Mini-Ep 418: Planking and Progress
Listeners write in looking for a dupe, some hot (but maybe not-so-hot?) takes about Costco, a comfy but classic shoe rec, and a useful tip for incorporating strength training into our every day lives.
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Origins Original Skin Matte Moisturizer with Willowherb
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Doree: Hello and welcome to Forever35, a podcast about the things we do to take care of ourselves. I'm Doree Shafrir.
Elise: And I'm Elise Hugh. And we're just two friends who like to talk a lot about serums,
Doree: And this right here is a mini episode where we hear from you, we share your comments and your thoughts, and we answer your questions to the best of our ability. Please remember, we are podcast hosts. We are not experts. We do always encourage you to seek support first and foremost from a medical and or mental health professional as needed.
Elise: And we are recording this before election day. So we dunno, we are still coming at you from the past. Yes. So we can't weigh in on what is happening in America and the world right now. It's true. I'm just going to keep it really neutral because I have no idea. I am a voice from the past.
Doree: Oh God. I know. It's like we can't predict the future, so there's no real way to know.
Elise: Nope. Nope. And not getting into that game. Nope. That'll just, yeah. I've already been riding the polar coaster. I don't need to get into the prediction game.
Doree: How you doing?
Elise: Well, that's the thing. I'm coming at you from the past and past me is still in this state of panic, but maybe I won't be. Maybe future me won't be. We'll see.
Doree: I know. Yes, I know. Yes, I know.
Elise: Thankfully, we have heard from a lot of you all, so this can be an episode really devoted to community and the Forever35 fam and questions that you have for each other.
Doree: Yes, totally. I want to just remind everyone, we are going to be recording an episode with makeup artists to the stars Rachel Goodwin in a few weeks. Yes, we are. And we would love to get your questions. Please call or text us at five nine one zero three nine zero. You can email us at Forever35 podcast@gmail.com and you can ask questions about makeup, about skincare, about being a makeup artist, about her celebrity clients. You probably can't say very much about them, but if you have red carpet makeup questions Sure. She could get into that. So ask Away
Elise: Is contouring over Contouring's? Completely over. Right. Remember when that was really big, Kim Kardashian was doing it,
Doree: But whenever I don't follow, I don't really follow that many beauty influencers on TikTok, but a lot of times just random people I follow will be doing a video where they're putting their makeup
Elise: On
Doree: And these people are still contouring. It's not as much of such an insane contour as I feel like people were doing for a while where it looked like a paint by numbers situation on their faces. But there's definitely still contouring happening.
Elise: It's supposed to help you look good in photos, but then in 3D it doesn't look as good. It seems kind of totally
Doree: Okay. Totally, totally.
Elise: Yeah. Maybe that'll be my question for Rachel. Just be like, how much contouring do you do
Doree: And what is the appropriate level of contour for just everyday life? That's a good, I also have questions for her around what makeup makes you look unquote dated, because I sometimes see these tiktoks of people being only millennials wear their makeup like this, and it's something that everyone I know does the way they wear their eyeshadow or something, you know what I mean? And I'm like, oh, also, people are much more into primer than they used to be. There's all these things where I'm like, oh, I missed that. I missed that changed.
Elise: I'm so set in my ways though. My daughter, my tween is always making fun of me for being so millennial core, a side part. I have, God forbid, I part my hair on the side often, and she's like, so millennial core and then powder blush instead of cream blush. She's just like, oh my gosh. Oh my goodness, grandma.
Doree: So, but you know what? I feel like all these things are going to come back around. Of course, all it takes is some Gen Z cool brand to be like, we just came out there and they'll call it something different.
Elise: It'll be some new format, but it'll just be some,
Doree: But it's actually just powder blush. Yeah, we're onto you. We're onto Gen Z brand. Everything gets rebranded and people think they've discovered it and you're like, no, we've actually been doing that for a long time and you made fun of us for using it. But now that it's Gen Z branded, it's okay.
Elise: Everything old becomes new again. And speaking of old, we are now in November, which means we are in our first ever series month in which we're just really zeroing in on one topic. And this month we're talking about how to be old and growing older and having aging parents and menopause perimenopause this particular stage of our evolutions. We had Lynn Slater on Monday who, if you haven't heard that episode, please do because she's witty and wise. And then this month we're going to continue with a lot of really insightful guests on the topic, but if you have questions or you have any gripes or some pleasures about getting older, call in, text us, write us all the ways.
