Mini-Ep 357: Dip Your Biscuits
Kate reminds Doree that lice is still around and does not discriminate and they both hear from listeners about what we’re supposed to do with that plastic inner lid in our skincare prods, mixing up your IRL friends with your podcast friends, and what body wash is all the rage right now.
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Kate: Hello and welcome to the Forever35 Podcast, which is a podcast about the things we do to take care of ourselves. I am Kate Spencer,
Doree: And I am Doree Shafrir.
Kate: And we are not experts.
Doree: We are not, but we are two friends who like to talk a lot about serums.
Kate: And this is a mini episode where we hear from you, we share your comments and your thoughts, and we answer your questions to the best of our ability.
Doree: But please do remember, we are not experts. We're podcast hosts and we do encourage you to seek support first and foremost from a medical and or mental health professional as needed.
Kate: If you wanna reach us, our voicemail and text number is (781) 591-0390, and our email is forever35podcast@gmail.com.
Doree: And do remember that you can visit our website forever35podcast.com. For links to everything we mentioned on this show, we are an Instagram at @Forever35podcast. There is a Forever35 Facebook group at facebook.com/groups/forever35podcast. The password is serums. Sign up for a newsletter forever35podcast.com/newsletter and you can shop our fav prods shopmy.us/forever35
Kate: Hi Doree.
Doree: Hi, Kate.
Kate: Hey, I just wanted to say as we talk more about how, what are they calling it? The triple demic or what is this called right now?
Doree: The Triple Demic. Yeah, the Triple Demic. The
Kate: The Triple Demic, which is Covid...
Doree: Covid, Flu, RSV.
Kate: Yes. Not to mention Norovirus is everywhere. I feel like everybody I know, neurovirus, projectile, vomiting,
Doree: HFM, hand, foot, and mouth. There's just strep.
Kate: There's like strep.
Doree: A really bad strep outbreak going around just like, yeah.
Kate: And then of course just your're, like your general cold.
Doree: Yes. Your garden variety cold.
Kate: Which is what I think I had last week. My child had the flu, but I seem to have just had a cold. I didn't get a fever. So that's why, that's how I'm differentiating. And I never got tested for the flu, so I'm assuming it was a cold. I say all this just to kick things off and we're going to actually hear from a listener who's just over it. But I just also wanted to remind folks that lice is still a thing.
Doree: Lice.
Kate: Lice. And if you have children, it's more of a thing than if you don't. I think. I'm sure there are adults without children in their life who get lice because it's everywhere. It doesn't discriminate. It's not based on anything, but it's very prominent as a parent or a person who works with children or is around children. Lice is a part of your life. And you know what, just this last weekend, lice became a part of my life again. And so that was fun.
Doree: Oh boy.
Kate: Yeah, that was exciting. It's been a long time because of Covid. That was probably one of the few benefits of quarantining for so long or whatever, staying at home, whatever the correct terminology is. But my daughter, my 12 year old daughter whose birthday is tomorrow actually, she turns 12 tomorrow. She has lice. She has lice. And so I've spent approximately six hours combing her head over the last two days. And um.
Doree: Oh Man,
Kate: It's not for the faint of heart, you know? Haven't had lice in your life yet, have you?
Doree: Not as an adult.
Kate: Yeah. I don't know if your child ever has long hair as a kid. You did, right?
Doree: Yeah.
Kate: Were you the kid whose parent just cut all their hair off?
Doree: No, but I was the kid, and my mom was also very into popping pimples.
Kate: I know, weve talked about this.
Doree: And I think actually really enjoyed looking for knits in hair and would put them on a piece of scotch tape.
Kate: Oh Boy.
Doree: Yeah, I think it was very satisfying
Kate: so she like just stick it on your head. Really went for it.
Doree: Yeah, I think it was very, think it was very satisfying for her to find the eggs. I don't, and I don't know if the hair fairy thing is a new thing, the places or the people that will come to your house and de-lousify your child's hair. But I remember this being taken care of by my mom.
Kate: Yeah, I never
Doree: The little lice comb. Do you remember the lice comb?
Kate: Of course, Well, and now I just remember it because I have five of them frosting in my freezer right now to kill all the bugs. But yes, I mean, I feel like in the eighties when we were kids, if you got lice, your parents just cut your hair off. I have so many friends, they just had long hair. And then the next day they came to school with very short hair and it was like why? The answer was just like I had lice.
Doree: Wow.
Kate: Very fragmatic.
Doree: That did not happen to me. That did not happen to me.
Kate: Didn't have that either, but I just remember that as a case.
