Kate lives her best celebrity gossip life and Doree deals with the rust issue in her closet. Then, listeners let Kate know she’s inspired their new butter eating habit, tell Doree not to parent with bangs, and ask how to grieve over and let go of traditions as you grow older. 

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Kate Spencer: Hello welcome to Forever35, a podcast about the things we do to take care of ourselves. I'm Kate Spencer,

Doree Shafrir: And I am Doree Shafrir.

Kate Spencer: We are not experts.

Doree Shafrir: No, but we are two friends who like to talk a lot about Serums.

Kate Spencer: And this is a mini episode where we hear from you. We share your comments and your thoughts, and we answer your questions to the best of our ability.

Doree Shafrir: And please remember we are podcast hosts.

Kate Spencer: Mm

Doree Shafrir: That's. What we are experts in.

Kate Spencer: That's our Job.

Doree Shafrir: We're not, we're not broadly experts in like everything, no contrary to popular belief.

Kate Spencer: Everybody Thinks everyone thinks we're experts. Yeah. It's as if they haven't, they have never heard this message.

Doree Shafrir: It's true. Well, we do just wanna remind you that we encourage you to seek support first and foremost for, and or mental health professional as needed.

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Kate Spencer: Yeah. And you know, the great Kate Spencer preorder, my book Bonanza is going on. I deeply appreciate you. Preordering it. I will sign and personalize it. If you order from one of two bookstores and those links are in our show notes,

Doree Shafrir: Are you practicing your eggplant emojis? How, how are they? Cause I know we on this, but I just wanted to find out if there was any progress.

Kate Spencer: I did have the thought of buying a purple Sharpie so that oh, if someone requested an eggplant emoji or just like put one in next to their name. Yeah, I could

Doree Shafrir: I, that super smart actually

Kate Spencer: Draw them an egg. Yeah, I will. I will also say if you order a personalized copy of my book and you note this, if you can note this in the notes, I will sign my name with a horse head. As I used to do as a child. If you would like me to draw my horse head, I would be honored to put that in permanent ink for you.

Doree Shafrir: That's amazing.

Kate Spencer: Kate. horsehead Spencer.

Doree Shafrir: I Was also just thinking you could get an eggplant stencil.

Kate Spencer: Doree. Can you imagine if I'm I go to sign books and I show up with like a collared pencil set and a, my various eggplant stencils and I'm doing my shading and I'm really just really taking my time drawing each eggplant.

Doree Shafrir: I mean, I would, I would respect that

Kate Spencer: There, you know, someone did email our email, the show and ask us like, what is the origin of this eggplant thing that you keep talking about? And truly, I think it just started as a, like when we ever, we would talk about like, feel free to text the show. I would just add some stupid thing and like send me an emoji, like send an eggplant and now it's become, it's become a movement.

Doree Shafrir: It, it is,

Kate Spencer: It's a movement. It's a movement. Ah, okay. So can I just tell you about this pimple?

Doree Shafrir: Yes.

Kate Spencer: Okay. Because this feels revelatory to me. So I sent, so gather around to the campfire. Everybody I sent Doree a very close up photo of a pimple on the part between your lip and your nose. You know, that part of the face does that part of the face have a name, the upper lip. I feel

Doree Shafrir: Like, I feel like people just call it like the upper lip.

Kate Spencer: It's a real, no man's land part of your face, you know, but I have a zip right there. You can kind of still see it. Um, and it was the kind of zip that is the white kind, but that's hard, you know, know that kind.

Doree Shafrir: Yeah. I mean, those are the kinds that I'm always tempted to just Pop.

Kate Spencer: Oh yes. Oh yes. I wanted to so badly and I even tried, but it like wasn't budging and then you responded and you said, do you have any pimple patches? And I was like, I know this is the right thing to do. So last night I washed my face. I did my doctor, Dennis Gross, LED light mask. I put moisture on moisturizer on everywhere, but this little pimple area. And then I put on a pimple patch. Well, I, in my brain and like, when we've talked about pimple patches, it's always kind of like, it's a bandaid. Like I know that they're like technically medicated, but really I think about it as like a way so that I don't pick at the pimple Doree. When I tell you that I woke up this morning and I took that pimple patch off and the white stuff was gone. Oh,

Doree Shafrir: That's so satisfying.

