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Mini-Ep 282: Shine Bright Like Diamond Art

Kate loves herself some salicylic acid spray recommended by a listener and Doree makes a wildly delicious family meal. Then, listeners wonder if there are any tips for post eye surgery self-care, make sure Kat + Dor know the true meaning of the eggplant emoji, and question whether they’re the maniac who expects too much from house guests. 

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Kate: Hello everyone. And welcome to forever 35, a podcast about the things that we do to take care of ourselves. I'm Kate Spencer,

Doree: And I am Doree Shafrir

Kate: And we are not experts.

Doree: No, but we are two friends who like to talk a lot about serums.

Kate: And this is a mini episode where we hear from you. We share your comments and your thoughts, and we answer your questions to the best of our ability.

Doree: And please do remember we are podcast hosts. We're not experts.

Kate: Nope.

Doree: Except in very narrow areas of expertise.

Kate: We, our niche experts, micro experts, if you will.

Doree: And we do always encourage you to seek support first and foremost, from a medical and or mental health professional as needed.

Kate: If you would like to reach us our voicemail and text message number is 7 8 1 5 1 0 3 90. And our email is forever 35 podcast@gmail.com.

Doree: And you may visit our website forever 35 podcast.com for links to everything we mentioned on the show. We're on Twitter at forever 35 pod. We're also on instagram@thirtyfivepodcast and the foreverthirty five facebook group as always lives at facebook.com/forever35 podcast. The password is serums and do sign up for our newsletter forever 35 podcast.com/newsletter is where that lives

Kate: And this where we Live's. This

Doree: Is where we live in your, this is where we live

Kate: Live on a pod, whatever app you use to your

Doree: Podcast is where we live. Kate you Doree, you have some really fun news for us.

Kate: Look Doree. As you have learned over the last four years, I firmly believe that, but care is self care. And recently a listener wrote in or called in. I can't remember how they communicated this, but they claimed that they had found the cure for their butt acne and they recommended two products. One was mega babes butt mask, and the other was a Polish choice, acne body acne spray. So when we got this message, I, I went online and I ordered the mega babe butt mask. And then I ordered cause I was ordering from Al beauty. I ordered Pacifica's. Let me make sure I get the name. Exactly correct. Uh, Pacifica's backne warrior, which is a acidic acid spray. And these products arrived very quickly and I began using them and I should say the mega babe butt masks name is Lato clarifying butt mask has a glycolic acid. Yep. And maybe a couple weeks have gone by not a lot of time. And I should say, I also have what we call butt acne. And I'm, I believe I have this from wearing not very breathable underwear most of the time, which I am changing. I have switched to a cotton underwear and also exercising. Okay. In said non breathable underwear. So you're getting sweat and build up in irritation. Right? Mm.

Kate: And I'm not gonna lie. It, it was a gnarly situation. Well, this concoction that this listener came up with, it has worked so well that I've, I've honest. I'm honestly like floored. I, because rarely do you see a product work so quickly and so effectively in such a short period of time. And I think it's mostly the spray. I've only done the butt mask maybe three times, but I really, I really like the butt mask. It has a bit of a, a grit to, it was like an exfoliant. You only wear it for two to three minutes. So really it's like, you put it on right before you take a shower, you know, then you turn the water on and then you, you can wash it off. It's very easy. It's not like a 20 minute mask.

Doree: Okay. But okay.

Kate: This Pacifica backne warrior, I spray it on, you know, two to three times a day. And I firmly believe that this has significantly reduced my butt acne situation.

Doree: Wow. Like

Kate: Significantly and I'm sure there are other products, you know, I app I really like this Pacifica product, but it's essentially J salicylic acid in the form of a spray. They call it, you know, back in chest. And I'm like, y'all, you know, we're using this for butts. So there,

Doree: You know, we're using this for butts.

