Mini-Ep 331: Pickleball and Milk Baths
Kate and Doree plan the opening of their boutique hotel in Palm Springs before they hear from listeners about the etiquette of eating in the tub, grapeseed oil around the eyes, and the British laundry detergent that removes the stink of all stinks.
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Kate: Hello and welcome to Forever 35, a podcast about the things we do to take care of ourselves. I'm Kate Spencer.
Doree: And I am Doree Shafrir
Kate: And we are not experts.
Doree: We are not, but we are two friends who like to talk a lot about serums.
Kate: And this is a mini episode where we hear from you, we share your comments and your thoughts, and we answer your questions to the best of our ability
Doree: Indeed. But as stated, we are podcast hosts. We're not experts and we always encourage you to seek support first and foremost from a medical and or mental health professional as needed.
Kate: If you wanna reach us, hit us up on the beams. That's our voicemail number. Doy loves, when I call it the mems, it's (781) 591-0390. You can also send us a text message there where you can email us on the James, that would be Gmail forever 35 podcast gmail.com.
Doree: You can visit our website forever 35 podcast.com. There's links. What Kate? What I just
Kate: <laugh>. I just was, I'm just laughing with my satisfied like little sister Annoyingness that I like to drop sometimes.
Doree: Oh, that I ignore as like Yeah, a big sister. Yeah,
Kate: You big sister. And I've never had a big sister and so I think I kind of consider you my big sister. That's
Doree: All. Wow, okay. I mean, I respect that. I'm sorry to bring that big sister that over it. Big sister energy to this combo. I
Kate: Love it. I like live for it. That's why I continue to drop little bugging things in there like a classic sister. Okay. I'm sorry. Country. It's on you. I apologize.
Doree: What's gonna get a rise out of her? Yes.
Kate: I think I'm like imitating my children, honestly. Good Lord.
Doree: Oh my God. Ugh. Well we are about the same distance apart as you are daughters age-wise.
Kate: My God, this is true. Oh no,
Doree: I'm just saying
Kate: <laugh>. Okay, I'll get it wrong.
Doree: Anyway, as I was saying we have a website forever 35 podcast.com. Check us out over there. We do have a Twitter account technically at Forever 35 Pod. It's rather dormant. I go on there every three months,
Kate: <laugh>
Doree: And scroll through our notifications and I'm like, Hmm, I'll retweet this tweet from three weeks ago.
Kate: I don't go on there because I'm don't have a relationship with Twitter anymore, but thank you for doing that.
Doree: You're very, it's literally the bare minimum. And then I'm on Instagram. We're on Instagram at Forever 35 podcast. I mean, I am on Instagram at Doree and Kate is on Instagram at Kate Spencer. You are welcome to follow both of us on there as well. But our joint account is Forever 35 podcast. And of course there is the Forever 35 Facebook group at facebook.com/group/forever 35 podcast with a newsletter, 5 35 podcast.com/newsletter. We also have a shop my shelf at shop my.us/forever 35. And I also just wanna plug our balance bound Forever 35 collab. I put that Doree'S Hotel Key Chain on my key ring today and I felt pretty cool.
Kate: I had mine on two. I like mine nice and big and solid so I can always find it in my bag. Yes.
Doree: I also had a really funny thought, which is if I do happen to lose my keys, someone is going to call the Forever 35 Voice
Kate: <laugh>. Oh my God, I hadn't even thought about that.
Doree: <laugh>
Kate: Could happen to just be anybody who has the key chain.
Doree: Totally. So we will be on alert for anyone with lost keys.
Kate: Yeah. Oh, I'm kind of excited about this. I wanna reunite people with their key keys.
Doree: If you wanna get that Doree's Hotel key chain, which comes with a cute little notepad, do's Hotel notepad, and a little book of matches, also embossed with Doree's Hotel. You can buy those at balance bound.co/shop/barber 35. There's also a bunch of other super cute stuff. Someone did message us and ask if we were gonna make a Doree's hotel robe. And I suddenly had this fantasy of all this hotel, all these hotel products like branded dos hotel products like little soaps, <laugh>.
Kate: Okay, I'm at tiny little shampoos.
Doree: Yeah, exactly. But a nice plush robe and maybe slippers.
Kate: I love the idea of full hotel amenities for a hotel that doesn't exist. Oh, where's this? Where are these slippers from? Doree's Hotel. Where's that? Oh, in our heads
Doree: In my mind. <laugh> in my mind.