Kate Spencer: I don't know if it, the, if it was a ripped off with the patch, I don't know where it went, but the patch got rid of the pimple, like fully. And this was a pimple that was like, it was ready to go. It was ready to burst. Like it was gross. It was big. It was noticeable. And, and now it's just like that kind of now it's just like a red healing spot. It's truly bizarre. I did not expect the pimple patch to actually get rid of the pimple. I've never seen that before.

Doree Shafrir: I think you have, I think you have better, a better chance of it getting rid of the pimple. If it like yours is already has a white head.

Kate Spencer: Oh.

Doree Shafrir: Because then it really has stuff to like suck out. Um, in, I

Kate Spencer: Sting,

Doree Shafrir: I often put them on those pimples that are like below the surface.

Kate Spencer: Ugh. Yes.

Doree Shafrir: Um, because they, you can't pop them and they're painful often and I want to be picking them. So I will often put a, uh, pimple patch on them. And if I'm lucky, sometimes the pimple patch will sort of draw out some puss or like bring out the white head.

Kate Spencer: I was shocked.

Doree Shafrir: Yeah.

Kate Spencer: I was truly shocked. I mean, I have to give credit to these CosRX pimple patches. There it's a hydrocolloid bandage, which is basically like a protection, but look, they say they can also reduce the appearance of the blemish. And I am living proof. I was, I was truly floored. Yeah. So thank you. CosRX, acne pimple master patch. This was a real also I'm making videos for people as part of my book promotion. And so it really helped me not have a massive zit on my face. Oh, only like a tiny zip.

Doree Shafrir: Wow.

Kate Spencer: Yeah. Also Doree, I did need to just note something because listeners have been writing in, I got the celebrity news I needed because the stars of crash landing on you are getting married

Doree Shafrir: Now. Sorry. I do not follow K dramas. Were they known to be in a relationship?

Kate Spencer: Okay. So not when the show started, but then they were obviously shipped and they had been like photographed together, grocery shopping in Los Angeles. And they had been like maybe seen playing golf kind of together. I think it was golf, golf or tennis. Like they were friendly and it was definitely clear that like maybe they were hanging out IRL, but then they like formally announced it. I think because it had come to the, the surface they'd formally announced it on their Instagram. And then they, each formally announced it on their Instagram again, that they were getting married with like Beautiful, Really thoughtful captions. And of course they're, they're writing all in Korean. So I'm reading the English translation. So I'm not getting the, you know, the full power and meaning of their words and sentiment that they're writing. But, uh, the, like, it was very moving. So if you haven't watched crash landing on you, they have amazing chemistry. It's Hyun Bin and Son Ye-jin, and they are to die for. And I like truly, when I saw they got engaged, I, uh, I died. I died there's well also they're like the two hottest people ever. And like, if you watch any interview with them, they have so much chemistry. And like, I just, I can't, I just I'm obsessed with 'em. So I'm so happy. I truly, this made my day. Yeah. Wow. Yeah.

Doree Shafrir: This is, this is exciting for you. I, I feel like between this and the Rihanna pregnancy news.

Kate Spencer: Oh, that really did me in too,

Doree Shafrir: I Mean, you are just living your best celebrity gossip play.

Kate Spencer: I needed it, you know, and then I will also say the super bowl halftime show. Okay. That helped too

Doree Shafrir: Kate. I mean, these are all things that we need as humans.

Kate Spencer: I appreciate these celebrities delivering on. Yeah.

Doree Shafrir: Finally, gosh,

Kate Spencer: Specifically my needs. Thank you for the joy. Anyway, Doree, uh, as Willard, Scott says, what's new in your neck of the woods,

Doree Shafrir: Aww Willard Scott.

Kate Spencer: I know R I P

Doree Shafrir: Um, well, Kate, you know, we've been a little bit about our experiences using our advertiser color guru. And I had already talked about how it was helping me, especially like not buy things like in the, in a big, second hand Facebook group that you and I are both in.