Kate: I mean, you can't really, although I appreciate that mega bay full on has a mask for butts, but it's like, come on everybody, you know, we're using your acne products on our butts anyways. It's a, Salil 2% Salil acid. It also has a cide, cucumber and Allo in the spray. Um, and it's, I mean, it's great. It's like truly magic and the butt mask, his glycolic, uh, it's got some, also some moisturizing elements got squalling glycolic as mentioned the glycolic acid. So yes, it's, these are both kind of exfoliants and also turning over the, uh, the skin. But Doree, like my butt looks just like a regular butt.

Doree: Wow.

Kate: Yeah. These are it's changed my life.

Doree: Wow.

Kate: Yeah. I I'm, I'm not, and then I'm not over exaggerating for like the podcast or,

Doree: You know, I mean, this entertaining, that might be, this question might be too personal, but how bad was your buddy

Kate: Really bad. And, and also not just like, um, and I like, again, I just wanna say this is the kind of that like, I don't really wanna talk about permanently on a podcast, but here I am, you know, like some things I, here you are story, God it.

Doree: Sorry. I, there are some

Kate: Things, things I wanna hold close to my chest, you know what I mean? And like, it's embarrassing when like my kid's school principles, like I checked out your podcast and I know that the most recent thing I talked about was butt acne. Like that's embarrassing. So sometimes I feel like, why the am I talking about this on a permanent record for all of to, but that being said, it was, it was not great. Um, and I will, I will, you know, off the record, I will go into more detail with you. Um, privately,

Doree: I can't wait.

Kate: Um, because I, I honestly am embarrassed to talk about this. Um, well, it's like, it's embarrassing. Like,

Doree: I'm glad you're talking about it though. It's like, it's gonna help a lot of people.

Kate: I appreciate that, but it's, it is like we do this podcast where we talk a lot about ourselves and this is embarrassing,

Doree: You know? I mean, if you feel embarrassed by it, then it is embarrassing. I don't wanna, I don't wanna diminish that or minimize it,

Kate: Well and I also don't wanna make anybody else feel embarrassed or bad or anything like that, but I just felt, I feel self conscious, a little bit talking about this on the podcast.

Doree: I'll say I get it. I get it.

Kate: And I'm rarely self conscious on here, but, uh, it wasn't good. And, um, this has really helped. And, and so I just wanted to suggest if anybody is dealing with this, get yourself a Salic acid spray. I see that versed skincare makes one. I know that that that's about what is that $15? The one I got from Pacifica is $16. The Paul's choice was a bit more expensive at 26. I don't think you need an expensive one. I think they all probably have the same amount of Salicylic acid and that you need

Doree: Salicylic acid really is a great ingredient.

Kate: Now here's a Murad one that has 0.5% Salicylic acid. So that's a little bit more, um, yeah, I mean, this is, it's like magic and I can't, I can't overstate how quickly it worked.

Doree: Wow. That's great, Kate.

Kate: So thank you all for seeing me. Thank you so much to this listener who wrote in about these two products. I'm, I'm loving these products and like, they've really made a difference for me because honestly, Dori, I don't know if I would've felt comfortable wearing a bathing suit because the, but acne was popping out on the side a little bit, you know? Oh,

Doree: Wow. Yeah. So this is, this has been a big, big change for you. Big improvement,

Kate: You know, accepting ourselves is also very important, but I, but like this was painful and annoying and I'm glad that I, it,

Doree: Me too.

Kate: Thank you. I appreciate your support of me. I really do.

Doree: Um, well, Kate on a totally different note.

Kate: Well, we should want some way to segue into this. I wish we could find a pun or something. I don't think there is one, but yes, go. No

Doree: Wondering

Kate: Because you're,

Doree: It's, it's a totally different topic,

Kate: Like yes, but it looks very delicious.

Doree: Okay. So as has been discussed on this podcast, I have been meal planning and cooking dinner almost every night. Um, and you know, before I get into this, I do just wanna like acknowledge the privilege. I have to be able to do this because my job is very flexible. So at like four 30, I'm able to just kind of like wrap up my day and start cooking and, um, you know, not everyone is able to do that. So I just wanna

Kate: Appreciate you noting that.

Doree: Just kinda wanna note that I also want to have, I talked about how Henry has been helping me in the kitchen.

