Mini-Ep 289: Heal Moist, Heal Well
Kate and Doree dig into the shows they want to binge watch to ward off the creeping anxiety of the next wave of COVID. Then, they keep it light with listener suggestions of more French shows to try, warnings about the placement of an eggplant tattoo, and dermatologist recommendations on how to help heal a listener’s jugs.
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Kate Spencer: Hello, and welcome to forever 35, a podcast about the things we do to take care of ourselves. I am Kate Spencer.
Doree Shafrir: and I am Doree Shafrir,
Kate Spencer: and together we are not experts,
Doree Shafrir: but we are two friends who like to talk a lot about serums,
Kate Spencer: Doree. Hello, this is a mini episode, which is where we hear from listeners. We share your comments and thoughts, and we're gonna answer your questions to the best of our ability.
Doree Shafrir: indeed. But please do remember we are podcast host, not experts, and we always encourage you to seek support first and foremost, from a medical and or mental health professional as needed.
Kate Spencer: If you would like to reach us our text and voicemail number 7 8 1 5 9 1 0 3 9 0. Or you can email us F five podcast, gmail.com.
Doree Shafrir: and you can visit our website for ever35 podcast.com for links to everything we mentioned on the show. Follow us on two Twitter Fe 35 pod on Instagram at Forever 35 podcast. Join the forever 35 Facebook group at facebook.com/groups/forever five podcast. The password is serums and do sign up for our newsletter. It's always chalk full of goodness.
Kate Spencer: It really is. I enjoy receiving it well,
Doree Shafrir: Kate, I mean, you do contribute substantially to it.
Kate Spencer: I contribute, but like, I really enjoy, it feels like a letter to me too, when I get it, like, I do feel like a subscriber, so I enjoy. It's just very sweet. I like reading your little note at the beginning.
Doree Shafrir: Oh, thank you. Well, you know, people can get more notes for me. If they subscribe to my other newsletter too, you can get so much Doree in your inbox right now. It's real. It might be too much. Not for me. Um, you can do that@Doreesubstack.com. I've already done it,
Kate Spencer: but I would encourage everybody to join me in the Doree zone.
Doree Shafrir: And I will say that my newsletter from Tuesday is a real belter as Peloton instructor. Ben Aldi likes to say its a belter.
Kate Spencer: What is, what's a belter?
Doree Shafrir: It's like a banger.
Kate Spencer: Ooh, but like the British version.
Doree Shafrir: Yes, yes. Okay. He likes to call songs belters.
Kate Spencer: Oh. And that like almost makes me embarrassed for him.
Doree Shafrir: no, I love him. Oh, okay. Sorry. I don't wanna get sidetracked into like a Peloton instructor discussion, but I am really into him. He's like really sweet and kind of basic and like, just like so earnest.
Kate Spencer: and you love that. He's so kind. He's marrying Leanne. The other peloton instructor.
Doree Shafrir: I love that he is marrying leanne. Like I love their Instagrams together. Like I'm just, I'm just into him. When he, when he calls, calls things. When he calls things belters, I'm like, yes, Ben Aldis.
Kate Spencer: Okay, well maybe this episode can be a belter.
Doree Shafrir: Maybe this episode will be a belter. I mean, stay tuned, stay tuned.
Kate Spencer: Or what's the opposite of a belter, a suspender.
Doree Shafrir: That was a bad.
Kate Spencer: That was a dad joke. Joke.
Doree Shafrir: That was a dad joke. A bad. That was, that was a bad dad joke.
Kate Spencer: But you laughed and that's all I want now.
Doree Shafrir: I, I, I chuckled. Okay.
Kate Spencer: All right. Well, you know, I have to earn your laughter, but I feel like I did, did like a B plus of a job.
Doree Shafrir: Oh, Kate, you know what else? I just wanna say yes, we had so much fun last Friday.
Kate Spencer: Oh my God. We did, uh, a live book launch for forever 35 book launch celebration for my new book in a New York. It, which is now out everywhere. And anywhere you buy books and we had like 240 people on a Crowdcast.
Kate Spencer: Yeah. It was a, it was a blast. We had people abroad, not in the United States. Like I think someone was from Germany. We yucked it up. We did it.
Doree Shafrir: You know? And I, I feel like this happened when you and I did a live thing for my book and people are like, you guys should do more live stuff. And like, those people are right. We should. Okay.