Doree: Do you have a favorite thing about getting older, Elise?
Elise: Yeah. What I really love about getting older is being so much more sure of myself and I do not pay the same psychological taxes that I paid in my twenties where I just spent time ruminating about things that just didn't matter. Like, oh, is so-and-so mad at me? Or did I say the wrong thing? Or am I going to get that particular job or whatever that I wanted? I know who I am and I feel great about that.
Doree: You're unbothered.
Elise: So it's a great time to be the parent of a teenager actually, because it's just dirt off my shoulder. It's like, come at me, bro.
Doree: Come at me. Nothing bothers me. That's interesting.
Elise: Yeah. She can be like, I hate you. You're the worst. And I'm like, all right. But we don't get into as many power battles as we would if I was not as firm in who I am Now.
Doree: I generally agree with you, and I generally feel this way, and that's why when sometimes things bubble up where I'm insecure about something or a friendship goes south or something, I'm like, wait, why is this still happening? It's still getting zits. Yeah. It's because we're a work in progress. That's true. Thank you, Elise. You're right. Yeah. So you're saying this will still keep happening
Elise: Forever.
Yeah. One of my hangups is obviously about body stuff because I grew up in the nineties and worked as a model and all of that stuff, and sometimes my whole politics are around this. I'm all about, Hey, our bodies change and they're constantly an evolution, but last year I noticed I had gained five to 10 pounds, or I just gained weight and I went up a size and I had to really kind of sit with that and just be like, wait, that's cool. This is just kind of how I am. But then those are my demons, and I often feel like those kind of crop up. So yeah, I mean it's continually an evolution, but I think it's really helpful to have this platform to talk things out, and that has also been kind of a remover of shame or stigma around our insecurities.
Doree: Yeah. Yeah.
Elise: So call in, let us know what you're thinking about as you're evolving.
Doree: Yeah. Yeah. Well, Elise, let's get to of our listener questions. And before we do that, I know I mentioned this when I was talking about Rachel Goodwin, but just a reminder, you can call or text us at (781) 591-0390. You can email us at Forever35 podcast@gmail.com. We also have our website Forever35 podcast.com. We have links to everything we mentioned on the show. We're on Instagram at Forever35 podcast. We have a newsletter at Forever35 podcast.com/newsletter, and you can shop our favorite products at shop my US slash Forever35, and we are going to take a short break and we'll be right back.
Elise: We'll be right back.
Doree: Hello. We are back. And here is an email that we got. Hello, Doree Elise, I'm wondering if you can put this question out to your Forever35 audience. Okay. Consider it put out. I wonder how many are also affected by the fact that Origins discontinued their wonderful moisturizer, Origin's, original skin matte moisturizer with Willow Herb. What are other oily skin folks using? Is there a dupe? What is a dupe site you recommend? Years ago you mentioned a dupe product website, but of course now I don't remember what it was. I have tried too many to count matte moisturizers for oily skin, and this is the only one that worked. I would love to hear from other folks who loved this product and now are starting their life over without it. Thank you. Oh no, you're having to start your whole life over. I know. Yikes.
Elise: Well, I am not familiar with this product. So listeners, if you were using the Origins original Skin mat moisturizer with Willow Herb, what are you using now? Call in, write in, text us.
Doree: I don't have a specific recommendation because I too have not used this, but I find that the Skincare Addiction subreddit is great with this kind of stuff. So you could ask in there or you could search there to see if someone else has asked this question. I believe they might also have, I think they have a D, they might have a dupes list. They have so much content and you can look up specific products and there's, there's a lot of stuff in there. So it's reddit.com/r/skincare addiction. So I hope our listeners can offer some thoughts, but that is also another resource that I highly recommend.
Elise: Great. Alright. Our next text, I have a comfy shoe rack for the listener who's traveling soon. And thought Doree would like these as well because we share a similar foot type wide toe box, narrow heel. They're the asics Japan S, they're cute, extremely comfortable, relatively inexpensive, and come in more than a dozen color combinations. I wear these almost every day and just bought a new pair. Are you familiar?
Doree: I own a pair of these. Oh, I have these. This
Elise: Listener know knows you too well.