Kate Spencer: We love second hand scores

Doree Shafrir: Um, but what I had not yet done was go through my current wardrobe.

Kate Spencer: Yeah.

Doree Shafrir: And get rid of anything that I now know is not flattering on me.

Kate Spencer: And you were being ruthless.

Doree Shafrir: I was being Ruthless.

Kate Spencer: You Were sharing With me Some of the things that were, yeah. I mean, I was floored at some of the things you were getting rid of, like, one of the dresses that you got rid of is the dress that I, that you wore to your book, signing launch party at skylight books. I can remember you like waltzing in, in this dress.

Doree Shafrir: Yes I wore that Dress a Lot.

Kate Spencer: Yeah. So I was very like, moved that you decided no more.

Doree Shafrir: Yeah. So, um, that feels really good. Like I look, I, I mean, I Got rid of like half my wardrobe. Um, and I look in my closet now and I'm like, oh boy, there's not a lot there. But like, what is there is like stuff that I will happily wear. Same with like my t-shirt drawer. I got rid of a lot of t-shirts. It's just not my colors. I have a lot of stuff that was like, basically the same colors, my skin tone, which is just like, for someone as pale as me is just like not a, not a good, not a good look. So it was, it felt good to get rid of that stuff. Yeah. I'm feeling great about it actually. And you know,

Kate Spencer: Do you feel like a Weight's been lifted

Doree Shafrir: A little bit kind of, it also honestly felt good to get rid of things, to get rid of some quote unquote nicer things.

Kate Spencer: Oh, those are The tough ones.

Doree Shafrir: that I actually don't wear, you Know?

Kate Spencer: But they're the, they're the should items in your closet, right? Yes. Like you should wear them.

Doree Shafrir: Yes, exactly. So that actually did feel really, really good. So I don't know. It's a whole new me. I wore a shirt. Yes. Yesterday to, um, a birthday party for a couple friends of Henry's and it's a shirt I've had for a while. I think I originally got a at target, not like anything fancy, but I, well, a I'd sort of forgotten about it. It was like buried in my closet, amidst, you know, mountains of clothes that I don't wear, but it's one of the colors that, you know, I'm supposed to look good on me.

Kate Spencer: And, and what color is it?

Doree Shafrir: It's like a Fuschia. It's very similar to the color that I'm wearing today,

Kate Spencer: which Is, is very pretty.

Doree Shafrir: Thank you. And I got a compliment on the shirt

Kate Spencer: By me.

Doree Shafrir: No, no,

Kate Spencer: I complimented your dress. Sorry.

Doree Shafrir: you complimented my dress today, but I got a compliment Yesterday. Yes. So I was like, oh, that's such a pretty color. And I was like, thank you.

Kate Spencer: I got My colors done is one of the colors you're supposed to be wearing a blue, like kind of a bright Royal blue, which I think looks so good on you. And you I've never really seen you wear that much. So I'm excited to see you kind of like,

Doree Shafrir: There's some, there's some colors and actually there was a dress, um, that was exactly that color. And I put it on and I was like, Ooh, I love the color, but it didn't really fit me. Right. But it was good to just like put the color on and be like, oh yeah, this is a good color on me. Well, so that was

Kate Spencer: Weird. Like the colors that we are Dr, like are drawn to with our eyes are not always the colors that flatter us, you know?

Doree Shafrir: Yes. And especially when the, there are certain colors that are like trendy.

Kate Spencer: Oh please. I mean, you and I both have dealt with the, the rust issue.

Doree Shafrir: Yeah, Yeah,

Kate Spencer: Yeah. It's Not for us. So The rust issue, well, you know, like literally everything for the last, I don't know, four years has been in that kind of like dusty road,

Doree Shafrir: Totally rust. And I, I owned a lot of it.

Kate Spencer: Yeah. Same.

Doree Shafrir: So, well wait, but you can wear it. You're an autumn.

Kate Spencer: I can, but it's like, not my number one. Like I should be in brighter, a brighter red.