Kate Spencer: Well, do you wanna, do we wanna try to schedule something?
Doree Shafrir: Yeah. Let's try to schedule something. Let's make this happen.
Kate Spencer: Okay. Well, you and I are actually having an in person. I almost just said play date. My God. I'm so used to talking about kids. I almost just said, you and I having a play date tomorrow.
Doree Shafrir: I mean, we kind of are, but it is more of a work date.
Kate Spencer: It's a working play date with, uh, our friend Danielle. And we can discuss this. IRL because I think we should do it too. I think it's really fun. It's so fun to get listeners together and just to chit chat together. And we could maybe do a fun giveaway. I think there's something there. I think there's something there.
Doree Shafrir: I agree. Let's make this happen.
Kate Spencer: I had a blast and you know, now it's like the wake of my book release week and I am just kind of crashing. And I have just been, been watching yellow jackets.
Doree Shafrir: Okay. I, I, I like did not watch yellow jackets because I thought it would be too intense for me.
Kate Spencer: It is actually scary. It's intense.
Doree Shafrir: Okay. This is what I'm afraid of.
Kate Spencer: You know what? And the first, the first day was a Saturday and I was home alone and I watched the first like five episodes till one in, and I was scared to go to bed. So I've been watching it during the day. Now. I'm also easily scared. You know, everybody has different levels of, of fear when they watch, you know, fictional television. I still feel like it's real. And so it is, it is scary and tense, but it's really good. Um, so I think, you know, you'd have to gauge your, you know, ability to work through the kind of scary gross stuff. But I know so many people have already watched yellow jackets and recommended it, but it's so freaking good.
Doree Shafrir: Okay.
Kate Spencer: But intense, I don't know if like binging a tense show qualifies as self-care for me. Because it's like really elevates my heart rate to a new level.
Doree Shafrir: I think this show and I, and I've heard such great things about it and I know that I would get into it, but I just don't know that I can like handle that right now. Like I am watching the Parisian agency. Yes. I am watching the opposite.
Kate Spencer: No, that's the Parisian agency is your version of the ice planet, barbarian books for me. Like, we can, can only take what we can take, especially right now. I mean, I don't watch euphoria, even though everybody says that I should,
Doree Shafrir: you know what I have been watching that is like, it's not depressing, but it is. It's not like comfort watching exactly. Is somebody somewhere. Oh my gosh. It's so good.
Kate Spencer: It's so good. You know, the main guy is an old friend of ours from New York. Jeff Hiller.
Doree: Oh no. That's funny.
Kate: Well, the creator is someone I've known for like almost 20 years. Oh, see, I don't know her. She's wonderful. Yeah. That show is beautiful. It's so beautiful. Done. It's so beautiful. He's so good. Your friend. No, it's his name is Jeff Hill.
Doree: Is this, this big break?
Kate: Basically. He's been on so many things. He's been in like bloody bloody Andrew Jackson on. And he's been in, he's a theater person. He's a theater person. And he also had like a small recurring role on 30 rock. Like he's done a ton of stuff, but he's an old, a guy I've known, uh, doing UCB comedy since it's like 2002. And he's the nicest person in the world. And the so freaking funny. And it makes me so happy that he's finally kinda getting this bigger moment because it's,
Doree: he's so good.
Kate Spencer: I mean, the whole show is so good, but he's really good. I know. I know. He's wonderful. Oh, he's a genuinely nice person. Oh, that's so, oh, I'm so happy to hear that. Uh, oh, can I throw in another thing that I, I just watched and really enjoyed? Yes. In people are looking for something. So, uh, last night, uh, I had really bad heartburn and at 1230 at night, I woke up and I had to Instacart myself some medication. So while I was up waiting for my Instacart, I decided to turn on comedian, Catherine Cohens, standups, and Netflix. It just came out and it's so good. Talk about something that you could watch right now. Like it's so funny. I was dying. It's so great. It's it's she comes from a cabaret background. So there's like singing and she's incredibly performative and so smart. And I just wanna like recommend it. Plus I interviewed her for a piece I wrote for in style about how to do a cat eye, because she's like a loyal cat eye wearer and her eyeliner and her name is cat and her name is cat and her eyeliner in the special, like her sharp, very kind of like thick, extreme cat eye is so good. I like watched it through the whole thing. It was so it's so her makeup is so good that just, you could even just watch it to admire that, but truly it's really excellent.