Doree: I remember my brother having lyce and my brother did not have long hair. So I don't feel like the length of the hair is necessarily correlative. As much as parents might want to think it is.
Kate: Well, what happens is because it's passed from head to head, a lot of times with longer hair, especially hair that's down it's easier to make contact. So.
Doree: That's fair,
Kate: That's the reasoning because I have children with shoulder, past shoulder length hair. Anyway listen, highly recommend you watch some videos on YouTube about combing with a knit free terminator lice comb. I will link to it because that's the comb of choice and you're going to want some really good, a good spray bottle, some leaving conditioner some white cloths, and a bowl of water. Those are the tools you need to comb out ahead and maybe some rubber bands and some hair clips.
Doree: What about the scotch tape, Kate? You I forgot the scotch tape.
Kate: You know what Doree, my aunt does with ticks is she puts them on scotch tape and I kind of can see how this would be satisfying. Cause when I was finding the big bugs in my daughter's hair, I put them in the water, but now I'm like, oh, I wish I could have looked at them on the tape.
Doree: Yeah, exactly.
Kate: I also wore a headlamp to really have good light
Doree: Oh my gosh, that's amazing.
Kate: And then my reading glasses, because my eyes are are getting so bad that I needed reading glasses to examine my lice or the things I was finding.
Doree: Now how do you make sure that you do not get lice?
Kate: Oh, well, I then combed out my other child's head and then I combed out my own head, which is not as effective as somebody else doing it for you. So I will redo it again. I'll redo my own head at the end of the week and my other kids' head at the end of the week and I'm kind of just coming out the main kids' head every day. And then if for some reason we're not having success getting rid of it or I get it, I might go to one of the lice hair salons, but I'm trying to avoid forking over the dough. I've been, my kids have had lice. There have been years where we've had it five times. We are a family who has had lice multiple times a year, so I've been to the salons.
Doree: What do you do? What do do for school when they have lice?
Kate: I comb their heads out or I take them to the lice. A lice person who's combed their heads out and then you tightly braid or bun not, we're not talking ponytail, we're not free flowing. Yeah, it's the free flowing hair. Right? That's the real issue.
Doree: Okay.
Kate: Yeah. And in preschool, those little kids are hugging each other a lot. So just fyi, Henry can be rubbing heads if whoever he pleases. Yeah. And people will do things like tea tree oil or there's all sorts of home remedies or things you can buy and do lice hate. They don't like mint. There's all this shit that people say and sure you can use, but ultimately, ultimately, no, I don't think there's any true prevention and
Doree: Oh yeah, now we're getting into it.
Kate: Lice prefer clean hair, not dirty hair. That's a lice, like dirty hair is a myth. Anyway, yeah, that's just what's going on with me just watching Wednesday on Netflix, which is excellent. And combing heads.
Doree: I also enjoy Wednesday on Netflix. I'm not that far in, but I am enjoying it.
Kate: It's really good.
Doree: Yes, I'm really liking it. I'm really liking it. Kate, do you want to listen to a quick voicemail before we take a break?
Kate: Yeah, let's play this person's rage. Let's share their rage with everybody.
Voicemail: Good morning, Kat and Dor. This is Janice from Pleasant Hill, Bay Area, California. I am just sending this voice memo to any parent out there that has had sick kids during the season, getting over a bug myself and my kids have had the flu and I'm just so over it. I'm so over having sick children and I'm just exhausted. Just as many other parents are at this time. It feels impossible. Everyone's running outta sick time and some people don't have sick time. So I'm just thinking about that right now. And I'm eating a breakfast burrito in my car and drinking a coffee for this little bit of time that I have to myself away for my children and I'm just sending good vibes. Good thoughts to everyone that's going through the sick season this year with flu RSV covid, all of it. It's horrible. And solidarity. Thank you. Love you so much. Bye.
Doree: Okay. Did you see that article in the Cut?
Kate: Yes. I think I shared it on my Instagram about being a parent right now and how just everything.
Doree: Yes, all the sicknesses,
Kate: the sicknesses and also just the ways in which culturally speaking specifically as Americans, our country doesn't do anything to support people who are sick. I mean we're, there's been this whole issue with this railroad strike and the worker's not getting any paid sick leave. I mean just. Culturally, Americans don't give not Americans as individuals. Our country doesn't give a shit about working parents, about working people about health. I mean, anyway, here comes the soapbox climate, climb, climb, climb. But that's why it's like I, oh God, I'm getting overwhelmed. I feel like all my cylinders are firing with all my rage points. But yes, Doree, I did see that article. It did hit a lot of just grief and anger moments that I have about what it means to be a human in this country and to be a human with who has healthcare and works a flexible job. You know what I mean? This call totally wipe it out. A lot of people don't get sick days off, paid sick days off. It's such bullshit.