Doree Shafrir: Oh, interesting. Interesting,

Kate Spencer: Interesting. Yeah. Or like a more pink shirt. I mean, look, I I'll do it if I have to, but I don't think it's like either of our, like top Colors.

Doree Shafrir: Well, it's, I mean, it's, it's, it's a forbidden color for me.

Kate Spencer: A forbidden fruit,

Doree Shafrir: A forbidden fruit color.

Kate Spencer: Yeah. If you will, will, which she will. Well, Doree, we've got some fun listener messages to, uh, share after we take a, a, we break.

Doree Shafrir: Let's do it.

Kate Spencer: all Righty.

Doree Shafrir: Okay. We'll be right back.

Kate Spencer: So This first listener sent us two text messages that I just, I just wanted to share both. So the first one was, is it bad that I've now tried eating butter plain after listening to you? Kate and I kind of love it first time. Texter, long time listener. I just wanna say, no, it's not bad. Butter is delicious. Like welcome aboard. You've been missing out your whole life. I hope more people have been moved to just eat plain salted butter by my words.

Doree Shafrir: Oh my gosh, you are a butter influencer.

Kate Spencer: butter influencer. I wish like the butter community would embrace me. What if I got sponsored by Carrie gold?

Doree Shafrir: Wow.

Kate Spencer: Land o lakes.

Doree Shafrir: You got sponsored by the like American dairy association.

Kate Spencer: You know what? I, I don't wanna, I don't wanna mess with other kinds of dairy. I just want that salted butter. And I want it to be good. A European cream is really where I'm at no offense to American butter, but you just, you're not cutting it. Italian butter. Ooh, baby.

Kate Spencer: I would Literally Dory. If someone invited me to a butter tasting, like the same way, one goes to a wine tasting, I would attend that.

Doree Shafrir: You know, there is a restaurant here in Los Angeles, um, that is like known for their bread and butter service. And mind you, they do not just bring you a basket of bread. You have to order the it's it's an extra charge. But part of their whole selling point is that their butter is like so delicious. And it really is no it's Republic.

Kate Spencer: I don't know if I've ever had their butter

Doree Shafrir: Kate.

Kate Spencer: Oh, no. We gotta go on a date.

Doree Shafrir: Yeah, we do. Yeah, we do

Doree Shafrir: We'll just SIdle up to the bar and say, get me an old fashioned and some bread and butter.

Kate Spencer: Two cups of butter please. Oh my God. Okay. That would be fun. I would love to just go eat their butter. I didn't know. They were special. They were known for their butter. Okay.

Doree Shafrir: Yes. Yes. Their butter is very good.

Kate Spencer: All right. Listen, anyone else wants to talk butter? You know where to find me? Uh, okay. So this was then wrote another text. I have a nighttime routine hack that I recently discovered. I'm the type of person who wants to get straight in bed as soon as I feel tired. So I often skip washing my face or brushing my teeth on occasion so that I can lie down as quickly as possible. I realized however that if I simply wash my face and brush my teeth earlier in the night, an hour or so before I get sleepy, that it's way less daunting. And it makes me feel so good to be able to just jump right into bed when I'm tired. Okay. We must be the same person cuz I have recently kind of discovered this too.

Doree Shafrir: Oh,

Kate Spencer: It's just a lot easier if you do those two things like when you're a little bit more awake, cuz then you're, you're just more motivated to do them. I often have been known to go to sleep without brushing my teeth or washing my face. Doree, do you wanna read this text or do you want me to read it?

Doree Shafrir: I can read it. Okay. Kate Do not let Doree cut bangs. They need to be managed and it is too hard. Caring for a child and dog. Also. It is harder for working out and Doree risks impacting her Peloton ways. Do not do it signed a mid thirties woman who thought recuting bangs again in 2021 was a good idea. It wasn't. Don't. Let. Her. Do it.

Doree Shafrir: What do you think?

Kate Spencer: Um, I mean, I know look, I, I had bangs for most of my life. Like it's not like, I don't know the deal with bangs. I knew. Did you deal?