Kate: <laugh>. Oh my goodness. I mean,
Doree: Kate, if we took this joke to its logically absurd conclusion, this would end with us opening an actual hotel,
Kate: I would want it to be in Palm Springs. I don't hope that's okay with you. Okay,
Doree: Yeah, no, that's
Kate: Totally cool. My relaxing spot. I love going to Palm Springs. I think we could really bring forever 35 energy out there. I just think it would match with the vibe of Palm Springs. A boutique hotel, almost a motel. Not like a large resort.
Doree: No, no, no. Definitely not a large resort. But it also has a great PR backstory. This was a joke and now it's a real thing. <laugh>.
Kate: I
Doree: Mean, you would have to be the general manager. So are you prepared for that?
Kate: I am. I'm a great with customer service. I love talking to people. I would do great at the front desk. I'm very bad with administrative skills, so someone else would have to do the bookkeeping. Okay. And are you just luxuriating around the grounds as the namesake of the hotel?
Doree: I mean, yeah, <laugh>,
Kate: Just clarifying what your job is. <laugh>
Doree: The mascot. It's a very demanding job. Cause I have to be on all the time.
Kate: Yeah, of course. It's how
Doree: There's
Kate: Peacocks at, what is it? The Parker Hotel in Palm Springs. You're like our
Doree: Peacock. Yes, I would. I'm like the peacock. Exactly. <laugh>. Well look, if you work for a hotel operator and you wanna see this become a reality, let us know.
Kate: Yeah. Some podcast go on tour. They do shows we're gonna open a hotel. Alright, are Glen and Abby opening hotels
Doree: <laugh>?
Kate: I mean, if they were, I would immediately go to it. I love Glen and Abby, but let's be like, let's see what other podcast. My favorite murder. Did they have a hotel? I don't think so. And I quite honestly wouldn't wanna go to my favorite murder hotel. That sounds terrible.
Doree: Well, I was just gonna say exactly
Kate: <laugh>, you wanna come to Doree's Hotel where Doree's walking around in a long robe on the grounds.
Doree: You don't wanna come to the murder hotel.
Kate: No. Well, I will say Doree, if we did ever open a hotel, I would make there be pickle ball courts because I am now hyper fixated on pickle ball a little
Doree: Bit. Okay, let's hear about this because you alluded to it briefly on a previous episode, but we did not really get into it. So I wanna hear everything.
Kate: Okay. So last summer I lived with my dad for about a month and a half in New Hampshire. And my dad <laugh>, like I hadn't spent that much time with him, especially because of the pandemic. And he plays pickle ball like four times a week. It is appointment wow
Doree: Level.
Kate: He doesn't like to miss his pickle ball. He actually, he volunteers and teaches kids pickle ball. He really, my dad and I are very similar in that we're both very social people and we're outgoing and a bit extroverted in some ways. And both enjoy that kind of doing things with other folks. And I was kind of like, it became kind of like a joke because we love to tease my dad, but then I kind of was like, this actually seems fun, but I needed to learn. So I arranged for pickleball lessons. I put a call out to some friends and three other people are joining me and we're doing group pickleball lessons. And we had our first lesson on this earlier this week and it was a blast. It was so much fun. I forget how much I enjoy playing physical games, that I am competitive, that I do love to win. It scratched all these things about myself that I feel like I've never fully indulged. And
Doree: It's
Kate: Just so much fun. And also for me, Doree, I think I was inspired a lot by listening to you talk about tennis and you have poker nights and you have a maj on group. You have things that you love doing, but you're doing them with other people. And I have felt like, So what's the isolated, These last two and a half years have just been lonely making and I wanted to be with people in a way that was fun. But we were doing something, It's nice to sit outside and have drinks, but I wanted to learn something because pickle ball seems like the kind of thing totally you can then go and do with friends. It's not like tennis intimidates me a bit. It's a bit more formal. I like that pickle ball is a little si, although it's not, People take it very seriously and it's also hard. I was working a sweat
Doree: <affirmative> <affirmative>
Kate: <affirmative>. I haven't acquired my own paddle yet. My coach has paddles for us. I do have court shoes and of I course am can't wait to buy outfits, cannot wait. <affirmative> fully want to be in. This is another thing that happens when you get into a hobby and you're like, How can I blow all my money that I should be putting into savings on this hobby? So I've gotta kind of slow my role, but it was really fun. I think that I will enjoy it. We have more lessons obviously, but I kind of think I will become a person who plays pickle ball and if anyone out there in Los Angeles wants to get a game going, let me know. I would love to join you. And I'm a little intimidated at having to show up at these public courts and just be like, Can I play? But maybe that'll be a good practice for me.
Doree: I love this. I love this.
