Mini-Ep 272: No Sad Shows Allowed
Kate bites the bullet and gets genetic testing and Doree realizes she cannot consume any sad media. Then, listeners write in with good celebrity relationship reunion news, to ask about home LED face masks, and to lament their high school superlatives.
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Kate Spencer: Hello and welcome to the forever 35 podcast. I wait a second. Nope, I got it wrong. This is a podcast about the things we do to take care of ourselves and I'm Kate.
Doree Shafrir: Uh, I am Doree Shafrir.
Kate Spencer: You know, we say we're not experts, clearly. I'm not an expert at doing the intro of this podcast that we've been doing for four years. And you know, we're also just two friends who like to talk a lot about serums,
Doree Shafrir: And this is a mini episode, or we hear from you, we share your comments and your thoughts, and we do answer your questions to the best of our ability.
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Doree Shafrir: That is all the biz.
Kate Spencer: There we go.
Doree Shafrir: I just wanted to say that you got some good news lately.
Kate Spencer: I mean, I don't know, actually, like in hindsight, is it good news, but it's definitely clarifying. And that is that I did genetic testing for, uh, 84 genes related to cancer. A real sexy activity, a real, real fun, real lighthearted. Uh, if you're new around here, you might not know that my mom died of pancreatic cancer when she was 56 and it was, uh, very random and out of the blue, you know, like one day she was just tootin' along and the next day she had a terminal illness. And so I, there can be genetic, um, connection with pancreatic cancer. And so I have put off doing this out of major anxiety for like 15 years, but finally I was like, I should get tested for some of these genes. And I don't, I have no genetic, uh, predisposition to any cancers, which doesn't ultimately mean I'm not going to get cancer, especially because I have family history, but it was, it did just give me a little bit of like relief and clarity just to know.
Doree Shafrir: Yeah. Totally do. What do you know what percentage of cancers are genetic
Kate Spencer: Doree, I am not a medical expert. I don't know the answer to that. I'm sorry to disappoint you. No, it's fine. I'm just what percentage of cancers are genetic? It says here, according to Google, when it says subtype, pancreatic inherited genetic mutations play a major role in about five to 10% of all cancers. So yeah, I, I basically am not predisposed is what I understand it to be again, that doesn't mean I'm, I'm still, I'm still considered higher risk because of family history.
Doree Shafrir: Right, right, right. Okay.
Kate Spencer: Um, and so I don't wanna discount that. That is still like me not getting pancrea cancer is still like my number one priority in life. Um, you know, but this was very, this was good for me to do, felt like real self-care from not real, not that any self, not that anything is not valid as self-care, but this felt to me, like, I, it was really, I was really nervous and it felt good to know. Now if I had gone, if I'd gone the other way, like, what if I had found out something different that I would, I would, I would still be glad to know, but I would probably be having a much harder time processing it. And I think, I think it's that there are mutations in certain genes that connect with hereditary cancers.
Doree Shafrir: Right, right, right. Like the BRCA gene is probably the most well known.
Kate Spencer: Exactly. I think BRCA is the most common I was tested for that. I do not, I do not have it. Um, and pancreatic cancer can be associated with BRCA one and BRCA two from what my very loose research.
Doree Shafrir: Oh, interesting.
Kate Spencer: Yeah. So yeah. So I wanted to check all that out. So, you know, I don't know. It felt good to, it felt good. It's scary. Any, anyone else out there who, uh, has thought about doing this? I definitely recommend it, but I totally, uh, understand the fear involved cuz it's weird. And also it's just weird to know. I asked a very dumb question where I was like, is my DNA going? Is it ever gonna change? She was like, no, this is the DNA. Like I was like, that's the, the most basic like middle school science? No, of course it's not gonna change. It's like a photograph of your entire being. But anyway, you know, I don't know much about DNA Doree.
Doree Shafrir: I mean, I feel like I only learned what I know when I started going through IVF. Mm
Kate Spencer: That's. So you had to take like a crash course. I imagine.
Doree Shafrir: I mean kind of. You just like, it's just like part of the conversation in a way that like I'd never thought about before
Kate Spencer: Mm-hmm <affirmative> well, uh, kind of related my daughter who was in fifth grade, he did help with some algebra and she was like, can you help me with this? And then showed me the problem. And I literally couldn't understand what it was like. And, and, and to watch her process, the fact that her parent didn't know how to do her math homework question was really fascinating. Like I kept being like, I promise you, I really don't know what this is. Like, I'm not just saying this to you.
