Mini-Ep 298: Get A Whiff Of That
Kate tries mouth taping and Doree wants a summer scent. Then, listeners wonder about Kate’s dog shampoo experience, question when it’s time to go back to work after raising kids, and ask how to care for your skin post bike travel.
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Kate: Hello, and welcome to forever 35, a podcast about the things we do to take care of ourselves. I am Kate Spencer.
Doree: I am Doree Shafrir
Kate: And we are not experts.
Doree: No, but we are two friends who like to talk a lot about serums.
Kate: And this, this, this, this is a mini episode where we hear from you. We share your question and your comments and thoughts, and we answer your questions to the best of our ability, which, you know, varies at time.
Doree: Please remember we're podcast hosts. We're, we're not generally experts. We have expertise in some areas, but like we're not generally experts, but we do always encourage you to seek support first and foremost, from a medical and or mental health professionals. Either. We are certainly not mental health or medical experts. That is a, that is a, that is a hard line
Kate: Right there. And we never will be, you know, that's true. Unless one, this takes a real real career turn, which is possible,
Doree: You know, I just don't. I mean, medical, no, I'm not gonna take organic chemistry. That's just not happening.
Kate: Oh my God. Can you even imagine going back
Doree: And doing one of those, like post back premed programs that people do? Oh
Kate: God, I admire you all. Who do that so much? I, I couldn't even take, I mean, I didn't even take calculus. I don't think, I think I stopped at precal cuz and I never or took physics cuz my brain was just like, you know what? I love you, but this is right now. Not for you. I took a
Doree: Thank you brand. I took calculus in physics, but I did not take like, I, I don't know all of that. Other like chemistry, I took chemistry, but like didn't really enjoy it. <laugh> and so I just, all the science, it's just not for me. Look, I mean maybe not for you, maybe that's just, I know we're supposed to be all like stem now, but I, I just, you know, I like what I like, I like math. Didn't like science. Oh you do? I do like math. Yeah.
Kate: I, I like technology. Yeah.
Doree: There you go. I mean, I feel like it's I
Kate: Like the steam, the a and steam is art. I think I like that part of things. I
Doree: Feel like we are more likely to become mental health professionals. Like if that were, if we were discussing like big career pivots, you know what I mean?
Kate: Yes. I totally agree. I also am like really not I'm squeamish about the body and like, I don't think I could. I know you, you gave yourself shots, which is amazing. Um, and I know, you know, we adapt, but I'm not sure I would be able to like give someone an IV.
Doree: Yeah.
Kate: Well I'm glad we cleared that up. Doree. I'm glad we really dug deep into if we are ever gonna become medical.
Doree: I know, I know. I feel like we really needed to unpack that.
Kate: Yeah. I mean, we say it so much and then it's like, well, what if
Doree: Well, and like, what does that mean?
Kate: What does that mean to us? Well, listen, why don't you tell us, uh, friends, you can leave us a voicemail or text us at 7 8 1 5 9 1 0 3 9 0. Or you can email us at forever 35 podcast, gmail.com.
Doree: You can, and you can visit our website forever 35 podcast.com for links to everything mentioned on the show. You can also shop all the products mentioned on the show@shopmyshelf.us slash forever 35. Follow us on Twitter at forever 35 pod on Instagram at forever 35 podcast. Join the forever 35 Facebook group, the password to serums and sign up for the forever 35 newsletter forever 35 podcast.com/newsletter. The so Doree, I wanted
Kate: To do a quick follow up on something that was mentioned, um, by me a few weeks
Doree: Ago. Okay. Let's talk about it. Which,
Kate: Which was this new con concept that was new to me of mouth taping. Yes,
Doree: Yes, yes, yes. And I feel like we heard from quite a few listeners about this.
Kate: So many people and you know what I haven't shared, we haven't, we haven't shared their responses yet, so we will do a follow up. But yes, so many people were like big mouth taping fans and they recommended a book titled breath, which I had never heard of before. Um, I believe it's breath by James Nestor. Mm I, I know again, I don't know who this person is. I'm not endorsing this book, but I just wanna say that that was recommended to us. I think many times lots of people were like, breath, breath, read this book. Anyway, I have started trying to tape my mouth at night.
Doree: Okay.
Kate: Have I told you this? IL? I don't think
Doree: I have no.