Doree Shafrir: Did you have bangs when you had Henry?

Doree Shafrir: No. I'd grown them out. So

Kate Spencer: You've never parented with bangs.

Doree Shafrir: I've never parented with banks. That is correct. But I'm just saying like, it's not like, I don't know. You know, the upkeep that banks require, they require a lot of upkeep. They're annoying. Like now I can go 12, 16 weeks between haircuts.

Kate Spencer: Oh, I thought you were into say between washing your hair. And I was like, what?

Doree Shafrir: 12, 16 weeks between washing my hair. Yeah.

Kate Spencer: First I thought you were gonna say days. And then when you said weeks, I was like, where is this going?

Doree Shafrir: Okay. Um, but with bangs, you know, you have to go in, even if you don't get a full haircut, you have like, unless you can trim your own bangs, which I was never really able to do. You have to go in and get a bang trim. A lot of places will just do it for free, but like you still have to go in and actually do it. And I actually, I don't know how that is now with COVID, but like, that's like another thing it's like another maintenance thing that you have to do. And I always felt like my bangs were either like just too long or just too short. They were never just right.

Kate Spencer: Yeah. That this is where I would this. I would be lost the, the, having the upkeep of having to go somewhere every few weeks and get a bang trim that I just couldn't couldn't handle.

Doree Shafrir: I mean, Look, that was my life. Okay.

Kate Spencer: I mean no disrespect. I admire the hustle, but it's exhausting. When now when is exhausting haircut? Isn't it tomorrow?

Doree Shafrir: No, it's in three days. Oh, okay. By the time this comes out, it will be out. It will, it will be, um, done.

Kate Spencer: It will be determined. You will either have bangs or you won't.

Doree Shafrir: Yeah.

Kate Spencer: Are you leaning one way or the other?

Doree Shafrir: I'm not.

Kate Spencer: I fully believe. I mean, I hear what this listener saying, but I fully believe you have to let someone go on their own hair journey without trying to stop them.

Doree Shafrir: Oh wow.

Kate Spencer: Okay. I really do. I really, cuz I think it's like anything you're never gonna really know until you just go through with it and do it. You have to just do it.

Doree Shafrir: Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I'm gonna have a Frank conversation with my, uh, hair stylist.

Kate Spencer: I can't wait to hear where this goes. I'm so excited. This is a real kind of like living on the edge experience because we don't know what you're gonna do. And I think you're very, you plan ahead. Like you normally know

Doree Shafrir: I do, but you know, I also think this is gonna be an interesting test of my relationship with my hair stylist, who I've only been seeing for about a year and a half, I would say. So, you know, it's not like a long time relationship, but it's like, is she just gonna be a yes woman? Or is she gonna like, tell me what's what,

Kate Spencer: Wow know what I'm saying. I hope she listens to this podcast so she can prepare for this cut.

Doree Shafrir: No it'll be too Late.

Kate Spencer: Wow. She has no idea what kind of pressure she's under.

Doree Shafrir: I know. I know. No. I mean I'm just, I'm I'm, I'm mostly kidding, but I know, you know, there are some hairstylists who are just like, yeah, I'll do that. Like whatever you say. And then you're like, wait a second. Why didn't you like warn me with your, like all of your professional expertise? Why didn't you tell me that this was A bad idea, But maybe I'll bring it up and she'll be like, yeah, like, and it will actually be a good idea. We don't know

Kate Spencer: Doree. I've never been on the edge of my seat as I am right now. Oh

Doree Shafrir: Gosh.

Kate Spencer: Well I can't wait. All right. Well the next time, you know, we get to record the, this podcast later in the week and these, these bangs either will exist or they won't. So I'm ready. Yep. I cannot wait. Yep.

Doree Shafrir: Yep.

Kate Spencer: Okay. Let's uh, share this voicemail.

Doree Shafrir: Okay, here we go.