Kate: You've told me privately and it's adorable.

Doree: So, you know, I, I will talk more in depth at some point about what I have seen in a very short amount of time as the benefits of cooking dinner and eating dinner together, um, as a family. But one of the things that I did not foresee or anticipate was Henry getting excited about helping me make dinner

Kate: Story. I mean, could anything be cuter than this? It's like

Doree: Literally the cutest thing. Like, I, I just, I, you know, I know it's annoying when people are like, my kid is so cute, but like, it's so sweet and like comes from such a pure place. And he, you know, he says, what mama and Henry gonna do next? And like just wants to like be a part of it. And it's, It's like just adorable. What,

Kate: And, you know, mama and Henry are gonna do next. You

Doree: Henry helped mama make dinner.

Kate: Oh, Henry, oh my God. I love you.

Doree: So that's, that's like another thing that I've just been like,

Kate: I Love this.

Doree: Like, and then what mama cooking, what mama making for dinner. Like, he's just like so into it. So that's been also just really nice and, um, excuse me, I, I try to kind of figure out ways to involve him because I'm obviously not gonna have him like chop and onion, but I can have him, like, I can measure out rice and have him put in it in a pot. You know what I mean? So I can have them like whisk some stuff and mix things together, like that kind of stuff. And so that's been, that's been really fun. Um, but I did just wanna call out, highlight a dish that I made last night. That was Amazing.

Kate: Whoa.

Doree: It Was so good. It's from smitten kitchen. We will link to this in the show notes, but it is the mushroom Marsala pasta bake. Yeah. And it was, it, it was just, it was so delicious. It was just so good. So walk us through here. Uh, it involves mushrooms. Obviously.

Kate: Gathered that,

Doree: Um, pasta there's mozzarella cheese, there's Parn, there's an onion. There is a quarter cup of dry Marcella wine. She offers a substitute. If you don't feel comfortable cooking with alcohol, um, there's butter, there's flour, there's stock. I made it with vegetable stock. So I made it vegetarian, not vegan. Um, but it, it was vegetarian and, but you can make it with, uh, with chicken stock as well. If you, if you prefer that, um, it was a little labor intensive. She says prep time, 30 minutes tops cook time, 30 minutes tops. That was not more,

Kate: More than that.

Doree: It was more than that because I also realized that what she was referring to as prep time, I was, I thought was part of the cook time. Mm, Okay. Okay. So I had gotten to like, you know, 25 minutes of what I thought was the cook time and thought I just had five more minutes to go and then read the recipe a little bit more carefully. It was like, oh, this needs to bake for 2 25 minutes. Oh,

Kate: That's the worst feeling

Doree: That was annoying. And like, yes, that is on me for not like really reading this that carefully. But I also think, I don't know, whatever. Anyway, it was worth it. It is a, it is a bit labor intensive. Like you have to, um, when you have the mushroom and onion mixture, you add the Marsala and then you add the butter and then you add the flour and then you have to add the stock, a splash at a time and stirring,

Kate: this Is a very specific

Doree: Recipe, but I like, I could see how that really melded the flavors together.

Kate: Okay. All right. Intrigued.

Doree: So I thought it was great. It was a crowd pleaser, Henry. Some of it, yeah. I mean, Henry does not eat a ton at dinner. Right. Um, and I usually put other stuff on his plate that like, I know he will eat. Yeah.

Kate: Throw a string cheese on there or whatever you

Doree: Got. Yeah, exactly. Like, but he did eat a couple pieces of pasta and some mushrooms. And so I considered that a win.

Kate: Well, this is a great recommendation. I mean, I love a smitten kitchen recipe. Maybe Deb can come on the podcast someday.

Doree: Yes. Deb, if you're out there, definitely come on the podcast.

Kate: How do we get Deb on the pod? Because I mean, I, she, that the lasagna vegetarian lasagna recipe that I've made you is from smitten kitchen. I mean, she's got some real winners on that website. There's some really yummy tomato Farrow, Farrow, Farrow recipe that I really like,

Doree: She knows her way around a mushroom.