Kate Spencer: You know, it's, it's funny that you mentioned that she has a cabaret background because, so does Bridget Everett, somebody somewhere that's right. Cabaret people are like having a moment.
Doree: You know what? I welcome it. It's an art form. That is really, I think underappreciated.
Kate: Yes. Yes. Agree. No, not like I've ever done it.
Doree: Can you imagine? Oh, my, when I were doing cabaret, your cabaret show would be so good. Have you ever done standup? Was that ever a thing that you were interested in?
Kate: No, it gives me, it gives me such ADA, nothing about it is appealing. I don't, I can't think of anything I wanna say no. Okay. It just, is it my brain, like never, I have a lot of friends who do do it and, um, my brain just never got there. I don't know didn't work for me, but cabaret cabaret could be interesting.
Doree: I also into this for you.
Kate: Well, I also do feel like I am really embracing this idea of like, I should try whatever I want to try.
Doree: Yes.
Kate: You know? I'm 42. I have run out of fucks to give. And normally I say that, but I don't mean it, but I will say like having my book come out and having some people hate it. And most people have been incredibly generous with their kindness sort of, but like, everybody's gonna have an opinion, that's their right. And nobody's like gonna love everything. And it's just kind of, I kind of feel almost at peace with the fact that like, well, I'm not, I can't please everyone, but I'm still gonna do this thing. You know?
Doree: It's so it's so funny you say that because Matt and I just had a very similar conversation on excellent adventure TLDR.
Kate Spencer: My, my conclusion, like, you know, I think that after like years of podcasting, my realization has been that not everything is for everyone. And that's okay. Now, before we go take a break, can we just honor your feelings right now? Cuz you are. I think you're feeling what a lot of us are feeling and just kind of having an eye on the fact that we are most likely about to reenter into some sort of COVID search. Yeah. You know, it's funny right before we started recording, I got an email from my LA county public health. Oh I'm on those emails, email lists. And it said with gradual inquiry of BA two sub variant in LA county, like, and that is what I've been sort of like, okay, like this is, I'm starting to hear more chatter about it. And I feel like this is how this is how all the waves have started.
Kate Spencer: And so I'm just sort of like, okay, I guess, here we go again. Um, and yeah, I'm like, I guess I'm trying to figure out like what to do about sort of that creeping anxiety. Yeah. I'm having it too. And it's, it's confusing. Cause also everything right now is like the world's open again and it's like so overwhelmed. And I'm also like, like are like, are people going to treat this next wave differently? Like are, you know, are the, the mass mandates that have gone by the wayside? Like, are, are they going to be re instituted or people just gonna be like, this is life now. I don't know. I don't have the answer. I just am like, I have an eye on it. And it's sort of like, okay. Yeah. And I mean, you're a parent of a kid who still is not of an age that they can be vaccinated. And I think this definitely feels different for people who are immunocompromised for totally who have children who can't be, or, or they can't be vaccinated themselves for whatever reason, like yep. This impacts people in different ways and that's just not getting noted a lot and that's upsetting. And I just, all of it is just, uh, I don't know. I don't know. I know that I know what you mean. It's like, I wanna just be able to be in the present, but also like, I need to like shit there's stuff on the horizon. Yeah.
Kate Spencer: It's a lot. It's a lot is a lot. It's a lot. Well, we have a pretty lighthearted episode. You mean in contrast to our sort of heavy opening. Yeah. And like, I feel like sometimes we get some really intense questions, but we don't have, uh, we have more kind of lighter hearted ones in this episode. We've got some, uh, French TV show, uh, Recs for you coming up too.
Doree: I'm excited.
Kate: All right. Well let's take a little pause.
Doree: Okay. Let's do it.
Kate Spencer: All right. Well, Doree, we have heard from, uh, someone in new England, who's looking to form some friendships they wrote to us
Email: Hi Kate and Doree. I recently moved to the Burlington Vermont area and don't know, know a lot of people here I posted in the forever 35 new England Facebook group and another Burlington listener said she'd love to get together. I know you both love new England and listeners becoming friends. Could you do a shout out on the pod for Burlington forever 35ers to check out the forever 35 new England Facebook group and chime in. If they'd like to meet up maybe one day when Kate is in New Hampshire, we could all get together well.