Kate: Yeah, I'm a pickle a pickle person. Now I do think the reason it's taken off is because it probably is such a great physical and community experience for people. Probably scratches both of those. Its mm-hmm. <affirmative> maybe similarly to how tennis does for you. I don't know, do you hang with the people that you play tennis with?
Doree: Some of them, because some of them are already friends. There is a group of women who I met whilst in a class last year and we have gotten together to play. We haven't gotten together recently because one of the women was sick. It scheduling has been tough. But yeah, we've become friendly. Tennis I think is a little harder to just, I think pickleball culture is such that, from what I have gleaned, you were saying you can just show up on a pickleball court and just join a game.
But to my knowledge, that doesn't really happen in tennis. So it, and that is kind of a drawback in the sense of you have to have people to hit with. And I think it is a little bit more physically demanding than pickle ball. And I think there is an element of gate keeping this to tennis because it is so physically demanding and people, I think people are kind of prickly about playing with people who are at their level, whereas that doesn't seem to be as much of an issue in pickle ball maybe because there are so many beginners. But I would never wanna hit with someone who was much better than me in intense. No,
Kate: I wouldn't. I mean I wouldn't either in any game, but that's just my own, maybe my own anxiety. But I
Doree: Get that. It's interesting. So I don't know. It's interesting. But I'm really excited for you. I think this is a great hobby and yeah, I mean, I was lamenting the lack of tennis garb that I really wanna wear part of because know it's so sunny here. I'm not about to get out there in a sleeveless crop top. That's just too much sun exposure for me. So I'm trying to figure out some good alternatives. I thought I found a tennis dress, but I got it. It came yesterday. I don't love it. So I think I'm gonna send it back. So I dunno. I dunno. Kate.
Kate: Well maybe somebody out there will hit us up.
Doree: Maybe. Well, Kate, we should take a break and hear from some listeners.
Kate: So Doree, do you remember the listener who reached out about eating in the bathtub?
Doree: Yes, I do. <affirmative>.
Kate: Well, we had some people, some brave souls who also eat in water, share their tails. Basically, from what I can tell, these people are very confident and rebellious as bathers. They are not worried about getting food in the tub. So here's what one person texted us a regarding food in the tub. One of my good friends locks herself in the bathroom and has a root beer float while in the bath when she needs break from her toddler. Go wild.
Doree: Wow. <laugh>
Kate: The specificity Wow. Of a root beer float is what I'm kind of hung up on because that sounds really good. But why that
Doree: Yeah, <laugh> like, well, and also what a fun slash funny thing to be making it home. Yeah, I love that. I don't,
Kate: Yeah, you have to have all the Accra malls for a rupa, which I guess is just root beer and vanilla ice cream. What else goes into a root beer float? I think it's just those,
Doree: It's just root beer and ice cream.
Kate: Yep. That's it. You, It looks like, according to a couple recipes I've just pulled up, you could throw some whipp cream or aino cherry in there, which also sounds good. Yeah. This is not like my suite of choice, but one of my kids loves root beer floats. She gets it like anytime she
Doree: Can that in. My mom loves a root beer. My mom loves a root beer float.
Kate: Really?
Doree: So
Kate: Yep. Ask her if she's ever had one in the bath. Listen to this other text we got. Just as I eat in bed, I am also an expert level bath eater. I can eat anything in the tub. I'm talking pad Thai chicken, Caesar wrap, you name it.
Doree: Chicken again, the specificity <laugh>. I know the chicken. Not
Kate: Just a chicken Caesar salad. Or not just a wrap, but a chicken Caesar wrap. Now I'm chicken struggling with that. I'm struggling. I think specifically with the wrap, because I'm imagining what happens when you are eating a wrap and the bottom part opens up and then the stuff kind of starts crumbling out in a wrap. Unravels itself,
Doree: <affirmative>,
Kate: And then that's just floating. There's just a little bit of romaine just floating by. I don't know. I don't know why this bothers me and I doesn't bother me to sit on my bed in my dirty clothes or wear shoes in the house. But for some reason food in the tub is where I am. I'm struggling. That's
Doree: Where you draw the line
Kate: <laugh>. This is too much for me. Can I just circle back to the hotel that we're gonna make? What if our menu was
Doree: Just
Kate: Yes, please group your float pad. Thai chicken Caesar. Oh, we had a specific tub only menu for room service.
Doree: Yes. I love the tub only menu. Okay.
Kate: Just wanted to throw that out there. Cause I could survive
Doree: Tub
Kate: Only
Doree: Chicken Caesar wrap. I'm down for a tub menu and I'm also, that means I think we would have tub trays that were specially designed to make it easy to eat.