Doree Shafrir: Right.
Kate Spencer: It was very, it was a very humbling moment in my life. <laugh>
Doree Shafrir: How did she take it?
Kate Spencer: Well, it was like a long night. She had put off the homework, so it was like eight o'clock. And so she was already, she had missed a lot of school because we thought she had COVID. So he was doing all this makeup work. So she was already frustrated because it was stuff she didn't get to learn in school. And I think it was the assumption that like, oh, my parents will just know this and Anthony and like, we eventually figured it out. Anthony came in too. And he was like, I haven't used algebra since I was like 14. And I was like, yeah, I don't, I don't know how to solve for X.
Doree Shafrir: Right. <laugh>.
Kate Spencer: like, I don't know what that even means. <laugh>
Doree Shafrir: Uh, got it.
Kate Spencer: I feel like it was one of those moments where it's like, uh, we are, we disappoint you. Like we are not who you think we are, which is only gonna happen more and more as she gets older. And she realizes the truth about us.
Doree Shafrir: That's so interesting. Gosh, I guess this is what I have to look forward to.
Kate Spencer: Oh, there's so much, there's so much. Do you want another anecdote from teen parenting or teen parenting?
Doree Shafrir: I would love, I would really actually love that.
Kate Spencer: One. We were talking about sex at dinner, long story. I won't get into it, but, and then like my kids have, we've talked openly about sex, you know, in an age appropriate way. And I think they didn't like, they were still wrapping their heads around the fact that, um, people have it. I don't know. They were like, and I said to them, I was like, well, it's like a lot to process. It's a lot. And, and they were like laughing about how that was like how they were created. And I was, well, you know, like, this is how many of your friends were created. So like, you can look at a lot of your friend's parents and they can, they probably hit sex to make your friends like, not all of them. And then we were talking about IVF and obviously adoption and all the, you know, like they know all the different things, but that they were out of their minds. Like, I don't think they'd ever looked at any other. They had never looked at other adults and like considered this. And they were like, then they were like listing every adult they could think of. And they were just like, oh,
Doree Shafrir: Oh my God, That's so funny.
Kate Spencer: So that's, what's going on over here. How are you handling things Doree? I know you've got a lot on your plate this week.
Doree Shafrir: No, I'm just, I'm just like laughing at like the things you can see, say to like blow the mind of a tween. And one of those things is genuinely like all your friends' parents have had sex. <laugh>
Kate Spencer: <laugh> yeah. <laugh>
Doree Shafrir: Oh my God. I dunno why I find that so funny, but I mean,
Kate Spencer: I don't wanna think about my friend's parents. Like I get it. It's just weird. Of course. Like, nobody wants to think about anyone else, anyone older as like a sexual being, but Emily, there was that great article in the New York times about like 70 year olds doing it. Yeah. Yeah. So yeah. Work gonna be, we're gonna be bumping it for a long time. My kids better get ready.
Doree Shafrir: Oh my God. Um, yeah. Well, on another note, I just wanted to see if anyone else has been feeling like it's really hard for them to consume anything sad or depressing.
Kate Spencer: I mean, definitely. I feel this way.
Doree Shafrir: I'm talking about like books, movies, TV, et cetera. It's just like, I don't, I don't want it
Kate Spencer: <laugh>. I mean, why do you think I've read approximately 20 books about aliens and humans falling in love? Like that is where I'm at. I mean,
Doree Shafrir: I, I get it. You know what I'm reading now?
Kate Spencer: What, what.
Doree Shafrir: Jane Austen <laugh>. Oh,
Kate Spencer: Yes. Which one?
Doree Shafrir: I'm reading persuasion. Which I think I haven't ever read.
Kate Spencer: I've never read it. Ooh. Are you enjoying it?
Doree Shafrir: Yeah. I mean, she is so and so like, I mean her, like her, her observations about people and like the human condition and the way people interact and like class difference. I mean, she's just such a genius and like it's, it's, it's great. Of course. But yeah, I was like, I just, I I'm gonna like retreat into Jane Austen.
Kate Spencer: <laugh> what could be more soothing than Jane? I mean, I mean, not,
Doree Shafrir: Not much to be honest. Um,
Kate Spencer: I think this is a very, um, very real way to be feeling, especially right now.
Doree Shafrir: Yeah.
Kate Spencer: Uh, I I'm with you a hundred percent. I mean, why do you think Cobra Kai is like the most popular TV show <laugh>, You know?