Kate: Oh, she can handle a mushroom. She can handle lots of fungi. I would imagine.

Doree: Um, so yeah. So I just wanted to, uh, mention that in case, are you, one was looking for a recipe.

Kate: Are you making, like when you made this, you and Matt ate it, I assume for dinner and then yep. Are you having some for lunch today? Like, are you kind of in that

Doree: I had some for lunch.

Kate: Perfect.

Doree: I had some for lunch.

Kate: Have you noticed Doree a reduction in the amount of money you are spending on food since you've started meal planning?

Doree: Um, yeah, definitely. I mean, and now

Kate: That's amazing.

Doree: We're not, we're not getting takeout as much. Yeah. We're getting, we're getting takeout a lot. Um, and at first I was like, wait, but we're spending so much more like, we're look at all, look at everything we're spending in groceries. But then I realize we were still buying groceries before it wasn't like we were buying groceries. Right. So, um, I have to do the math, but I, I did, I did calculate like a very big reduction in takeout and I haven't quite done the grocery part yet. Um, but yeah, we're definitely saving money. And also like, you know, I think the, the food is better for us just like health wise. Like, you know, you don't, I feel like a lot of takeout often has a lot of sodium in it and just, you know, I can, I know what's going into it and, and that's nice. And the act of cooking is nice and you know, again, Henry Henry helps me. So that's also nice.

Kate: What a great, um, thing for you to do with a kid? I think that's really special Doree. I love it.

Doree: Oh, thank you. Um, well Kate, should we take a little break and then hear from some listeners?

Kate: Yeah, let's Do that.

Doree: Let's do it. Okay. Be right back.

Kate: All right. Well, Doree first up is a text we received. This person wrote.

Text: hi, cat and door. I have a question about something I don't believe has ever been brought up on the pod. I am having a LASIK eye surgery done at the end of April. Do you or listeners have any self care tips or ideas for post LASIK?

Kate: Ooh, I, I have not had LASIK and I want it.

Doree: I have not had LASIK either.

Kate: I would love to hear how people care for themselves after a little eye of surgery.

Doree: Yeah. So listeners, if you have tips, please write in.

Kate: Yeah. We can devote some time to LASIK talk isn't terrible from what i've heard,

Doree: I don't know. I don't, I, I, I don't even wanna like speculate

Kate: You don't and that's fair. That's fair. I, I just wanna note that I am LASIK curious and I once said an optometrist be like, you shouldn't get it, but now I'm kind of like, but should I,

Doree: And um, I'm not in any way, um, questioning this listener's decision to get LASIK, but I just, for the general listenership, I do just wanna note that LASIK does come with risks and um, everyone should research the LASIK risks before they choose to get it.

Kate: And talk to their medical provider.

Doree: Yeah.

Kate: Okay.

Doree: Talk, talk to talk to a medical provider who is not the doctor who's trying to sell you LASIK.

Kate: Get a second LASIK opinion, get

Doree: A, just get a second opinion. Okay. Um, and again, I'm excited for this listener, but I, I felt that it, it was, uh, my, my professional responsibility to just note that.

Kate: This is why I admire you so Doree. You just have a, you just have a real moral center, moral core if

Doree: You oh wow. Thank you. Sometimes I think I'm, I'm like a, I'm like a Debbie downer, you know, like I'm always the person who's like, well, have you thought about the fact, you know, it's like,

Kate: I think you're a questioner. And so you look at all, I am sides of stuff, you know?

Doree: Yeah. That's true. Kate. You're right when you're right. You're right.

Kate: No, thank you. I'll take that.

Doree: You're you're usually right. So

Kate: Most of the time,

Doree: Um, oh right Kate, we have a voicemail.