Speaker 3: Hey, kate and Dory. I was calling because, um, I am 31 years old and my family and I have taken the same vacation every three years since 93, I think. Um, we rent a house on the same lake with our family. Um, and it just used to be my all time. Favorite thing we did every year, but the past couple years, it just hasn't been the same. We've lost some family members, um, who passed away, who used to come on this trip? My sister can't come anymore just because it's too hard for her, to take the vacation. Um, and I'm a teacher. So I feel like there's always this assumption that I'll just always go because it's during my summer break and I have off. Um, but last year it was just, it was just really lonely. It was just like my parents and all their old retired siblings. And you know, I was just like by myself and it just didn't feel the same. And I know the right answer deep down is that I should just tell my parents that I'm not gonna come this year and I need to pass, but I'm having a really hard time, you know, just grieving the loss of this thing that used to be so special to me. And just knowing that, you know, certain things, once you get older, they just change. And they're not the same. I was just wondering if you had any experience with something similar, just realizing that sometimes things have run their course and you have to let them go. Um, I know I'm, I'm really bad at letting things go. So I was just seeing if you, or if anybody else on the pod had any advice or, um, things have gone through that are. Similar, thanks so much. Bye.

Doree Shafrir: Mm.

Kate Spencer: This resonates With me. Well, I just, I think perhaps we've all had this feeling where this, or maybe, maybe it's just me, but you, this thing that you remember from childhood, like sometimes it's like, I remember getting to visit my cousins when they came to Boston and there was an indoor pool at the hotel and we'd get to go swim the indoor pool. And I remember it being like the most glorious playground like that a person could imagine. And then as an adult, you go back and you look at it and it's just like a gross, tiny pool in like a hot, weird humid basement of a Marriot hotel in Boston. You know what I mean? Like the things that, that are so huge and magical to us when we're younger, either we, we get older and we see them through adult eyes like cynical, you know, human adult eyes, or they've just changed. And I do think that that like family magic that you experience as a kid, you know, if you're lucky to get to experience it when it changes and aging happens and people stop showing up and a lot of that kind of joy has changed. That can be really depressing. Like there, there can be, um, there can be a grieving that goes along with the loss of some thing like that.

Doree Shafrir: Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I think anything where we're sort of, we sort of have to confront the transition into a different phase of our lives is it can be very overwhelming,

Kate Spencer: Especially when there's like the aging of adults in our lives. And just kind of seeing the kind of, kind of experiencing that. I, I, I'm just finding that to be kind of hard. Emotionally, you know, I think there's a lot at play here.

Doree Shafrir: Yeah. I would say give yourself a lot of grace and like let yourself feel what you're gonna feel.

Kate Spencer: Yeah. But you definitely don't have to go if it's not, maybe you could FaceTime in and just say hi or go for a night.

Doree Shafrir: Yeah.

Kate Spencer: You could invite us.

Doree Shafrir: You could invite us. We would happily come.

Kate Spencer: We would come. We would be there. Anyway. I, that is a really interesting question. I, I, that kind of passage of time and, and grieving the loss of the something that you loved as a kid and the changing that happens when time moves forward is just an interesting thing to kind of think about. I, I would love to hear more about this.

Doree Shafrir: Me too.

Kate Spencer: All right. Well, we're gonna take a break first.

Doree Shafrir: Okay. Let's do it.

Kate Spencer: All right.

Doree Shafrir: All right. We are back with an email greetings cat and dor from Frigid minus 22 Celsius with a windchill that's minus seven Fahrenheit to you, Toronto, Canada. I thought I would share what I've started doing as a form of self-care this long freezing winter. I've been watching charming Danish, French, Spanish, and Italian movies and series on Netflix. I watch in 30 minute English caption chunks during my lunch, I work from home while walking slash running on the treadmill, the storylines are usually light enough that I don't have to pay super close attention. Genre is always comedy drama and the European backdrops are scratching. My itchy traveling itch. This has now become part of my Workday, and I look forward to it daily, incorporating this as a daily habit combats. My mid afternoon slump helps me sleep better at night and always puts me in a better mood. Here are some series slash movies I have thoroughly enjoyed. If you are so inclined to give this a try, Valeria, reeda, friend zone, baby, elite, summertime, love and anarchy, bonus family, generation 56K. Our lovers, out of my league, sounds like love, and I love you stupid.