Doree Shafrir: Oh God. Yeah.
Kate Spencer: You know, that doesn't require a lot of emotion. Emotional investment.
Doree Shafrir: That's True. I mean, like, I haven't even started yellow jackets because it seems too intense for me.
Kate Spencer: I haven't started it either. I want to, I think I could do it. Um, we watched someone somewhere or excuse me, we watched somebody. I, I wanna see that. Yeah. We watched somebody somewhere. Um, and it was really good, but it is sad and dark and it was hard.
Doree Shafrir: Really?
Kate Spencer: Yeah. Yeah. It's really, but it's really good. It was really good. I mean, I don't watch euphoria because I feel like that will stress me out.
Doree Shafrir: No, I don't watch Euphoria either. So yeah. I don't know. Is this just like, I guess this is just like a coping mechanism?
Kate Spencer: Well, I think it is really valid. I mean, there are not, everyone might feel this way, but like, for me, it's very hard to consume content that I find triggering in a way. So like for example, circling back to things with pancreatic cancer, anytime I, that anytime there's a dead mom or a pancreatic cancer storyline, it's really hard for me to stick around because it just takes me somewhere else, you know, but if there was like a, you know, another tragic thing, I might not have the same feelings. So sometimes it's trigger. It's triggering sad. Like it's making, we're already sad.
Doree Shafrir: I mean, well, that's why I can't watch yellow jackets because cannib is, is very,
Kate Spencer: You were stranded on an island <laugh> with your teen sports team. <laugh>
Doree Shafrir: Uh, um, no, I, I totally get it. I was also just thinking like, lately it has been a feeling like our, like we have like a finite empathy bucket and because the world is such a shit show right now, and there's just tragedy all the time. <laugh> that like, that is where my energy, my empathy and my energy and my sadness is like being expended. Like when things are better, I have more capacity to consume things that are sad.
Kate Spencer: I totally see you did, did something trigger this? Like, were you reading or watching something and were you like, I just can't do it anymore? Or is it just kind of an overall feeling that you've had in terms of your consumption habits?
Doree Shafrir: Well, it was a couple of things. One was like, honestly, yellow jacket.
Kate Spencer: Oh, Doree's got a real yellow jacket crisis.
Doree Shafrir: Well, I was like, I really wanna watch this. Like I know I love everyone in it. Everyone's talking about it. There's the nineties. Like, you know, I feel like in a different universe, I would really like this show, but like, it seems so intense and just like over, I was just like, I don't know, but you know what I could do. And I have done this with a couple other shows is I can read I'll read spoilers.
Kate Spencer: Mm.
Doree Shafrir: And then watch.
Kate Spencer: Yes.
Doree Shafrir: And that takes away kind of some of the intensity for me.
Kate Spencer: That's really smart.
Doree Shafrir: Um, so I could do that. The other thing I was just like, I was just idly scrolling in the Libby app the other day. Like, you know how it's like, your library has new and now like, you know, of course the line books or whatever, and I'm just like scrolling and I'm like looking at all these books, I'm like, Nope. Too depressing. Nope. Too sad. Nope. <laugh> just like eliminating things every,
Kate Spencer: Yeah. I mean, I mean, this is why look Doree, this is why I think romance is such a fantastic genre for so many reasons, but it's well,
Doree Shafrir: Jane Austen Is Romance.
Kate Spencer: Ah, I know. I mean the, uh, one of the originals, the OG, the queen, but yeah. I mean, this is why I'm so drawn to it is because it really, for me as a reader and a writer, like it just is soothing and it feels good. Whereas like so much consumption. I mean, I was even stressed out about a guy on below deck cheating on his girl. Like even below deck was stressing me out. There's white fragility and racism and oh, I just couldn't handle it. Wow. Even below deck, even below season of below deck. Yep. Deck.
Doree Shafrir: Your refuge!
Kate Spencer: Yeah. I thought it was gonna be soothing. And then I was like, I can't, there were literal white tears, literal white woman tears on below deck. Oh God. Recently. And I was like, I'm I can't, I can't this. I mean, anyway.
Doree Shafrir: All right. We are gonna take a short break and we'll be right back.
Doree Shafrir: All right. We are back with an email.