Voicemail: Hello. I just thought I would call in. I'm sitting here having a cup of coffee, listening to forever 35 and I'm working on my diamond art. And I just thought, I give you guys a call. Excuse me, give you all a call and Sarah A. Little bit, um, about diamond art, a little hard for me to describe because I'm not great with descriptions here. A quick Google spiritual will reveal this craft. That is like the first craft I'm probably ever going to be able to finish. I, because it takes not a lot of skill, no learning curve and there's something kind of obsessive and interesting and relaxing about it. Um, kinda a step up from an adult coloring book and it's just something I leave out on the kitchen island, uh, when people are watching sports, I've got my little thing out. I can be, you know, part of the conversation, but doing my own thing. Um, a lot less time on the phone. Great little option for in between work sprints. That is not on the screen. So I just wanted to offer that up for anyone who might be interested. I do recommend getting one that has multiple colors in it. I think it just makes it a lot more satisfying. So I hope you all are doing well. I, bye. Bye.

Doree: Fascinating.

Kate: Have you ever heard of diamond art? I feel like we've talked about it before. Like have you done it?

Doree: Oh yes. I have not done it, but I have seen it. Um, and it does look relaxing.

Kate: It's essentially like pushing little it's like paint by numbers. Right. But with like tiny rhinestones essentially. Yeah. So you're using some little handy tool to kind of press stones onto a picture.

Doree: Totally. Yes. That's like, that's really what it is.

Kate: That's what it is. Okay. Let's see a beginner kit. Wow. These are like very intricate item. So a beginner seems to be in like the $30 range. Okay. Color me curious. What do you do with the art that you create? Do you just hang it somewhere? Do you give it away? Do you throw it away? What do you do with it?

Doree: Great question, Kate. Great question

Kate: Right . I would love to know, but uh, okay. Diamond art. I'm definitely um,

Doree: You're diamond. Dark curious.

Kate: Yes. But what I don't wanna do is what I always do, which is that go like throw my soul and my money at a new hobby. And then like a month later, I'm like, I'm done with that.

Doree: Right. Well, I think you could start with one.

Kate: This would be a fun, you know what? This would be fun for Doree. What if you and I ever like go away on kind of like a, a retreat for a weekend. This seems like it would be fun to like sit in the desert with your coffee or your wine or whatever. And some chips and salsa

Doree: Doing diamond art.

Kate: Yeah. Eeach doing a diamond art?

Doree: Yes. I love it. I love this idea.

Kate: Yeah. Okay. Well maybe we can do it that way.

Doree: Okay. Let's Do it.

Kate: All right. I like this self care for listener. All right. Do you wanna read this, uh, next email? I'm obsessed with this question.

Email: Hello friends. This isn't the first time I've emailed. There's a fascinating read on Peral dermatitis. Very deep in your inbox. But I had to write in again with a pressing question. What is normal glass and dishwasher etiquette. When at someone's home, I'm constantly flabbergasted by the number of guests who leave the dishes on the sink or counter after yet another guest left to glass on the counter this afternoon. I started wondering if I'm the maniac who puts unwanted dishes in the washer when I should be leaving them out.

Kate: Okay. Where do we stand on this? This is fascinating to me.

Doree: I would never presume to load someone else's dishwasher.

Kate: So I try to do it. If I'm a guest at some one's house, I always try to do it. And then I, I realize like mid attempt that I'm like, oh, I'm I might be doing this in a way that you don't like, because some people are very, very particular about how their dishes are loaded.

Doree: Yes, exactly. And I would say 10 times out of 10, you know, if I say like, what should I do with the dishes? They will say, oh, just leave them in the sink. I have literally, no one has ever said to me, put them in the dishwasher. This is, this is wild to me that this person expects her guests to load the dishwasher. I like, I don't know. I'm, I'm flabbergasted by this.

Kate: See, I, I, I love like, I, I can see what this person is experiencing because if someone, like, if I hosted dinner at my house and you grab some plates and put them in the dishwasher, I would be like, cool, thanks. I am not precious about how dishes are loaded in my dishwasher. I'm married to someone who is he? Really?

Doree: There you go.