Kate: Okay. So I finally was like, what have I got to lose? I'm going to try it with, oh, and then I also <laugh> I did what you're totally not supposed to do, which I, I typed in mouth taping on TikTok and I watched a month bunch of mouth taping tos.
Doree: Okay. Okay.
Kate: And then I talked to a friend about it and she was like, oh yeah. I also tap my mouth in my sleep. And I was like, what is happening? Is everybody doing this? But me <laugh>. So I first used some like very gentle medical tape that I had after my surgery that I kept under my bed. And I tried that a couple nights and it was fine. And I, I taped it. I tape it directly cross. So lengthwise. Okay. Not, I tape it horizontal across my mouth. Mm-hmm <affirmative> mm-hmm <affirmative> mm-hmm <affirmative> um, and then I bought sleep strips by Sony fix, which is gentle mouth tape for nose breathing. And I put that on last night and I woke up at two in the morning and ripped it off. So I'm not quite sure how this is going, but I'm gonna keep trying it.
Kate: I actually find, um, and like I know a lot about, I don't know a lot about breath breathwork, but I've studied breathwork as part of my yoga practice and yoga teacher training. So I am really familiar with the concept of, of Panama as it relates to yoga. And I had forgotten how calming it was just to breathe in and out through my nose. Mm. And I've one thing I have noticed, and this is the only thing I've noticed. And I don't think this is I've. My snoring has stopped or anything. But one thing I did notice is that when I, the second I tap my mouth and I have to start just breathing in and out through my nose, I immediately calm down and I get like
Doree: Relaxed. Oh, interesting.
Kate: It's been interesting. So I just wanted to give a quick update that I, I don't know if this is gonna last, but I am a mouth taper for this week.
Doree: Okay. Okay. Okay.
Kate: How are you? My friend,
Doree: You know, I'm okay. I'm okay. Um, I I've been thinking lately that I want a summer scent.
Kate: Oh, okay. I am so here for this because I love
Doree: Smells. And I know that you, like, I feel have a summer scent.
Kate: I do, but it's gotten to the point where I wear it year round. Okay.
Doree: It's the Estee Lauder, right?
Kate: Estee Lauder, bronze goddess. Bronze gots. It's my CS. Yes. Yes. My favorite smell. I also will sometimes add on the Bobby Brown beach scent to kinda like mix it up a little a bit.
Doree: Mm-hmm <affirmative>
Kate: But yeah, I kind of, at this point where bronze got us year around, I love it so much. It's just my favorite Song.
Doree: It's your signature
Kate: Look. It is me in a bottle. All right. I'm excited for you. I was at a department star and I was doing some sniffing the other day. I was at a Bloomingdale's. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Um, so I'm curious if you have any like leaves or even like general sense that you're interested
Doree: In. So, you know, as I'm saying this, I'm wondering if I should go back to my old FA Gucci bloom.
Kate: Yes. Or I guess you should,
Doree: Because that is a really like summary, spring summary, like warm feels to me like warm weather scent, like it conjure up like sundreses and lying in a field of flowers. <laugh> picnics in the park. You know what I mean? Yes. I feel like I've been leaning a little, like Muser lately, you know, gone. Um, and that feels a little heavy for summer, to me mm-hmm, <affirmative>,
Kate: Mm-hmm <affirmative>
Doree: Interest. Like that's like more like a sun tall like that. Oh yes. That feels a little heavy to me.
Kate: Yeah. That kind of like smokey tobacco.
Doree: Exactly. And like, I love, I think that, like, I find that sense. So alluring, um, what is
Kate: Your sun tall of choice? Like, are you not a Saal 33
Doree: Person? I'm not, I'm not, um, I have the Tom Ford cental blush, which is a really nice scent. Um, lately I have been wearing the DS and DGA radio Bombay.
Kate: Oh, that's a nice one,
Doree: Which Is not a cental per se. Um, but it has sandal wood, Musk, cream, peach, Andre cocoa, and Cedar
Kate: Yu.
Doree: And it's, I mean, it's it, it's, it's gorgeous, but like, okay. So top notes of radio Bombay are radiant wood copper and Cedar heart notes are sandalwood, radiant, Iris and Barone. No idea what that is.
Kate: Radiant Iris.
Doree: And then the base base notes are Balsam, fur, absolute coconut Musk and Amber grease. So it's a lot of like woodsy musky, you know what I mean?