Kate: A hundred percent. I have a tub tray for holding a book and a glass of wine, but I need one. You need one for a whole plate.
Doree: Exactly. Exactly. That's
Kate: What I'm saying. Noted. I'm gonna add that to the list of the needs for the hotel.
Doree: Okay. All right. Thank you. Thank you. General manager, Kate h Spencer.
Kate: No problem. See, I told you I was gonna take charge of this hotel. Yep, yep, yep. So we got a couple voicemails too. Let's play this first one.
Voicemail: Hello. I've never eaten ice cream in the, but I have eaten chocolate in the tub. Those that you can buy at Costco or the grocery store, I think ice cream would be a bit hard to two-handed food. And then with regard to accidentally dropping some ice cream in the tub, I feel like it'd be similar to a milk bath that you give a baby where you put somes in the tub and the milk helps blue baby skin. So I think be similar to that. Not you should precious ice cream by dropping in the, But if you were to do,
Kate: Okay. Wow, <laugh>, I have to just say, if you are a milk bath is a thing. People bathe in milk for various beneficial reasons to the skin. I have had a treatment at a Korean spa with milk, so that not, that sounds lovely, but I think if you're gonna bathe in milk commit, don't just drop a little chunk of ice cream in them. They'll be like, I guess this is a milk bath now I think you need to commit to the milk bath is what I'm saying. I mean, it's an interesting idea. Especially what with our water shortage and all <laugh>. That's true.
Go to the bath with a big bowl of ice cream. Eat what you can. Let the rest melt and take a milk bath with it. <affirmative>. That's just gonna get you sticky. I dunno. I know that that does not appeal to me. I mean, didn't Cleo pad, didn't she take milk baths? Am I making this up, Cleo? I don't know, but that's That's so funny. That's the second time Cleopatra has come up for me today. Really? Yes. She's really right now her energy. Yeah, her energy is really taking off. It's a real Cleopatra vibe here. Yeah. Apparently she took milk baths. Okay, I just wanna note, this is something else we could offer at the hotel. Ok, moving on. We've got one more voicemail. All right. We have one more voicemail and let's just note that this is from a previous caller, Ernest, our child listener in Belgium.
Voicemail: Hello. I'm the Belgium kid. I'm calling back. I'm glad you're back. I'm calling to respond at food in the tub. It's really great. I eat a snicker like an iced snic in the bat, and it was great because it's something cold and something a little bit hard. It's definitely not too hard. The previous time I called you really helped me out, by the way. Bye.
Doree: I love Ernest
Kate: <laugh>. I do too.
Doree: Is that a weird thing to say as a grown woman, <laugh>
Kate: <laugh>? No, I think it's in a affectionate, purely platonic kind way. Okay. No. Okay. I mean, also I would love to go to Belgium.
Doree: Oh, same. Yeah.
Kate: I also love that he sets himself, or excuse me. I also love that Ernest sets himself up as the Belgian kid. I love that. And also, there's only one that we know of and who calls into our podcast. If there are other Belgian children listening, please let us know. All right. Well, okay, let's take a break.
Doree: Okay, let's do that, Kate.
All right. We are back with an email. Hi Cat Andor. Just listening to your most recent mini episode and had to pause the pod as I have a recommendation for Kate's question about getting rid of B smells from clothes. I was stumped by this issue for years until I used an antibacterial laundry cleanser. You put it in with your normal laundry cleaning products in a wash. And as Bo is bacteria, it really seems to get rid of built up B smells. I live in the uk, so the ones you can get here are from Detol and supermarket branded ones. So I dunno what is available in the us, but I definitely recommend trying one if you can.
Kate: It looks like, So I've never even heard of this, but it looks
Doree: Like no, me neither. The
Kate: US brands, there is a Lysol laundry sanitizer, which I've never heard of. Looks like you can also order Interesting detol from online shops. Yeah, Laundry. Lysol, Laundry sanitizer. Never heard of such a thing.
Doree: Me neither.
Kate: Now why can't we get detol here in the states dates? Just another injustice being American. I know. Truly. No, no. Universal healthcare and no debt. All those are equi. Yeah. Interesting recommendation. I would definitely try this because my close stink, so noted. I mean, I feel weird about a Lysol laundry detergent for some reason, but I guess I could try it. I dunno. Let's see. All right. Well, we have one more VM from a listener with an oil recommendation.
Voicemail: Hello. I was getting a facial recently, and I told the facialist what products I use on my face, including almond oil every night as a moisturizer. And she suggested grape oil around my, and was hesitant because like Doree, I kind of give the eye to any sort of eye creams. But she explained that the skin around the eyes is so delicate and the pores are so small that it simply can't absorb some of the usual moisturizers you might put all over your face, including almond oil. So grapes, seeded oil is a little bit to absorb. So I thought that was interesting and thought I would share. Thank you.