Doree: Totally. Yeah, I know.
Kate: Oh goodness. I'm overwhelmed. Hey, before we take a break, can we just share this text right quick because I feel like this is an easy answer.
Doree: Yeah.
Kate: Okay. Someone wrote to us, Hi Kat and Dor. Are we supposed to keep the plastic inner lids or do we throw those away when we start using the product? A few of my tub products have this secondary lid and I want to toss it, but maybe it has a purpose. Okay. I have the same question. I know this lid of which you speak.
Doree: I do too. I throw mine away.
Kate: I do too. But not I scrape all the product off of it. Yes. Oftentimes I will take the lid and wipe it on my face to get the product off. Have you done that? That's not just me.
Doree: I have scraped it into the container. I have in the past I have kept it on the container and then I was like, this doesn't make any sense.
Kate: Take it off. Yeah, just take it off. Yeah. I mean, someone who makes that packaging could let us tell us we're wrong, but I think you just take it off.
Doree: Yeah. All right. Well, I'm glad we solved that.
Kate: Me too. Felt good. Yeah.
Doree: Okay. All right. We are going to take a short break and we'll be right back.
Alright. We have returned with a text Hello from Boston over Thanksgiving weekend with my family. I was looking through a free book box and turn to my sister-in-law and to say, you love this author. She responded that she had never heard of the author and didn't know anything about her. I was confused how I had mixed this up. A few minutes later I realized I had confused my IRL friends with my podcast friends. That was a first. Updates for both of you. Don't wear underwear with my pajamas and use two pairs a week on average.
Kate: Okay. That's a really reasonable pajama rotation.
Doree: I agree.
Kate: That seems about right. Unless you sweat through a pair, the podcast friend thinking that they're like, you confuse that with somebody IRL, I do that a lot. People I am friends with on Instagram, like Mutual Follows, I follow them, they follow me, but we don't know each other. But we've like dm'd, I definitely refer to them as friends
Doree: I, and that's fair, Kate. That is fair.
Kate: Like that's not, thats okay, Right. Sometimes it's just easier also to just be like, oh yeah, that's a friend. My daughter was like, what book are you looking at? And I was, I said, oh, it's my friend's book that's coming out. It's Sarah Peterson's book. I don't know. Sarah Peterson. not personally.
Doree: I mean, You kind of do.
Kate: I mean, I hope she's possibly listening to this. Her book, I've started reading called Momfluanced, it's very good, but you know what I mean, right. Where I'm like, this is my friend.
Doree: I do.
Kate: Though I never seen her in the flesh. So this is normal. This is just life in 2022 slash 23.
Doree: Yeah.
Kate: Doree, an email for you. Hi gals. Based on Doree's recommendation, I've enjoyed many of Louise Penney's Inspector Gamache book series. Thinking of her running around her apartment for exercise during the Pandemic is an image I often go back to since she shared it on the podcast. Anyways, hoping Doree saw that Amazon Prime has adapted the books to a TV series. I've watched the first one. Would Love your thoughts. I like their casting of Gamache. However, I always pictured him as Matthew as Matia from Call My Agent, and I think I'll stick with that. It's a cozy mystery show for the cozy winter nights up here in Canada. The guy that she's referencing from Call Your Agent, he would be a perfect Gamache.
Doree: So the Gamache in the actual series is Alfred Molina, which I actually think is a perfect Gamache. I'm sorry.
Kate: Okay. Nope, Doree. That's okay. You support it. Have you been watching the show?
Doree: No. And I'm also just a little confused because Does she mean Mathias?
Kate: Yes, I think it's Mathias that.
Doree: Okay. Not Matthew.
Kate: Wait, Mathias is the older one who has the secretary who's in love with her. Right.
Doree: Nope, Well, yes.
Kate: The assistant, I should say, not a secretary.
Doree: Yeah. Who is the dad of
Kate: Yes, the hot guy
Doree: And the woman.
Kate: Oh yes, that's right. It's been a while. Love that show.
Doree: Okay. That's funny. I never pictured him looking like this Mattias from Call My Agent. I definitely pictured him looking more like Alfred Molina.
Kate: Okay. So you approve the casting.
Doree: I think that's actually good casting. Yes, I do approve the casting. I'll be honest, I had not heard about this, which I feel is a failure on the part of Amazon Prime Marketing.
Kate: Yeah. If this didn't reach Doree Shafrir, what are you all doing?