Kate: Yeah. I, I, well, well at Bloomingdale's I smelled Byredo's de Los Santos scent, which is
Doree: Okay and?
Kate: That Was really nice. And it, it was a little derivative of our old front in Sanal 33, but it was a lighter, not as like.
Doree: mm-hmm, <affirmative>, mm-hmm, <affirmative>.
Kate: permeating scent, but I will say, you know, they have, I like some of their lighter sense, like, um, I wonder if you would like Mojave ghost or gypsy, gypsy water by, by radio.
Doree: Yeah. I've been very by, by Rado curious, you know, what's so funny. I just searched cental on DS and D's website and the only perfume that comes up is radio Bombay <laugh>.
Kate: Oh, so you're already in it. You're in
Doree: Deep. I'm like I'm in deep in cental. Um, it's not listed as an ingredient or as like a note, but I think it's like, it's in the, it's in the family. Okay. And you know, I feel like I've been on this kind of cental thing, family woodsy, musky journey for a few years now, and I'm not ready to abandon it, but I am feeling like I just need a little bit of a, I need a little bit of a change. I need a little bit of a shift. So maybe, well, I, maybe what I will do Kate is I will mm-hmm <affirmative> take the old bottle of Gucci bloom out for a spin. Haven't used it.
Doree: Does Perfume go bad? I feel like this is like a constant question of mine. That's
Kate: A great question. I am using, I have a bottle of, um, BA Farine, which is by, oh my God. Who makes that perfume? They might not even make it anymore. I'm obsessed with it. Oh yeah. Laan perfume. Okay. Bine is an amazing perfume that smells like pencil shavings and like a, like a Bombas peanut butter snacks. I know that sounds weird, but it's like the, it's a Del it's such a Beau. It's such a good smell, but it's like a distinct scent, but I love it. But like
Doree: I bought that bottle.
Kate: I think my kids were like two and four and now they're like 11 and nine.
Doree: Oh yeah.
Kate: I'm still using it. I
Doree: Have a, um, boutique bottle of perfume. But I remember when I bought, because it was when my friend Emily came to visit me in LA in 2013. And we went to the perfume store on Beverly and I bought it. It's owed dwell, and I still have the bottle it's as you sure. It's very strong. Um, it's a beautiful scent. It's it's, it's like, it's a lot. It's a big scent. Um, right. Well,
Kate: I mean, but like, is
Doree: That, I mean, it's
Kate: Like almost
Doree: Fucking expensive. They're expensive. Like, but it's almost 10 years old. Like, is that still okay? I would love a perfume expert to let us know this.
Kate: I mean, perfume de it definitely does expire or go bad. Okay. But, and
Doree: I'm when, as
Kate: I, as I am Googling, I am reading mixed things. I'm seeing two years, I'm seeing three to five years.
Doree: Okay. Two years is not that long. I mean, if it's two years, I have to get rid of most of my perfume.
Kate: Same. And this is what makes me annoyed because they give you enough perfume to like bathe in. This is the scam. This is the product scam. It's the same with makeup, like with a big blush compact. It's like, I'm not putting blush on every part of my body every fucking day. I'm using it sparingly, make it tiny or make it last, everybody.
Doree: Yeah.
Kate: You know, I cuz I love a beautiful scent. I love perfume, but
Doree: Well that's, I mean to make it so big, I have to say like, that is why I love a roller ball.
Kate: Mm-hmm <affirmative>
Doree: You know what, it's another scent that I used to wear all the time that I think is much lighter and like a little more floral is Chloe. Oh, that's
Kate: What thank you for saying that. I was gonna say to you whip out the Chloe.
Doree: Yeah. I think, cause
Kate: That always, that's a classic that smell good.
Doree: I think I actually have an unopened roller ball, like in my stockpile of <laugh> pros, like, like some, you know, some Sephora sale when I was like, I'm gonna stock up on all my prods and like that poor roller ball has just been like sitting for, you know, seven years or something. Um, but I feel like UNOP perfume is probably has like a longer probably shelf life.
Kate: I just bought the travel size version at, when I was at Sephora, after the sale, as we've discussed, I bought Tom Ford's sole Blanc in a
Doree: Travel.
Kate: I think that's the one I bought. Okay. I'm not sure I like it.
Doree: Oh,
Kate: I basically just want it to be, I need to get myself a of bronzes. All I want is bronzes.