Kate: How I load the bowls. Um, right. But I would just appreciate it. And, but also

Doree: You and I are close enough. Like, I feel like I've said to you, should I just throw these in the dishwasher and you, and you've been like, yes, please. Or you've been like, just leave them in the sink. Like the dishes are clean. Like, I feel like we've had, we've had both of those exact exchanges. Sure. But you are someone I feel very close and comfortable with. I don't know. I don't know. I guess I, I guess I would ask it would not be my first instinct. You know what I mean? Like I would not.

Kate: Yes.

Doree: I would not. Without asking open someone's dishwasher and put dishes in it, I would never do that. I

Kate: I'm with you Like this listener says, and yet another guest left a glass on the counter this afternoon. That's what I would do. Like if I was having a glass of water at your house story, I would leave it on the counter. Yes. And

Doree: I would expect you to,

Kate: That would be my gesture of like, Hey, I'm bringing this to the washing station.

Doree: Right. You're not leaving it on the coffee table.

Kate: No. Now I will say, if you don't have a dishwasher and I'm at your house, I will get in there and wash those dishes.

Doree: I feel like a lot of people, like, I, I feel like oftentimes when that is offered, I think sometimes the hosts just wants her guests wants their guests to like, leave. Like they're done. You know what I mean? And like having someone stick around to wash dishes, they're sort of like, I'm

Kate: Like, how long can I stay here? Yeah.

Doree: Um, but then sometimes I think they will, and it's always nice to offer, but I, I think this assumption that guests should load your dishwasher. I, I personally think that that is, um, unrealistic. I also find it interesting that you have never verbalized this listener. Like, it sounds like you have guests over quite often and they continue to annoy you that they're not putting the dishes in the dishwasher. So why don't you just say to them, Hey, could you just throw those in the dishwasher? Yeah.

Kate: I think you could just ask

Doree: It. Yeah. Like why assume that they're mind readers. I dunno.

Kate: But I also do think this is a good point because they ask like, am I the quote maniac who puts unwanted dishes in the washer when I should be leaving them out? I do think it's always good to ask when you're at someone's house.

Doree: Yes.

Kate: So I would just make it a habit of telling and make it a habit of asking and I think you're okay. Okay. You've got this.

Doree: Yes. I think that's great.

Kate: Yeah. Wow. What a hot topic.

Doree: Wow. I know who knew that I would get so passionate about that. I mean

Kate: Done. Yeah. Obviously It's like right up your alley.

Doree: Oh. So up my alley, you know me so well, all right. We're gonna be right back.

Doree: All right. We are back with I, what I would characterize as an instantly iconic forever35 listener, email,

Kate: This email, I wanna say earned the honor of being discussed in a text message Where Doree texted me was like, oh my God, we just got the best email. And I don't remember what I was doing. I was like in the middle, like I was at physical therapy, I was doing something and I was just like, what could it be about? And then I went and I saw it the best email we've received. Okay. Here we go.

Email: Cat and door from the moment eggplant, emojis were first mentioned on the pod. I thought someone is going to write into comment on what that emoji is typically used to mean. But now I'm having a very, if not me then who moment? And I'm wondering if I was supposed to be the one to chime in. I'm a 34 year old woman who married the guy I started in college. So I'm not entirely sure why I have this knowledge, but the eggplant emoji is pretty ubiquitously used as shorthand for penis. After hearing you mention it numerous times, I was beginning to wonder if I'm some wacko and this is a fringe usage of the emoji, but Google has assured me, it's pretty well known to quote Wikipedia. Social media users have noted the emojis, phallic appearance, and often use it as a euphemistic or suggestive icon during sexting conversations for research tells me that Facebook and Instagram both ban the emoji. If it's used in a manner to suggest anything sexual. So my question is, is this news to you or is all the eggplant emoji talk an effort to quote, take back the emoji quote, if you will, either way I fully support you claiming the eggplant emoji as your own. I just thought that maybe it was time for me to say something before Kate doodled them all over her books, which I am so excited to read.