Hi Kat and Dor! Just listening to mini-ep 269 where Kate was talking about how she needs some good celebrity relationship reunion news and I wanted to share one I recently learned about that made me SO HAPPY! Trevor Noah and Minka Kelly appear to be back together! I was bummed when I learned they broke up earlier in 2021, but it appears she spent the holidays with him in his native South Africa, and that things have rekindled. As someone in my late-30s, I take great joy in these two incredibly sexy, smart, 40 yos hopefully living their best lives with each other. Cheers!
Kate Spencer: Okay. I love this. This is great news. And I gotta say, I love this. I don't know much about Minka, but I mean, Trevor. No. Have you, have you read or listened to his autobiography?
Doree Shafrir: No, I haven't. Should I?
Kate Spencer: It's so good. Yeah. It's so good. Ooh. Yeah, highly recommend. Uh, and I love it. He's his audio book is really great. That's how I listened. That's how I read it. So, I mean, this is great news. This is great news.
Doree Shafrir: This is exciting. Even though I, I know that Minka Kelly and Milo Kunis are two different people, but I constantly get them mixed up in my head. This is interesting
Kate Spencer: Cuz I get Minka Kelly mixed up with a Leighton Meester.
Doree Shafrir: Oh yes. I see that too.
Kate Spencer: Right. Mm-hmm <affirmative> they could all three of them just kind of mm-hmm <affirmative> mm-hmm <affirmative> is it the, is it the M that's involved in
Doree Shafrir: Their name? I think the M I think they do all kind of look alike.
Kate Spencer: I mean, I almost just said to you, I get Minka Kelly mixed up with the girl from Friday lights and then I just realized she is the girl from Friday night lights. She is, yeah, she,
Doree Shafrir: She is the girl from Friday night lights.
Kate Spencer: Sorry, Minka. Anyway, I'm really happy for her and Trevor Noah. They are a hot couple.
Doree Shafrir: That is exciting.
Kate Spencer: And I hope it lasts. Mm okay. Feeling better, feeling better. Yep. All right. Well then someone wrote to us
First time writing in but have been listening religiously for a few yrs now.
Kate Spencer: Thank you.
You guys are my ultimate influencers.
Kate Spencer: Listen, I mean, thanks again, but God, speed to you.
You guys are my ultimate influencers and Tysm for all the recs from Courtney Chiusano (love her!) to tv shows (My fiancé and I have been loving What We do in the Shadows). Courtney recommended an LED face mask in order to prep my skin to be wedding ready. I’m a bit overwhelmed when doing the research, but did y’all have any recs for at home LED face masks?
Kate Spencer: Well, as a matter of fact, I use one and I'm happy to share. I wrote about it for in style magazine. Uh, excuse me. I wrote about it for instyle.com for our column, the new age. And I will share a link to that piece, but I basically used the doctor, Dennis Gross, spectral light face wear pro, which is a, a mask, an L E D light mask,
Doree Shafrir: That's a mouthful
Kate Spencer: it's so long. It's like a Royal title. It is, but I used it for about 21 days and I really like it. And I have continued to use it daily, although I will confess I haven't used it for a couple days because I need to charge it and I'm lazy and I haven't found the charger, but I use it every day. And from it's my understanding that with L E D light products, you have to be consistent like thing, like anything, you have to be consistent with it. Um, but you could also go get professional L E D uh, light done with an esthetician or, you know, at a med spa. Um, the one downside to this product is that it costs $435.
Doree Shafrir: Oh, that is a lot.
Kate Spencer: It's a lot of money. So you need to do with that, what you will, but I will say it's so easy just to put it on, you press a button, sit there for three minutes and then you're done, like, it's the easiest skincare tool I've ever used.
Doree Shafrir: Wow.
Kate Spencer: Now another product that I do like is the solo wave, which is a, is a wand which has red light therapy. And it also has as microcurrent.
Doree Shafrir: Ooh.
Kate Spencer: Mm, wait, it has, let me, let me, let me make sure I am saying exactly. Okay. So it has massage. It has it's warms. It has microcurrent and red light therapy. It's not, I don't think it's as strong as something like to Dennis. Um, but it's about 150 bucks. It's also a wand. So you actually have to like, do the, do some work. You have to move it around your face, which quite honestly I'm I just like the mask is the easiest for me. So those are my, those are the only two products I've used. Doree. Have you tried any products yourself?
Doree Shafrir: I have not.
Kate Spencer: Okay. Well, the other thing I would say is that there are a lot on the market and I think it's just worth, you know, picking one up and trying it, um, and seeing if you like it.