Doree: I mean,
Kate: If Estee Lauder is listening to this and I mean the actual person, who's no longer alive. If you're listening, <laugh> let me be your bronze goddess ambassador.
Doree: I can't believe they have not contacted you yet.
Kate: I can't either.
Doree: I mean, I can't believe
Kate: They haven't reached out to this woman. Who's sitting here doing a podcast with greasy hair in her workout clothes. How do they not want her representing their brain?
Doree: It's frankly rude. Well, Kate, listen, I have really enjoyed talking sense with you.
Kate: Ah, let's dig deeper. I love maybe we could do like a scent Roundup. You know what I would actually love to do was sorry. Yeah, that was a very caffeinated, uh, enthusiastic response. I would love for us to bring all our sense to the table and discuss it. Cause I have a lot of sense that I've never Mentioned on here. Like we could do a whole full episode just discussing our sense. That would
Doree: Be a fun thing to do IL because then we could, we could bring them and then smell everything while recording.
Kate: Oh my God. We'll have such headaches by the end of it. I
Doree: Know, but it'll be, but it'll be it worth it. Yeah.
Kate: <laugh> it will.
Doree: We're doing it for the pod.
Kate: We do it for this R this art that we do. All right. Well listen. Okay. Let's circle back. But first we're gonna take a break and hear from some listeners. Okay.
Kate: All right, Doree. Shall we hear from this first listener?
Doree: Let's hear from them.
Kate: All right. They emailed us.
Email: Hello from Dubai. I'm going on my 10th year of being an expat after having my first child, I decided to stay at home with my daughter now three years. And another kid later, I'm wondering when I'll go back to work, I have a very supportive husband and I know I'm fortunate to be able to stay home and really do enjoy it, but it can be hard and lonely. At times I recently applied for some jobs. I'm an elementary music teacher to see what was out there and was lucky enough to interview and receive a job offer. But now what, when is the right time to go back to work? Is there a right time and is it worth it? PS, shout out to my friend, Julia, who introduced me to the podcast all the way back at episode one.
Doree: Aw,
Kate: Thank you, Julia.
Doree: Um, Kate, do you have thoughts on this? I feel like this is more like this is more in line with stuff you've experienced.
Kate: Yeah. I mean, I had both my children while working full time for a large corporation. And so I had approximately 12 weeks of maternity leave with each and then I was back at work. And the first time with my first kid, I was like, get me back to work. I wanna be working. I don't wanna be here at this. Like mommy and me group. I just was like, so I loved my job so much. I was so eager to be working at it. I loved what I was doing the second time. I was like, I never wanna go back to work. So I think it depends. And I think there is no, the right time is up to you. If it's not, if your finances are not hinging on you returning to work, then there is no right or wrong time. But I can tell you as a mom of a, now nine year old and now 11 year old, both who start daycare at three months, they're doing just fine. So, you know, I think it's wonderful if you wanna stay home. But I also think your kids will be fine if you don't. And I think you should do what feels like it will satisfy you and work best for you. And what also makes sense for, you know, you can consider your family and what their needs are, but also you should be considering your own needs too.
Doree: Yeah. I, I, I mean, I don't have to add to that. And I think
Kate: Basically I'm a genius. What
Doree: You're saying. Well, you know, I think this, this, like when is the right time to go back to work thing is like similar. I feel like similar to when people are like, when's the right time to have kids. Or like when like all these sort of like, when is the right time questions? Mm. I feel like our red herrings, like,
Kate: Ooh, dig in on this. And
Doree: It's just that like, there's no right time. There's also no wrong time. Like, it's just gonna be what it is. And like, you're gonna figure it out or you're not like, maybe you'll go back to work and be like, oh, you know what? This is not what I wanna be doing. Yeah. And you'll quit because that is a thing you can do. So I just feel like we spend, we as a, as a people tend to spend a lot of time worrying about timing and like, And then when like things happen, they just happen. And we, and we figure it out and we adapt because that's what humans do.
Kate: Yeah. And I think like, you sounds like you're in a position where you can make those choices. Mm-hmm, <affirmative> your finances. Aren't, you know, like your, your family's needs, aren't going to be your family's financial needs, which I do think are an important consideration. It sounds like they are not gonna be impacted either way. Yeah. By whether or not you stay home or you go to work. And like, quite honestly, work is really fulfilling. Mm-hmm <affirmative>, you know, for many of us, so, you know, I think you can it's okay. But Doree makes the excellent point. Nothing is permanent in this situation in other situations. Yes. But in this situation it's not permanent. So you can sounds like you can make the choice if it's not working for you to stop doing it.