Kate: Listener. I love you so much. I love you deeply. I love your pure heart and your kindness and your like, willingness to accept that it could be either thing. And the truth is we do know that it is, uh, a penis and quite honestly, I don't know why it was the emoji. I mentioned, oh, I do know why, because it's the penis emoji. When I was like, Hey everybody, you know, just text us emojis, like a horse or a penis or a horse or an eggplant because LOL, you know, the eggplant emoji, and now it's taken on a life of its own. But yes, do were aware. We were aware. I, we did not intend to like take back the emoji. It was literally an offhand. No dumb joke, like a childish Kate Spencer joke.

Doree: Kate, do you see I'm holding up?

Kate: Oh, is it my, okay. And, and as, as we've discussed, I need to you yes. Yes. An anonymous listener did, uh, send me, uh, an eggplant stamp. Um, so if you are coming to my book signing event at the ripped bodice, um, and you want that, I will have it. I will have it with me if you are, if you're a forever 35 listener and you just want, well, maybe stamp it on you, you know, you never know. Oh, wow. That real weird.

Doree: Yes.

Kate: Yeah. So, I mean, I love the idea of taking back the eggplant emoji. So, but what would it stand for? Maybe it just stands for forever 35 last night, Doree. I did a live book event promotion event with my yes, um, marketing team. And there were many listeners attending it and just people were just putting eggplant emojis in the chat and I was dying. Oh my God. That's so funny. So it's just our inside joke now, you know, it's just a listener inside joke.

Doree: Totally. I'm just thinking about like this listener who wrote in is like concerned that maybe we like texted someone about eggplant Parmesan and used the emoji without like knowing.

Kate: eggplant on is also probably one of my favorite foods. So I'm a fan of eggplant. I just had some for lunch.

Doree: This is, this is multi-layered.

Kate: It's just, I mean, look, we're taking it back. Thank you. And thank you listener for being the one, like taking it upon yourself. If not me, then who I appreciate that you were called to do this. You were the best.

Doree: All right. Well, Kate, we have one more voicemail.

Kate: One more.

Voicemail: Hey cat. Um, just discounts. Um, I just left the cosmetics company store. This is I think, super popular in strip malls. Um, I'm in Florida for the winter. It's hard to avoid strip malls, but anyway, um, they very chatty checkout lady told me they're owned by estee lauder. Um, tons of deals across the board. I got like 70% off, a bunch of bumble and bumble stuff, which is amazing. And they had a pretty good selection. It wasn't just like the one random product. No, one's fine. Um, but anyway, I'm trying to think what else they had. Um, pretty much everything they had to take the day off, um, makeup remover. I got this discontinued that I love for $2 and 50 cents. Like what a steel, um, tons of glam glow, um, some Mac stuff. Too Faced. I dunno anything that estee lauder has, but anyway, I feel like I went into these when I was a teenager and it was a lot of like off brand weird color makeup like that. I wouldn't usually, or like there wasn't a good, but I was super impressed this time. I thought I wondered in and MI was like, they super off everything. Plus 10% off everything in the store and 15% off of this and that. So, um, yeah, the Bumble and Bumble, that was the really, but I highly recommend people check it out. If they're near a cosmetics company store, I was super impressed. Anyway. Thanks. Probably do. The pod is a bright part of my day and love you guys. Bye.

Doree: I've never been to a cosmetics company store.

Kate: I've never even heard of this.

Doree: Yeah. Me neither. Is this like a Florida thing?

Kate: No, I think it's like an outlets kind of thing. Um, because I do see, you know, I just did a quick search and I do see that we have some, some outlet spots in Southern California. So now I'm like, Ooh, I gotta get in there. The only way I would say is like, I am a bit cautious when it comes to discounted makeup products and skin care products. So check those expiration.

Doree: Yeah. I had the same thought. I feel like this comes up a lot when people buy stuff at like TJ, max.

Kate: Yeah. Yeah. But great hot tip for a new store to check out. I'm quite literally never heard of this.

Doree: Yeah. This is a great tip.

Kate: Well Doree, we're done. We're done here.

Doree: We are done here.

Kate: We're done. Thank you all for participating in this conversation. And we look forward to chatting again very soon.

Doree: Bye.