Doree: It didn't reach me at all. I've seen nothing about it. I've seen no conversations about it. I just Googled it. There have been, there was a very short thing in the Times in a column about what to watch this weekend, and it was a few sentences, but I haven't seen any press for it. I haven't seen Alfred Molina doing any press for it. I haven't seen Louise Penny doing any press for. I've seen nothing on this. So I don't know if Amazon has just fired their whole PR department or in marketing or what is happening, because I feel this is a failure on their part to let me know about this show. I didn't even get any targeted Instagram ads
Kate: I'm shocked.
Doree: And like, here's the thing. Here's the thing, Kate, Amazon knows that I have bought these books because I read them on my Kindle. So
Kate: Wow. You snooze, you lose Jeff Bezos.
Doree: Why wouldn't they do some cross referencing and advertise that to me? It's really weird. Makes me think they're bad at their jobs. That's it. That's all I'll say.
Kate: Will you tune in? Will you watch it?
Doree: Oh, I definitely will. I'm excited to tune in. I like Alfred Molina a lot and I'm really excited to see what they do, what they did with the show.
Kate: I can't wait to get your report. I wanna know what you think a few people wrote to us about this to make sure you are watching.
Doree: She had her new book came out last week and I'm about halfway through it.
Kate: Ooh. Are you going to withhold your thoughts until you finish?
Doree: Yeah, I mean generally I'm enjoying it.
Kate: Okay.
Doree: And you know what I appreciate? I think it was the previous book, although she writes so many that I've kind of lost track. I think it was the previous book, maybe it was two books ago. She kind of tied it into the pandemic and that fell flat for me. So I was glad that now, It's A) historical and there's no real mention even passing reference to the pandemic because the thing that happened with the book, it must have been last year, is she had clearly written it thinking that the pandemic would be over.
Kate: Yes.
Doree: And it was set in the present day, but when it came out, we were in the middle of another, I think we were, Omicron had just hit or something. And so it just felt very off. And that's not the only piece of pop culture I've seen do that. I Sex in the City also did that. The new Sex in the City, they made some references to masks being off and it came out
Kate: I remember that
Doree: It came out at the height of Omicron or something,
Kate: Yes, I remember that.
Doree: I Dunno, I feel like for all creators, it's like, and all fiction creators, it's like address the pandemic at your own peril.
Kate: Yes. So I've thought this is something I've discussed with writer friends. It's very weird. But then also
Doree: Yeah, it's very tricky.
Kate: But then all the books we're creating existed an alternate world in which this horrible thing hasn't,
Doree: Right, totally, It's never happened,
Kate: It isn't happening. It's very weird.
Doree: It's so weird. It's so weird. Anyway, it's very weird. That was just a long way of saying that her new book, that there is No Pandemic, the Pandemic has not existed. And that's not the only reason I'm enjoying it, but I'm enjoying it. Sorry, that was way too long. Okay,
Kate: Read this email to us, will you?
Doree: Okay. Hi ladies. Phillipa here from Great Britain, longtime listener, first time emailer. Just had to pause the pod today during your discussion with Amanda Divet about the detective novel writer Agatha Christie. Like Amanda, I've recently got into reading her novels and I find them very relaxing whilst intriguing. Let's remember this lady was writing during the early to middle part of the 19 hundreds and was prolific a real pioneer for women authors. Furthermore, can I add, there are several books recently published that are absolutely fascinating and highlight her brilliance as an author, as well as giving insight to Agatha's Life. I think your listeners should know about them. And for your British listeners, there's currently a three part program available on BBCI, player by Lucy Warsley, an Oxford graduate who has also written her biography. Thank you, Kat and Dor. Keep up the good work, love the program. Sending best wishes over at the pond to you guys. TTFN. Philipa. PS I'm an intensive care nurse in London and we have an Agatha Christie bookshelf at work, helps calm us down. And if you've never read any Agatha Christie before, you should start with Peril at End House. And don't forget the intriguing mystery of why Agatha walked out of her marriage age 36 years, leaving her young daughter behind, staged a car crash, leaving her fur coat and driving license in the car and went missing for 11 days.
Kate: What? did not know. Did you know that?
Doree: I did know this. There was a book that came out, actually, there have been a few books about this about her going missing and one came out. Yeah, one came out, wait, when did there's, there's a fictionalized one that came out this year called the Christie Affair, and then last year a book came out called The Mystery of Mrs. Christie. Oh, sorry. It came out the very end of 2020 and no, still no one really knows what happened.
Kate: Wow. I know nothing. I remember you reading the Christie Affair. I remember when you picked that up, but I know nothing.
Doree: I have not read it. I have not read it.
Kate: You didnt?
Doree: No.
Kate: Did you talk about it on this podcast? It's so familiar to me.