Doree: Amen.
Kate: All right. We received a, quite a few responses to the listener who was donating a kidney and I wanted to share one of them. It's a bit long, but it has, it's packed with great advice.
Doree: Do you want me to read this?
Kate: I think you should start, so, okay.
Doree: All right.
Email: I'm an oncology nurse. So my experience with patients is different, but hopefully relevant as we tend to have some long-term hospital stays on my unit. One, bring PJ pants slash sweatpants slash baggy shirt to wear your nurses will be helping you get to get up and walk within potentially a few hours after surgery. Yes. Really bring a big pair of cozy sweatpants with a stretchy waistband. So the nurses can help you, help you slip them on and off two slippers. Since you will be walking, bring a pair of hard soul slipper or comfy shoes to walk in. They will provide non-slip socks. If you don't have them. In my experience, OS are a safe bed, three extra long charging cable for your phone and accessories, the outlets behind your bed further away than you think four, I would ask if you'll be sharing a room, many hospitals are trying to move towards private rooms for all patients, but some aren't there yet, or will never have that kind of capacity. I would just say, if you're sharing a room, be mindful that extra scented items may not be cool with your roommate. Five. Speaking of scent, if users may be okay on L and D units, that's labor and delivery, but they are often a no go elsewhere. Perhaps a non aerosol room spray would be better. Aerosol products are dangerous mix with the oxygen tanks as Kate and Doree said, ask before using this six, bring your own toiletries hospital. Toothbrushes and shampoo are pretty bare minimum. 'em seven earplugs and eye mask. Your nurses will be coming in and out of the room. Often, if you're sensitive to light noise, these could be useful either way, be prepared to be woken up throughout the night for vital sign checks and whatnot, blanket and robe. Hospitals are cold. I wear a scrub top fleece vest and sometimes a fleece jacket. And I'm actually running around doing stuff. Patients tend to be even chillier, bring a cozy fleece blanket and or robe with you to snuggle up in hope. This helps best wishes for speedy recovery for both you and your dad.
Doree: And then Kate added bring your own pillow. And someone said video games. I feel like an Nintendo switch is like perfect for the hospital.
Kate: Ooh. Yeah. Yeah. Doesn't that sound nice? Like, you know, just sit there and switch it up.
Doree: Yeah.
Kate: Yeah. Hard agree. Hard agree. Mm-hmm <affirmative> thank you so much. Oncology nurse for weighing in. Yeah.
Doree: Thank you.
Kate: Okay. Here's another question that, uh, I'm pretty sure that when we received this email, Doree forwarded it to me and said, I can answer this. So I'm very excited to see what happens here. This person wrote.
Email: SOS. I live in Austin, Texas. Shout out to Doree's sister.
Kate: Yes. Shout out Karen.
Email: And we're getting to the time of year. It's hot. I recently pre procured a bike and I'm now biking my butt all over town. The issue you ask, I get places extremely sweaty. I feel a sense of pride in this and don't mind from a social standpoint, but I do from an acne standpoint, I have acne prone skin. And I usually wash my face with a gentle cleanser. After I sweat from a workout when biking places for happy hour, this is not a viable option though. I suppose I could wash my face in the bar bathroom. All this is to say, what can I do to keep my sweaty face from breaking out when I'm in public, after a sweaty bike ride. Thanks. Y'all
Doree: Okay. I do
Kate: take It away. You take it away, Doree.
Doree: Um, okay. I am. I'm not like a huge, I'm generally not a huge fan anymore of makeup wipes because I think they're pretty wasteful. But I think in this situation, makeup wipes are really gonna be your friend. They're easy to travel with. You can just give your face a quick wipe. They're they're also like specific wipe specifically for the body, or you can also get like baby wipes for, you know, your armpits or something. Um, but yeah, I would, I would wipe off your face with makeup wipes, like right away. I would also bring some dry shampoo.
Kate: Yes.
Doree: So this is not going to help you with like the acne, but it'll just kind of help pain the sweat. Um, so yeah, so that, that would be my suggestion.