Doree: Wow. Wow. When wait, Kate, did I talk about the cup of Joe's spreadsheet on this podcast or on excellent adventure. I think you have mentioned it here, but talked about it more on excellent.
Kate Spencer: But yes, let's let, so walk us through the story because I think what you are suggesting is someone start this for forever 35 ERs.
Doree: Yes I am. So someone emailed this to me and said, because this is, this is also a topic that has come up on excellent adventure, her like people kind of wanting to meet other people, going through infertility stuff in their various cities. And I came out strong on. Excellent. And I said, I cannot take this on, like, I cannot be good one to like, organize this, but if you wanna organize it, go ahead. Um, which is, I, I, I still hold that stance and it applies to forever 35. Um, but someone emailed and said, you know, cup of Joe readers sort of took it upon themselves to start this spreadsheet where people put their like names, emails, and location, and then like a little bit about themselves. And you could basically like reach out. You could sort by city and like, see who is in your city and then reach out and hang out. Um, so yeah, I mean, if a forever 35 listener wants to start that watch, like now, like 20 people will start working. I hope so. Um, let us know and we promote it. We cannot be in charge of it though. I already saw what happened to Kate when she tried to,
Kate: oh boy. When I tried to match people, Myrtle beach listeners. Well, there it was. So it was hard then I've realized like, I need to ask for permission before I share people's information. And then I was like, I can't be responsible for this. Like, yeah. I don't wanna be it's in case anything.
Doree: Yes. But I, but I do want people to get to connect. Like I think that's so special.
Kate Spencer: Yeah. I'm like screaming. I get so excited here. Um, so yeah. So if someone wants to do that, you have our blessing and I think that would be really cool. Would you like a, to hear a fun fact about me in Burlington, Vermont? Yes. I live lived there in the summer of 1998 with what? My best friend. Yeah. And we, we rented one room in a five bedroom apartment that was empty. Um, so we just lived in one room of this apartment that like, there were just a sea of other empty bedrooms and I worked at a dog biscuit, bakery and a telemarketing company, or I made phone calls. Wow. Yep. 19 summer of 98. And that's when I got my butterfly tattoo on my back. Oh, MES. Yep. Sweet, sweet. Late nineties MEMS. Yeah. I lived on Pearl street. So anybody who's familiar with the Burlington Vermont area look drive up Pearl street, know that I was there.
Kate Spencer: Wow. Making 6 25 an hour at the dog biscuit bakery. It was called bone-apetite. I mean, that's like a classic dog biscuit name and we used, I used to have to make the treats. They were handmade biscuits. Yeah. It was bonkers. Well anyway. Hmm. Uh, yes. And I would love to have a New Hampshire meet up. That sounds great. Um, all right. Moving on to another email. Hi, Ken, do I've never written before, but I'm going through something very unpleasant right now and feel like you too would just understand. Hmm. I've been dating a guy for the past couple of weeks and he came on strong. Like I think he was love bombing me, but also he was being genuine about his feelings. If that makes sense. He shared with me a lot of trauma he's had in, in his past and it all got very intimate, very fast.
Kate Spencer: So the point where I was uncomfortable anyway, long story short, he has a lot of wonderful qualities, but I knew this was not the right situation for me. And I just ended it while I know it was what I had to do. And it was better sooner than later. I just feel like garbage. It is so, so horrible. Hurting people. Dating is so hard. Do you have any words of comfort or wisdom? I hate knowing that there is somebody out there feeling pain or confusion because of me, I feel guilt doubt, et cetera, et cetera. Even though I knew this had to happen. Thanks so much, love everything you do. X, X
Kate Spencer: Dating is hard, but you're not responsible for this person's feelings. You're just responsible for your own. So yeah. I mean, it's look easier said than done, but you just have to like, know that you did the right thing for yourself and that person can take care of themselves. It's not your responsibility. Yeah. This is a big theme I think in codependency. Oh, I mean, I get it. I would, I totally get the feeling that like yeah. That like you are not responsible for other people's feelings. Yeah. And I think that's, that's a practice, right? Like that's something, it, doesn't just, that's very hard. You're not gonna just hear this and then be like, okay, well, and it's also tricky because that doesn't give you license to just go around being an asshole. Yes. And I, I don't think you would. No. Um, but you did what was right for you.