Doree: Yeah, I have have a platform version. It has a slightly thicker sole. My only issue with these is I think they're like a half a size too small. I think I need a bigger size, so I haven't been wearing them as much. But yes, I am very familiar with these shoes. Shoes and in fact, own a pair.
Elise: Love it. I love that she even mentions Doree, you would like these.
Doree: Yes, you're right, listener. You are correct. I do in fact own a pair of these. Anyway, thank you for this suggestion. Okay. We also got a text about strength training. This listener wrote on the topic of strength training slash maintenance. When you hate it, highly recommend incorporating it into other routines. I do squats when I brush my teeth and do a minute of planks before I shower has helped old running injuries and stave off back pain. Hope this helps
Elise: On planks. That's supposed to be like if you're going to do a single calisthenic exercise, it's apparently planks and lunges. According to my ER doctor friend, she was like, look, I'm only playing tennis these days, but I always do three minutes of planks after I play tennis. And she's like, if I do that and I do it consistently, I've noticed real strength differences all over my body, my shoulders, my arms.
Doree: Oh, wow.
Elise: Yeah. And then I remember when I was training in Korea with a Pilates instructor, she was like, look, you travel a lot when you're in the hotel. If you can't exercise during the day, just do plank to pike. Just do plank to pike, plank to pike regularly, and that will just keep you in alignment, but also keep your core strong because you need it every moment that you're awake. Love that. I hear about planks being just so vital on both sides of the planet.
Doree: I'll just drop down to a plank every,
Elise: Yeah. I used to do little plank competitions with Luna when she was four. She loved planking, so maybe that was the best shape I was ever in.
Doree: I wonder if Henry would like planking. I bet he, he also loves a competition, so he would probably be into that. I mean, I don't want him to become obsessive.
Elise: Yeah, you always worry with boys. Yeah, because there's just so much in the boy YouTube culture these days about body challenges. And so that always worries me.
Doree: I am not up on, because I don't really watch that much YouTube, so I'm not really up on what I need to watch out for. But my husband watches a lot of YouTube and he is very aware of the way that the algorithm works. And there was one time when Henry turned on YouTube and he was watching, oh my gosh, I'm trying, I can't remember what the video was, but I was like, I think it was a knockoff bluey video. It was a fake bluey video. And I was like, this seems bad. And I told Matt and he was like, he likes sprang into action because Henry doesn't have his own YouTube account. He doesn't use YouTube kids, he just uses Matt's account because Matt wants to be able to monitor exactly what he's watching and manipulate the algorithm and be able block things and he knows where things lead. So Henry was really into Dominoes and Marble runs, and so I was like, oh, he can watch some marble run content. And Matt was like, absolutely not. This leads to Toy unboxing. He knew that it led you to these places where you didn't want your child to go. And I was like, okay, no more marble runs.
Elise: It's good. So Matt's on it. Matt's on it.
Doree: Matt is very
Elise: On the orthorexia stuff. Yeah.
Doree: Yeah,
Elise: Because that's what you see with Teen Boys these days.
Doree: Oh
Elise: God.
Doree: I know. There's this whole world of teen boy content that I'm just not familiar with and don't really want to be familiar with, but will probably have to become familiar with. So that's fun kick that can down the road, kick that can for a while down the road. Yes. Yes. Alright, Elise, we are going to take another short break and we'll be right back. All right, Elise, we got a text that I fear is now too late because we are now officially out of Halloween season. We are deep into Christmas season, but this listener wrote a text that said, Elise buy the Costco Wolverine.
Elise: Our
Doree: Neighbors have a skeleton that they keep up all year long and they change its outfit monthly. They invite neighborhood kids to submit ideas and they encourage persuasive stories to accompany the submission. Skelly brings so much joy to our neighborhood, and I know the Wolverine would be a welcome addition to your community, and they included a photo. Can you see this photo? I'm going
Elise: To open this up. That is adorable. There's little girls hugging the skeleton,
Doree: The little girl's hugging the skeleton. There's a sign on that says Gone fishing, and it's wearing a Hawaiian shirt and sunglasses and a jaunty cap.
Elise: A jaunty cap is perfect. Yeah. So for context, if you miss the episode, I was considering spending the $220 buying a Costco Wolverine that's a life size, no larger than life-size wolverine. But then I thought, where am I going to store it? But then we were daydreaming and I was imagining maybe I would change out its outfits for the seasons, and it turns out this is what they do with Skelly in this
Doree: Listener neighborhood. Yes. I just zoomed in. Skelly also has a fishing, is holding a fishing rod net thing, and there is a little skeleton dog next to Skelly. I love this so much.