Kate: I would add in your little like, um, uh, carry on. I carry on is the wrong word, but I'm imagining you packing like a little teeny beauty bag that you pack in your cute, your little biking backpack that you have, or maybe you put it in the little, I don't know. Do you have a basket on your bike? Um, anyway, I think the tower 28 has a very good facial spray that I have kept in my car to use after the gym.
Doree: Okay.
Kate: So it's called tower 28. SOS save our skin daily rescue facial spray. You could buy the mini from Sephora for $12. There's a four ounce that is $28. And this is quote, a simple but effective three ingredient daily treatment spray to soothe, stressed out skin and reduce the appearance of redness.
Doree: Mm.
Kate: I like a post. This is what I have as a post gym spray. And I, I do see some comments about it kind of working on acne. So that might be like, if you wipe down and then give this a spurts.
Doree: Okay. <laugh>
Kate: That might be a nice little, like one, two punch. Mm. After your bike
Doree: Ride. Mm-hmm <affirmative>
Kate: And then if you're a moisture person, I mean, just get a little, you know, travel so moisturizer and keep that in your, or like get a little teeny container and put a little light moisturizer and like, you're good to go. Like, you can do this in the bathroom. You can do this sitting at the bar for all I care.
Doree: Kate does not care. OK. You know, I don't, I
Kate: Don't care. You whip out your products at this cool skin bar that you've just biked to and you wipe your face. And then you spritz on a little bit of this tower, 28, save our skin rescue spray, and then you put a little moisturizer and you order a beer.
Doree: Okay. I mean, doesn't that sound like a dream.
Kate: Yeah. I think you can create like a tiny little kit that you bring with you that like, yeah, you can run to the bathroom. And like Doree said, do a wipe, wipe a little bit of deodorant on you. And like, you're good
Doree: To go. You're good to go.
Kate: This like, makes me wanna do this. Mm-hmm <affirmative>
Doree: Yeah.
Kate: Not a, not totally A bike anywhere, but I
Doree: Like the thought of biking around Austin in the summer. To me, just a respect. I just have a lot of respect for you because yeah. It is hot as fuck in Austin in the summer. And it's so humid like that is, I mean, you might even bring a change of clothes in all honesty. Yeah.
Kate: And I just wanna say like, everybody around you also lives in Austin. They're not gonna be like, how dare or this person wiped. Like they all know, they know what's up.
Doree: You
Kate: Know, you all made the choice to live in a hot and sweaty place. Yeah.
Doree: <laugh> that's on you <laugh>
Kate: Listen. This is actually all your fault, Texas
Doree: JK. Oh, JK. Okay. I love you.
Kate: We love you JK.
Doree: We are gonna take another short break and we'll be you right back. Okay.
Kate: Captain Dor. We
Doree: Are back. Hello, captain Kate. All right, here we
Kate: Go. Captain do. Here we go.
Doree: Here's a voicemail.
Voicemail: Hello. Just had a, a pause of the pad moment, uh, with Kate talking about her pill case and having to organize all this stuff and whatever. Um, I just wanna let you know that you don't actually have to do that if it doesn't work for you. I mean, I'm sure you know that, but like I take, oh my God, I take so much medication every single day that like, I've never been able to find a pill case really that like would fit all of my pills every day for an entire week. Um, and even if I did just the repetitive, you know, having to sort them all into the little things and blah, blah, it's just, no, it's just never, it's not for me. Um, so what I do is I have like a little cardboard box, nothing fancy. It's just switch it out every once in a while when it starts to fall apart. Um, and I just keep whatever my current regimen is in there. And every time I need to take medication, which I do about 11 times a day, um, I just go and I take it out of the bottles <affirmative> or the sprays or the tinctures or the whatevers. Um, and that works for me. Uh, whereas if I did get a pill case, I would use it. Hmm. Maybe once and then never refill it again, because it's so much more work. Um, that said, I do like keep track in my bullet journal every day that like, okay, I've taken that one and that one, et cetera, et cetera. Um, which makes it easier to remember. Also I have like medication alarms set. So I have like, I guess a whole system. Um, but yeah, if the, if the pill cases are stressing you out, fuck it. Forget about it. Get you said you already have one box, get a smaller box and just move your current shit into that smaller box. And you know, maybe, maybe you'll go through the rest of them at some point and throw them out, but let like just, yeah, no, I mean, I, I, I too would have so much anxiety about them being on the dining room table and just like looking at them and being like, oh, I gotta do all of that. You know, fuck it. Don't do it. Um, yeah, just find a system that, that actually works for you instead of trying to origami, fold yourself into what you think you're supposed to be doing. So anyway, um, good luck with your hand surgery. Hope you feel better soon. Um, God having a human body is a real crapshoot, isn't it?