Doree Shafrir: I think that is great advice, Kate.
Kate Spencer: Thank you, Doree. Thank you so much.
Doree Shafrir: Um, right. Shall we listen to a voicemail?
Voicemail Caller: Hi Kat and Dor! First time, long time I have at a strange occurrence at work and I'd like, get some opinions on, maybe reframing it, or maybe I'm not overreacting. I came into work this morning. And there was a religious pamphlet on my desk with a sticky note that said, pass it on no name attached. And the pamphlet was about very Christian about meeting salvation, accepting Jesus. Um, very aggressively religious. I am not religious company is not religious. It's not religiously affiliated. And I found it really inappropriate that someone would lead this on a coworker's desk. I haven't brought it to HR. I've only discussed it with my partner because I was so taken aback by it. But I'm wondering if maybe I'm overreacting or if it's really, it's such a strange thing to do anyway. Love you guys. Thank you so much. I appreciate it.
Kate Spencer: Uh, yeah, that's a really strange thing to do. I completely agree. Doree. It is wildly inappropriate and you should immediately go to HR. Wow. Like that's it. That's the end of the conversation.
Doree Shafrir: Yeah. How weird and creepy.
Kate Spencer: We, sometimes my kids will sometimes get these little religious pamphlets when they go trick or treating.
Doree Shafrir: Oh really?
Kate Spencer: Mm-hmm <affirmative>, they're called trick or traps. It's a company. And I didn't know. I'd never seen any, anything like this, but because my husband grew up, uh, evangelical, he had had more exposure to stuff like this. Um, but there are these like little Pam, like little cartoon booklets about like how you're going to hell and people will give them, they pass them out trick or treating. So, and it's, you know, I mean, I think that is completely inappropriate but like at least in that situation, I am my kids and I are walking up to that person's house and they have a right to give whatever they want out from their house. Like at work. It's not like, no, no, no, no.
Doree Shafrir: Mm-hmm <affirmative> no, no, no,
Kate Spencer: no, no, no. All right. So you, that person can have, you know, Jesus is the reason for the season in their own lives, but not at work, no religion. No like, no. Okay. I think we agree on that one. Right? Doree <laugh>.
Doree Shafrir: we agree.
Kate Spencer: Hard. Agree. You are not overreacting. You're not in the wrong.
Doree Shafrir: No, my God. No, no religious reference intended. Um,
Kate Spencer: oh, good one. Good one.
Doree Shafrir: Thank you. Okay. Let us take another short break.
Doree Shafrir: All right. We are back. We had a brief conversation on a recent episode about high school superlatives. I don't remember how this even came up
Kate Spencer: Because this person was voted something insulting and has stuck with them forever. I believe what it was. They were voted most likely to complain and their now their whole lives. It has. Yes, yes. Ugh. It is like hovered in their brain that they are quote unquote a complainer. And, and I, and that, this filled me with a deep rage at how, uh, this is so SC and so cruel. And so unnecessary. superlatives is where we landed. <laugh>
Doree Shafrir: We landed at fuck superlatives <laugh> While I'm at it, I will also say these were not things that were done at my high school, but I think the concept is so gross. homecoming king and queen.
Kate Spencer: all of that prom king and queen. Oh
Doree Shafrir: Yes. Like the most those homecoming gendered
Kate Spencer: Gross
Doree Shafrir: Like popularity contest, gross things. It's like so gross.
Kate Spencer: So upsetting come to our high school where it's egalitarian and we have none of this, our high school meeting, the one you and I are gonna make in my head.
Doree Shafrir: We didn't even have like class president. We didn't do any of that really?
Kate Spencer: Or school, school, president, you know, anything like that? Nope. I mean, Doree, I was middle school president. I was sixth grade vice president, seventh grade class president. Wow. Sophomore year president. I was very involved in student government. I was on the disciplinary
Doree Shafrir: Committee. There was a student, there was a student government, but it's not clear to me what they did for like, I don't know.
Kate Spencer: <laugh> oh, Doree,
Doree Shafrir: There was definitely no like president of the class though. That was not a
Kate Spencer: Thing. Wow. That's so interesting. Okay. Well we had some feedback on this. Um, so one listener emailed us and they said, hi cat, do last year. My son's high school had a big yearbook drama. When the superlative was most, excuse me. When the superlative, most likely to get COVID was somehow allowed in the yearbook, then stickers were placed over the page to correct. Then the stickers ended up being able to be taken off the parent of the child who quote one, that one was thrilled. Total show. No more high school superlatives, please.
