elise (32:55):
About that? Sam's Club,
Doree (32:56):
I mean, it's inspiring me to seek out Sam's Club. I mean, not really. It's not like I have some big thing for Chick-fil-A nuggets, but
Elise (33:09):
My kids do though. So that would be a real clutch item to have in my
Doree (33:13):
House. Maybe you need to seek out Sam's Club. I'm just saying. All right. Do we have any Costco or Trader Joe's wrecks this week?
Elise (33:23):
Well, just, I'd like to shout out and recognize Costco generally because there was a kind of political effort, I think at the executive level or at the shareholder level to try and get Costco to review. Its DEIJ practices. And Costco was like, no, we're not going to get rid of our DEIJ practices. And then 90% of shareholders also backed that, backed the company and saying, no, of course the diversity of our company is very important to our company. And so they were able to kind of beat back this rebellion from these activist shareholders or an activist private capital group. I can't remember. So congratulations to Costco and wait a stand up for the values of your company. The values of inclusiveness and diversity in a time where a lot of companies are revisiting them because they're trying to be, now there's this anti woke movement, but Costco's like, no man, our employees matter to us and our employees. Diversity is actually what makes this company so strong. So just shout out to Costco generally. And then my Trader Joe's wreck for this week is the tiniest chocolate chip cookies. It's a bag that's labeled. They come in a bag, not a box, and they're called tiniest chocolate chip cookies. And they are the size of super large sprinkles, basically, or chocolate chips. And so they're not big. They are actually quite tiny and they would be excellent as an ice cream topping. But I just ate handfuls of these by themselves. So very crunchy. I like a nice crunchy
Doree (35:08):
Snack. Elise texted a photo of these to me as I was literally pulling into a trader. How about that? This past weekend in the desert to pick up something for lunch. And I was like, you know what? Why don't I just get these? And I couldn't find them. So she had texted me a picture. So I showed the picture to one of the employees and he was like, oh yeah, they're over here. So I bought some, I didn't tell you this. I
Elise (35:36):
Ooh. And
Doree (35:38):
What'd you think? I liked them. I didn't love them, but I liked them.
Elise (35:44):
Yeah,
Doree (35:44):
Yeah, I did take your advice. And I offered them to my son as an ice cream topping. And he enjoyed that. He liked that.
Elise (35:55):
Okay, I'm going to try that. I'm try that next.
Doree (35:58):
Yeah, so that was good.
Elise (36:00):
Awesome.
Doree (36:00):
Alright everybody, thanks so much and we will talk to you soon.
Elise (36:06):
Alright, until next time.
Doree (36:08):
Bye.