Doree: Interesting. I'm intrigued also, that also reminds me that I wanted to share a prod.
Kate: Yeah, lay it on us.
Doree: So the company loved by Jade sent some of their glow face serum, and it has plum and prickly pair. It is called I Am Radiant. Kind of reminded me of the menu items at Cafe Gratitude, <affirmative> <affirmative>. So I have to admit, I was initially sort of like, Okay, <laugh> <laugh>.
Kate: Every morning you're like, I am radiant. I guess you have to to commit to it,
Doree: But I really like it. It's like an oily serum, excuse me. And it doesn't have almond oil in it, but it kind of smells faintly like almonds. And as I've said a million times on this podcast, I'm very particular about my smells with, especially with beauty products but I really love how this smells. It has plum oil, prickly pear oil, sea buck, thorn CO2 extract, and rose hip CO2 extract. I'm a fan. And
Kate: Tell me, when are you using this? What is your process?
Doree: I'm using it at night. It says that you can use a alone as a moisturizer layer under a cream or blend with serum or moisturizer. I have been using it under my moisturizer. I've been using, been layering it with moisturizer. Excuse me. But if you have oily skin, I think it depends. Kind of depends on your skin dryness or oiliness. I tend to feel like my skin is a little dry, so I've been layering it, but I really like it
Kate: Now. I have.
Doree: So that just reminded me.
Kate: Does it smell how you can get French almond hand soap and it's got that faint delicious almondy smell? Is it kind of like that?
Doree: No, because it doesn't, It's not soapy,
Kate: But this smells good. It's hard to
Doree: Describe. Okay. It does smell almondy to me so, Well, I just wanted to just want to give a shout out.
Kate: I love that. Thank you for that recommendation. I am now, of course, am eager to try it. I also, I do a prickly pair and I do think a plum, plum oils have kind of taken off in terms of a hot ingredient as of late.
Doree: Oh, have I
Kate: Have an oil, It's a Lolli beauty oil that I like that has plum, but then there's some other prier oil that is a plum oil. Yeah, Lolli beauty. Plum licker is an oil I've used that I really like. But then yes, there's a brand, I think called Prier Prune Year. I think they've just made, Yeah, Prier Plum oil. I believe I've seen celebs post about it online. So I'm kinda intrigued about this plum oil situation. I did just wanna circle back to this idea of a milk bath. Should I try this
Doree: Report? Oh,
Kate: Should I take a milk bath? I'm just Googling. This is a thing. Two cups of milk, essential oil, ep, some salts, sea salt, baking soda. I don't know. Should I do this?
Doree: Yeah. Okay.
Kate: Maybe I'll do it tonight. I think I have milk. I mean, why not just, I don't know. Try it out.
Doree: Try it out. Keep us posted.
Kate: I may take a milk. I'll let you know.
Doree: When I was thinking milk bath, I was thinking literally an entire bath of milk, and I was like, That is so much milk <laugh>.
Kate: You just have to go to Costco and go into the room that my children and I called the cold zone and get one of their big boxes of milk. Yeah. I don't think you need, it's milk and water. I don't think you take an entire bath and milk. Although possibly people do. I mean, look, there are lots of videos about Cleopatra's milk bath on YouTube. Okay. I've got my work cut out for me today. I know what I'll be distracting myself with milk
Doree: Baths. I'm excited for you. I'm excited for this journey,
Kate: <laugh>. It's fascinating. You never know where the conversations on this podcast are going to lead, because we started talking about eating in the tub and now we're thinking about bathing and milk. So thank you all for really nudging this journey forward with your questions and comments and shared experiences.
Doree: Amen.
Kate: All right, Doree. Well, I will see you at the hotel.
Doree: Oh, you sure will. Well, we both work there. So <laugh>, it's like we're gonna see each other to
Kate: Obviously the only two employees of this hotel.
Doree: <laugh>.
Kate: We might need to hire someone. All right. Maybe Sam can cook. I feel like Sami would be a good. Would Sami be a good cook? I feel like Sam Junio would be the party and games activity coordinator,
Doree: Or they would run the gym.
Kate: Yes, they could run the gym. Okay. They'd also take care of the dogs, of the guest dogs. I feel like that would be a good dog
Doree: For some. Totally. Yes. We would definitely be, be pet friendly.
Kate: All right. If anyone else wants to work at the hotel, hit us up and let us know.
Doree: Okay. All right. Bye.