Kate Spencer: You did it in what sounds like a kind way.
Doree: Yes. And that's it. Now you can move on and how he reacts is, you know, how he feels right now. Like you can feel that empathy, but ultimately like you can move on with your life. I think that's great at, I mean, dating is really hard, but ultimately the point of dating, I think for many of us, not for all people, I don't wanna make sweeping statements, but like it is to meet a partner with whom you can be long term. And I think if you're both going into that with the same intention, then there is also the understanding that if it's not feeling right, you are gonna like no hard feelings, but I'm going to move on. Yeah. So I think you are handling it totally. Right. And we're proud of you.
Kate: We are. And, and what you said about it, like doing it sooner rather than later. Yes. Yeah. Like you did everything. So, um, soundly and with caring thought and I like, I really actually want to commend you for this self-awareness mm. Of like, you knew that this was not the right thing for you. Yeah. You know, and that's hard, especially when someone is coming on really strong.
Doree: Yeah. Good for you for taking care of yourself and doing what you needed to do. Yes. You're a role model.
Kate Spencer: All right. You really are. You really are. Right. Okay. Some, some texts for Doree.
Text: Hi, Kate and Doree. I was happy that you brought up the Parisian agency on yesterday's mini episode. Season one does get better. And I love season two as a fellow Francophile, I was also excited to read today about a new series on Netflix from the creator of call my agent called standing up. I think it, he, uh, I think it comes out today trying to soak in as much French TV as possible to help brush up on my French before I go to Paris this summer. Any other rec see, first of all, I'm so jealous. Okay. First of all, I didn't know that there is a new series from creator of call my agent. Why did no one tell me this standing up it's about four people trying to succeed on the Paris standup comedy scene.
Kate Spencer: Oh, speaking of standup comedy. Wow. We really tied this all together without meaning to yes we did. Um, this sounds great.
Doree: It sounds great. I look forward to watching it basically.
Kate: Doree will, I assume, would watch anything from the creator of call my agent and to be fair. So would I, um, yes. So right. Adding this to my list. Do you have any other French re are you you're still in the par for Asians? I do recommend season one of the hookup plan. Oh, right, right, right. And actually I recommend wait now I'm like, did they have two seasons or three seasons? They have like a weird any COVID season. Oh yes. They've had three seasons. I can re I can definitely recommend season one. I can also recommend season two, season three.
Kate Spencer: That's a no, that's a no, I don't, you know, I don't wanna like speak ill of anything because I, people work really hard to produce a television show. Yeah. That's true. But this, this does feel like a show that should have just stopped at season two. Mm. And yeah, I mean, I've, I've, I have gone on record as saying like, sometimes things just need to end. Yeah. I mean, you stand by your beliefs. You don't. I stand by my beliefs so I can, so yes, the first season of the hookup plan is especially very delightful. So I, I definitely do recommend that. Well, the good new is in the next text message. We have a new recommendation for French TV. Although actually, I don't know if this is in, if this is a French TV show or an American TV show. Okay, sorry. Um, right. Rec for Doree, your love of the French real estate show made me think you might like escape to the Chateau and it's extended universe on PECO. It's a reality show about a British family that buys and renovates a French Chateau. So cozy and fun.
Kate Spencer: Okay. This, this seems cute. I'm I'm willing to give it a, a thought, a thought, a shot. Gonna give it just a thought. I'm just gonna think about it. This seems cute. Escape to the show. It's a British show. Yeah, but that feels like you could, you could get, you could fuck with a British show set in France. I could, I don't. That feels have, do I have peacock? I don't think I have peacock, but I can remedy that. Oh. So I'll just come over and watch it. You should, because you've gotta watch girls five ever. Oh yeah. That's true. And that's on peacock. Um, all right. Well, thank you for this wreck. Listen, everybody. These are good. These are good. One day, once, maybe when I'm done with yellow jackets, I'll I'll dip a toe into French into the, the Parisian. No, I would watch the hookup plan first, I think. Cause you, you would enjoy it. Yeah. You've said that. Okay then. Okay. All right. Be All right, Kate, we have a couple of voicemails to wrap things up. So here we go.