Kate: It is
Doree: having A human body is a real crap shoot.
Kate: Oh, I you're totally right. Okay. So I just have to push back and say that I'm not tr I am trying to find a solution that works for me, but I do need a pill case. And here is why dear listener, the pill came helps me to know because too many times have I taken the pill from the bottle and then just two seconds later been like, did I take this? Yes. So that is why so, but here's what happened. Guess what? Another listener was like, you need a pill case where you can open it from the bottom. So you don't have to flip every tiny little container open and you just plop the pills in. So I bought those now. My whole family thinks I'm out of my mind because they're just pill cases all over my house right now, literally all over like the dining room. There's like, there was like a stack and then I got new ones yesterday and my whole family was like, wait, but you already have those. And I was like, but those don't work for my brain. So gonna link out to my new one, which pops open from the bottom and I can just plop the pills right in. And it took me like five seconds and I did a month's worth of pills last night. So I'm good to go. I'm stack and ready.
Doree: All right. I'm excited for you.
Kate: Thank you, Doree. Thank you. Recommendation coming up with that pill case. All right. Well, we received another voicemail directed at me. I didn't mean to make this like the Kate Spencer hour here at the end of this episode.
Doree: Wow. Horse. You really did it this time.
Kate: Really? This is my own little bit stable, but here's a question we received that I thought was really funny. And I did wanna clarify. All
Doree: Right, here we go.
Voicemail: Hi, Kate, uh, very intrigued by your wondercide commercials as I walk my dog and I just thinking, how the heck did you wash your hair with the dog shampoo? I mean really? Like, did you like have it in your shower because you were bathing the dog and then you just like absent mindedly, confused it with your other shampoo bar or did you, um, get it and then not realize it was for the dog? Cause it smelled so wonderful. And then you just saw shampoo on there and then used it. I just, I am really, I just, every time I hear you talk about it, I am so curious about how the hell that happened. So please Kate enlighten us. Uh, it must be awesome. Uh, but I really just wanna know how you did that. Okay. Thanks. Love the pod. Bye.
Doree: I just love the image of this listener. Just like thinking about this so much, like they can't stop thinking about it. I mean,
Kate: I get it. Cause I realize I have mentioned this so many times and yet I've never clarified how I made this mistake, which is a important part of the story. It's true.
Doree: You have clarified here's
Kate: Here's what happened. So wondercide, when they, um, reached out about advertising, they sent us a bunch of their products to try and they were very generous. Like they sent us a ton of stuff, everything from like yard spray to like actual dog flee and tick spray to insect repellant to dog shampoo. So here's what happened. Some of their products can be used on people, the insect repellant they even make like a soap. And then some are specifically just for dogs or cats. Well, I was unclear. I was like, is this it's a, it's like a shampoo bar. It says like the, the packaging looked like it was just for people. And so I was like, this must be one of their products, like the insect spray that is for P people. So I took it out of the box and I, and I always really wanted to try shampoo bar. So I was like, this is really exciting. I'm gonna try this shampoo. My, my goodness.
Doree: It,
Kate: Yeah, it was just unclear. I was confused. And so I used it and I was like, this feels a little weird going in my hair, but like fine. And then when I got out, I, I like rinsed it out and my hair was fine. <laugh> like, it was great. And then it, and then I realized like looking on their website, that the shampoo bar is specifically for dogs.
Doree: Mm.
Kate: So that is how I went on that journey.
Doree: Okay. Mm-hmm <affirmative> all right.
Kate: But I will say, like, I try had a dog, a wonder side dog product on myself and it worked really well. So I feel very comfortable endorsing this shampoo bar, which I have since used on my dogs.
Doree: I mean, what better endorsement? That's
Kate: The, that's the story? I don't even know if they're advertising on this episode, but you know what? They'll give them a little plug today. Yeah, there you go.
Doree: There you go.
Kate: Doree to the end of the road for us
Doree: Indeed. Um, this is a pleasure. I look forward to discussing, uh, perfumes and other sense with you more.
Kate: I'm excited about this too. All right. Let's get sniffing. Okay. All right. Talk to you later, everybody.
Doree: Bye.