Elise: It's so great. Thank you all.
Doree: All right, well keep, that's that in mind idea too. That is a great idea. That's a great, keep that in
Elise: Mind. That's idea for neighborhood cohesiveness, like a sense of real neighborliness,
Doree: Which
Elise: I think we all need.
Doree: I completely agree.
Elise: I love seeing the trick or treaters come by and then they also though kids were trick or treating and then the parents would check my little free library only. They still didn't take a lot of books, so I'm still having late little free library churn problems. But anyway, at least it existed. At least people stopped.
Doree: Okay. Oh yes. So last, so we heard from a listener who was like, Hey, am I the only one who doesn't like Costco? And went through a bunch of reasons why they didn't like it. And you know what? Listener, you're not alone. We heard from a listener named Jen who's in the Bay area, and they said, had to pause the pod in response to the caller who said that she feels like Costco is in your face. I too dread going to Costco. I go there every week to stock up on essentials meat, eggs, milk, stuff that we eat on a regular basis. I know where to go, and I try to be in and out within 30 to 45 minutes. Sometimes I do catch myself lingering in the clothes aisle, but then I remind myself to get out as sap. One thing I do is write a list and I avoid the weekends and Friday afternoon slash evenings.
Also, the day after a holiday when Costco is closed is the busiest Costco, a friend and a foe, thanks for the pod. And then Jen wrote back and said, hi door, Elise. I meant to say that I go there every other week, not every week. If I went there every week, I would go bonkers. Also, I forgot to add that the people in Costco, their manners go out the window. Either they are aggressive with their shopping carts or they meander through the aisles and instead of pulling their carts to the side, they walk and then stop in the middle without realizing people are behind them. It's a totally stressful experience. Thanks, Jen. Jen, I have also noticed the seeming complete lack of awareness over space, people's spatial
Elise: Awareness,
Doree: And I'm like, what?
Elise: I think it's because the carts are too big. The carts are big. Maybe it's like a design problem, like a design and proportion problem.
Doree: I also think people are just in their own worlds. Also in California, people are in their cars so much they've forgotten how to behave on foot. They don't realize how much. Yeah, look at me. Yeah. They don't realize how much space they need. I got slammed into it by a bike. Right, exactly. So I hear you Jen El least you want to read this next one?
Elise: Yes. Yes. Also on this topic, hello. Just listening to Min up four 17 and have to chime in. I despise Costco. I do not get the appeal. Paying to shop. That right there makes me mad. And unless you have a family of four or more, who needs to buy all that stuff. Also, I agree with the caller, the parking is awful and that warehouse look inside is so ugly. Glad I am not alone in my disdain as she put it for Costco, I'll stick to Trader Joe's, LOL. Thank you. This is Rob's sentiment. I always want him to come to Costco to help me load the car and unload the car after, but then he's like, I don't, and then I suggest, what if we just go there for lunch and he's also a no on that.
Doree: Oh, interesting.
Elise: I like to just go get my meal. Sometimes
Doree: I do. I
Elise: Know that you can skip the store completely if you want. It's true to just go get a hot dog or a chicken bake. But she did bring up Trader Joe's, which brings us to one of the new listener favorite segments of the mini app, which is does anybody have any Trader Joe's? Rex,
Doree: Do you have any? I don't have any new ones this week because of all the covid I've been sort of behind on.
Elise: I have one
Doree: On Trader Joe's. Yes.
Elise: I ran out of dryer sheets and so I got the Trader Joe's dryer balls and they're doing great. They're working great. I got a pack of four.
Doree: Okay. Okay.
Elise: Yeah. I don't know the science behind dryer balls,
Doree: But
Elise: It's far more sustainable to use dryer balls
Doree: Than sheets. Sheets. I love dry
Elise: Balls. Yeah. Trader Joe's has
Doree: 'em. Yeah. No one should be using dryer sheets.
Elise: Yeah, so now I've made the switch. Nice.
Doree: I'm proud of you. Okay, well Elise, that brings us to the end of our show. Thanks everyone for listening. We appreciate you and we will talk to you soon.
Elise: Until next time,
Doree: Bye.