Doree: Possibly.
Kate: Okay. Scratch that. Sorry. I have such a weird memory of us discussing it. Okay.
Doree: That's funny. Maybe, it was your other podcast friend.
Kate: Oh, I forgot. I do a whole other podcast called Always Aging. Oh Well thank you. Thank you. Phillipa in Great Britain.
Doree: Yeah. You're making me wanna go back and read these books, which I've never picked up, but I've always been kind of fascinated by this. I mean, she sounds like a fascinating person generally.
Kate: Maybe we should get her on the pod
Doree: Agatha.
Kate: Yeah. Do you think we could figure We could work some connections to try to get her on?
Doree: Yeah, maybe. Yeah, maybe I'll invite my nevermind. Forget it. Okay, Kate, let's take another short break and we'll be right back. All right, Kate, we are back and we're going to play a voicemail. Oh, Kate, did you wanna say something about this voicemail?
Kate: No, no. I was just going to chime in and say with a voicemail, but you beat me to it. You did a good job there.
Doree: Well thank you so much. Alright, here we go.
Voicemail: Hey guys, this is longtime listener, Emily. Called in a few times before, but something that I think we haven't talked a lot about is just regular body soap. What are you guys using? The only thing that I could find on the shopmy page was the KORRES Basil Lemon Body soap. And I'm open to try that, but usually I use the soap and glory like pink grapefruit smelling stuff, which is great, but maybe wanna try something different for winter. So what are we using for just regular body soap? Lemme know. Thanks a bunch. Bye.
Kate: I can tell you what I use which is Native's Cucumber and Mint Body Wash, which they sent to me and I love it because I love this. Those are two of my favorite smells. So that is what I have been using. We also, my husband's a bar soap person, so we will mostly just grab a giant thing of Dove at Costco, but currently it appears he's using an Irish Spring. There's a green bar in the shower, so I assume that's what that is. And then I like Necessaire's body wash if I'm feeling fancy, but I'm going with that Cucumber and mint baby. How about you Doree?
Doree: Kate, I also used Native's Cucumber and Mint.
Kate: Oh my goodness. Look at us.
Doree: I know, they sent it to us and then I bought some because I finished it and I liked it a lot. I have environmental guilt about using Body wash instead of bar soap, but
Kate: Because the plastic bottles,
Doree: Yes, but I have not been able to successfully switch over fully to Bar soap. I was using it for a while. I was using Dr. Bronner's bar soap, which I liked a lot. And then I think Native sent us some stuff and I was like, all this stuff is really nice.
Kate: Yep, and you got sucked in.
Doree: I got sucked in. Yeah. So that's my story. I have to live my truth. My husband does use bar soaps kind of fancy bar soap from Baxter
Kate: Aho. Hello Matt.
Wow. I like a fancy bar soap if people are using, I used to buy myself, I used to go to one of these fancy pharmacies in the West Village and buy myself, I think it was a Spanish bar soap It so it came in the most beautiful packaging. It was huge and it smelled amazing and I loved it and I wish I could remember the name of it. So if anyone has a kind of Treat Yourself bar soap, not that there's anything wrong with the old Dove, but you know, sometimes it's nice to have a fancy slab of something, Doree. Someone wrote and said to me, Kate, in some past episode, I remember you mentioning Loving Rooibos tea ever since you spent some time in South Africa. I recently got a hankering after reading some cozy mysteries set in Botswana. I'm curious if you or any listeners have any tips on a good brand to buy?
I love Rooibos Tea. I have been drinking it since I studied abroad in Cape Town in 1999. And when I was there, the tea that I drank was Fresh Pak. That was just like what you got at the grocery store. I believe it's South African Fresh Pak, p a k. And I think you can order it online. But now I just kind of get whatever is at the grocery store. I recently polished off a Republic of Tea, container of Rooibos and now I have something else. I'm trying to look at my counter. Maybe a Newie tea, A Good Earth I think. No, I have the Newie Royos going right now. But the Fresh Pak is, I would say go with whatever the local South Africans use personally. And anytime there's added stuff to it where it's like Rooibos and mint or Rooibos like ugh, no, just get straight up Rooibos Tea. It's so good. It's one of my favorite herbal tea to drink. I love it. So that's my answer. Fresh pak with a biscuit. You get some biscuits, just dip your biscuits into your tea. Oh hmm.
Doree: Dip your biscuits.
Kate: I feel like that has a double entendre that we aren't, that you are alluding to.
Doree: I would agree actually, Kate.
Kate: Well on that sexy note. Doree it's been great talking to you everybody. We'll talk to you later.
Doree: All right, bye everyone.