Doree Shafrir: This is
Kate Spencer: <laugh> what, what?!
Doree Shafrir: Oh my gosh,
Kate Spencer: This is crazy. This is so inappropriate.
Doree Shafrir: Yeah.
Kate Spencer: Oh my, my goodness. I can't even imagine also like, oh my God, what is that? Even? What does that even mean about that person? Like what does that anyone can get co like the moral shaming around COVID is so misguided, right?
Doree Shafrir: Totally.
Kate Spencer: Uh,
Doree Shafrir: Ew. Sorry. Well, along similar lines, we got another text.
Omg Most Likely to Smash The Patriarchy really hit home! My evil high school boyfriend and I were voted "Common Room Couple" for having too much PDA in the common room and I had to literally hide that yearbook from my parents. My evil boyfriend was also voted "Most Likely To Win A Nobel Prize" of course. Down with superlatives!
Kate Spencer: I do too. Don't you wanna know the story because they were making out all over in the common room. Also. What is the common room? I love a high school with a common room. What
Doree Shafrir: Is that? Yeah. Had I had a similar question? <laugh> is it like a student lounge?
Kate Spencer: We had a student lounge, but I went to a private school and that's a real private school thing to have. I think
Doree Shafrir: We had there <laugh> was, is getting real niche. But at Brookline high school, I don't know if it still exists. There was a school within a school. I was not part of it, but a bunch of my friends were, and they had a common room. They had a lounge that you could go and like hang out in.
Kate Spencer: They had a school within a school mm-hmm <affirmative> wow. And school got their own lounge. I would be very jealous if the school within my school had nicer amenities than my school, the bigger school,
Doree Shafrir: It still exists school than a school still exists.
Kate Spencer: Wait, it's called wait, Doree. It's called it's
Doree Shafrir: Called school within a school. Within a school. It's called S SWS school within a school. Everyone calls it S Ws, but wait,
Kate Spencer: and what is it? Oh, God. Now we're getting real. Okay. Never. Okay. Nevermind. And we don't need to talk about that. We can just all Google school within a school Brookline. Yeah. Wow. I mean, okay.
Doree Shafrir: Okay. Yeah, the, the very cool again. I was not part of it, so I was not that cool, but um, well
Kate Spencer: Look, it looks very cool school within a
Doree Shafrir: Cool it's pretty, it's pretty cool. <laugh> and they had a lounge <laugh> and they had
Kate Spencer: A lounge. More importantly, let's get back to this lounge.
Doree Shafrir: They had a lounge. Okay. And so the rest, but us did not,
Kate Spencer: This Lister was making out in the lounge and then got dragged for it in the yearbook. I mean, I hate this kind of stuff. So much, also most likely to win a Nobel prize that guy's never gonna to go on to win a Nobel prize. Number one.
Doree Shafrir: Oh yeah.
Kate Spencer: You know? Yeah. What is that evil boyfriend doing right now? Being evil. I'm sure. But.
Doree Shafrir: I don't know.
Kate Spencer: Mm-hmm <affirmative> I would love to hear if anybody else had a high school superlative. We did not do that, but I would now I kind of wish I had one to lament.
Doree Shafrir: Yeah. I mean, I do. And I don't <laugh> but I could see how I could see how these things would stay with you. Oh, you know what I mean?
Kate Spencer: I'm a hundred percent. I mean, I it's. So like, it's like permanent it's permanent.
Doree Shafrir: Mm-hmm <affirmative>.
Kate Spencer: and it's this feeling of like, this was voted on, like who decides this? Like now I'm looking at superlatives online. Best couple. That never was how awful is that?
Doree Shafrir: Oh, that is sad.
Kate Spencer: Life of the party mean I hate, I hate this. I hate this. This makes me so angry. Most talkative. Like all these are just annoying. Yeah. I, dear God, although that being said, I can't wait to go through my kids' high school yearbook and like pick apart the superlatives. I love a yearbook.
Doree Shafrir: <laugh> yeah. As long as they're not about you.
Kate Spencer: No. Or my kids, I mean, my, we have an elementary school yearbooks and so every year I love looking at the yearbook and seeing everybody's photos.
Doree Shafrir: Well, this was a journey as per use and yeah. Kate, great to talk to you.
Kate Spencer: Yes, will TTYL.
Doree Shafrir: all right, bye.
Kate Spencer: Bye!