Voicemail: Hi there I'm because I needed to respond to the question of starring on the woman's breast. After applying an adhesive, I'm a dermatology resident and we love Aqua four. But the thing that needs to be said is that you should never let a lesion scab because a scab will cause a scar. So you basically want to apply thick layers of Vaseline or Aqua before on the site and let it heal. Quote, unquote moist. And don't let it dry out because if you let it dry out, it will stay. And then the scab is more likely to form a scar. Thank you. Bye.
Doree Shafrir: Kate, have you ever heard the expression heal moist?
Kate Spencer: No. I kind of have known this about some things, but I feel like I get them confused. Like I get like burn treatment mixed up with scarring. Like my, I can't, but yes, I have. I have heard of this concept. Like you don't want certain things to dry out. Yeah. But, but that goes against like, feel moist. Moist is so gross. Does it, or is it the name of this episode? That is the question heal moist. Esent gross, but Hey, a dermatology resident called in to tell us to do it, so we've gotta do it. Yes. Um, all right. And, and I hope the original listener checks back in and lets us know yeah. How their boobs are. Are these days, poor boobs, man. Poor boobs, boobs. Can't catch a break, you know? Yeah. All right. Well, we also received a response in order in, in order and a response to, uh, me, yamering about maybe getting a eggplant emoji tattoo, uh, a caller wrote in with some thoughts about tattoo placement. And I thought this was very interesting. I hadn't thought about this before.
Voicemail: Hi, this is Susie in Florida and I'm out walking my dog and had to actually pause the pod, talking about the eggplant emoji. Let me just offer this up. I'm in my mid sixties and many times when I see other equally, my peers let's say, um, who have either tattoos or really bad varicose veins. Sometimes it's kind of hard to tell as our skin loses collagen. So my thought is the one year one sounds great. But if do the real tattoo, I always put it somewhere that maybe isn't gonna look like you just got a tiny little bruise or you have fighter just, I thought have a great day. It's beautiful in Florida. And love the podcast started the book couple days ago and I'm loving it. Why?
Kate Spencer: Wow. Now I had never thought about this, this rocked my world. Like I've never just kind of, I have thought about like, what happens to the tattoo when like, you're like, you don't want it anymore and you're older, but never like, or skin loses collagen. Yeah. And then I reflected on the tattoos that I currently have and what they're gonna look like. I dunno. This is so interesting. Was the listener saying that the tattoos start to look like varicose veins essentially? I think depending on what the tattoo is, what the placement is. So I shouldn't get like a long vein tattooed on my leg. Like that would be, would make things worse. I just got like a long,
Doree: no, actually Kate, I think you should.
Kate Spencer: Uh, yeah, I I'm, I would love to know, you know, my great uncle had a big anchor. He was a sailor and fisherman and a boat guy and he had a big anchor tattoo in his arm. He was like very classic. He was very old school. Yeah. He was born in like 19, you know, 18, so of a different generation. But I do, I am curious how people a little bit older than us, like how do your tattoos age? Like how does that, how does that work for you? You know, just a thought again. I only have two, so I don't, I'm not too worried. Although one is on my arm and I guess it could it's is right over my veins. Um, I did appreciate her observation that a, an eggplant emoji tattoo in particular could look like a bruise a hundred percent. No, not even a question. It's going to look like a strange phallic bruise. Yeah. And not a hilarious eggplant emoji. Oh yeah. Again, I'm probably not gonna do it, but if my, if I have some sort of amazing like book moment, maybe I'll go For it,
Kate Spencer: But I would get it too. I could get it like on my stomach or something where no one's gonna see it Or my butt. Yeah. Yeah. Or your butt, My butt. How do you think your husband would feel about? Uh, I mean, not that it matters, but I'm just curious of course, like what would his reaction be if you suddenly had an emoji tattoo on your butt? You know, he's used to me by now. Like I think he wouldn't even blink. He would just be like, okay. I don't even, my kids would blink because they,
Kate Spencer: Just feels like something I would do. So I suspect he would just be like, okay, right. Like you really wanna do that. Right. There's the woman I married. Yeah. Making him, Okay. This has been a joy. What a treat? What a joy I am. You know what? I am going, let myself, and we're done recording. I'm gonna go back to watching the last two episodes of yellow jackets and it's just the middle of a, a Monday and I'm going for it. Wow. That's my self care. Yeah. I'm excited for you. Thank you. Quite honestly, I will report back and like, you know, how it feels, uh, and talk to you later this week and thank you everybody for listening.