Kate Spencer: Great. Um, it seems Right up our alley.

Doree Shafrir: It does. And it also just sort of like reminded me of the fact that if nothing else, one amazing thing that Netflix has done for us is it has exposed us to so many amazing TV shows and movies from around the world that we never or would have had access to.

Kate Spencer: Yeah. And I feel like, especially as Americans, our media consumption tends to be very American focused while the rest of the world consumes our media. Totally. And it really is, you know, it is on us to broaden our own horizons, but thank you Netflix for making it easier.

Doree Shafrir: Yes. Thank you.

Kate Spencer: Thank You, Netflix. Also, thank you. I mean, there's, we've get so many great recommendations from listeners about, um, shows that are from other countries and, uh, I'm, I'm excited to dig in. I mean, I still have to Deal with like half the American shows I gotta watch. Yeah, I know. I, I, haven't watched yellow jackets and there's a, there's a long list,

Doree Shafrir: but what a nice also what a nice daily ritual this person has. Yes.

Kate Spencer: I also think it's so good for us to hear other languages for us, people those of us who only speak one language, I should say. Um, I know many people speak and hear multiple languages, but like, I, I it's like it's made my brain feel better. I don't know how to describe it. Yeah. I gotta think more about what I'm trying to say here, but I do really enjoy hearing other languages when I watch, when I watch things.

Doree Shafrir: Um, I have some bad news about season three. I think of one of my formerly favorite French Netflix shows the hookup plan. Do you remember? I talked about this show bunch. Season one is great. Season two is pretty good. And I watched one episode of season three and I was just like, no, no. Oh no, it's not fun anymore. The whole point of that show was for it to be fun. And now it's not fun. Okay. That's annoying. They did not. They, they, they got some other memo that went out and what, oh, I know it's very upsetting. I was like all excited to start a new season. Then I was like, oh no.

Kate Spencer: And that makes me so mad. I really hate when a show like.

Doree Shafrir: the main character has gotten really annoying anyway, whatever. I'm not here to complain about this television show, but it just remind. And I had been meaning to mention that.

Kate Spencer: Well, thank you for letting me know.

Doree Shafrir: Well, you're welcome. Right. Let's let's hear one more voicemail. Kate.

Speaker 4: I'm so excited. Um, hi everyone. Hi, KAt And dor. Um, I literally had to pause up pod to call in. I, I always hear you guys or hear listeners do that and I always have always have wanted to do it. And here I go, uh, I'm calling from Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada, where it is literally minus 23 degree Celsius. It is f-ing cold. I just wanted to say that throughout the time that I have listened to you and to everyone in the community, I've grown so much. And I'm proud to call in and say that at the age of 40 years old, I have just completed successfully completed a makeup artistry program. It is something I have wanted to do since I was about 12 year old, 12 years old buying max factor at, um, I guess it would've been Walco back then. Um, I'm 40 years old. I am starting my career as a makeup artistry. I feel like it's a crazy decision, but I don't care I'm doing it because it's never too old and it's never too late. And I learned that from you and all of the wonderful listeners and community out there. And I just wanna say, thank you so much for giving me my life back and encouraging me to do what makes me happy. And that is makeup damnit. Anyway, love you guys love everybody that phones in and listens. You guys are such an awesome supportive community. I hope you have a wonderful and much warmer day. Thank you so much. Bye.

Doree Shafrir: Aww,

Doree Shafrir: I mean the joy in their voice overdoing what their heart desires is so tangible.

Doree Shafrir: Yeah.

Doree Shafrir: Oh, we are so excited for you. That's amazing way to inspire us to all go out and live that dream.

Doree Shafrir: Yeah. It's very cool. Congratulations.

Doree Shafrir: I can't wait to, to hear more about it. Yeah. Keep us posted. May you be an inspiration for us all indeed. Well, here we are. Well, Kate, it's been a pleasure. I would say it's been fun.

Doree Shafrir: Yeah. Yeah. It's been good.

Doree Shafrir: All right. Um, everyone, we'll talk to you again soon. Bye.