Listener Q&A: The Perfect Costco Cadence
Kate returns to bullet journaling and Doree has a Trader Joe’s snack recommendation. Then, they chat about listeners’ responses to Kate’s retirement announcement, the perfect Costco cadence, good colonoscopy foods, and the difference between free mugging a cup of coffee vs a glass of water.
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Transcript
Kate: Hello and welcome to Forever35, a podcast about the things we do to take care of ourselves. I'm Kate Spencer,
Doree: And I am Doree Shafrir,
Kate: And we're not experts.
Doree: Look, we're not, we're two friends who like to talk a lot about serums.
Kate: We've only got a few more weeks together to discuss serums.
Doree: We have two more weeks to talk about serums.
Kate: That's enough time.
Doree: I mean, yeah, we've basically talked all we need to talk about serum.
Kate: I feel like we don't need to mention serums again.
Doree: Nope, we're done with serums.
Kate: I think we did it. You know what I'm saying? I think we did it. We completed that conversation.
Doree: We completed it. It's done. It's over.
Kate: Although I will say again, last night I was like, I have too many retinol products. I don't know what to use. Does any of this matter?
Doree: Oh, interesting.
Kate: There is definitely some reflection on, I've been talking about serums for six and a half years, and have I learned anything?
Doree: I don't know. Have you?
Kate: I think I have.
Doree: Okay.
Kate: But also I am chuckling where I'm like, well, I still don't know which serums to use. Also, I do want to note Doree, I am on a new microphone because my audio has been very wacky for the last month or so. Hopefully this sounds okay, but if for some reason things sound off, this is my preemptive preventative preemptive statement.
Doree: Thank you, Kate.
Kate: My apologies.
Doree: Yeah, it's been very weird because Kate sounds normal as we're recording and then we get the recording back and we're like, she sort of sounds like a robot, so
Kate: Maybe I'm normal. Maybe I seem normal, but I'm also a robot.
Doree: I mean, maybe you're like small wonder,
Kate: A classic show. Anthony and I were trying to explain the conceit of that show to our kids, and it was like explaining there's no way for this to make any sense.
Doree: You were like, her name was Vicky because
Kate: She lived in a closet. She had a giant screw on her back that they would, this is a TV show that if you, by the way, did not come of age in the eighties, you missed out on which a family has a robot daughter. It's a very disturbing show,
Doree: And my sister watched it every morning before school because it was in syndication and played endlessly.
Kate: I mean, I loved it, but in hindsight, when you think about it, it's like they created a small girl to do all their chores
Doree: And she wore something that sort of looked like a maid's outfit. It was very weird.
Kate: A hundred percent.
Doree: No, I'm with you. I'm with you, Kate.
Kate: Anyway, if I sound like Vicky from Small Wonder, it's just because
Doree: you're a robot.
Kate: There's some weird technical difficulty happening on my end and we haven't figured out the problem yet.
Doree: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Any whosies, how you doing, Kate?
Kate: Well, selfishly I just want to make a little plug for myself and then I want to share something that I'm revisiting. Is that okay?
Doree: You have a big agenda today.
Kate: I have two agenda items. Okay. First of all, if you want a signed copy of my new book one last summer, you can get one.
Doree: Wow. Okay.
Kate: And I will, when I say sign, put something, give me something weird to write and I will write it with love within reason, so you can pre-order a signed copy of one last Summer from the Ripped Bodice. I will include a link. I love personalizing books. I love signing books. I love making doodles. The last time around, I drew so many horse heads and eggplants for people in their books, so I would love to fulfill whatever signing request you have, So please,
Doree: that's exciting.
Kate: Pre-ordering is a massive help to authors, as we have said on this podcast before. It just builds interest in the book and it makes booksellers excited, and so if you are inclined and you want to get your hands on my Summer Camp Romance with my signature inside, let's do this.
Doree: Let's do this,
Kate: And then also I have an event in June and I just want y'all to know about it. It's at the same place. Rick Bois. June 13th, 7:00 PM I'm going to be in conversation with my friend Lauren Billings, who's one half of Christina Lauren, my favorite romance authors. Dare I say,
Doree: Kate, it's in my calendar.
Kate: Thank you, Doree. Doree will be there. You can see us both in the flesh. We'll be signing books, we'll be chatting, whatever you want to chat about. I'll answer any questions. It'll be steam and fun. I'm going to try to bring some sort of treat.
Doree: Ooh, a treat. Okay.
Kate: I just feel like if you're coming out on a Thursday night to a book event, you deserve a treat. It's a lot to ask of people.
Doree: I'll not turn down a treat if you're handing out treats,
Kate: Was trying to figure out some sort of cookie situation, maybe some bubbly waters. I'm going to think about it.
Doree: Okay. This is exciting,
Kate: But I would love to see anybody there. That information, we'll put it in the show notes, but that can also be found on the ripped bodice. Now that I got my plugs out of the y Doree, I want to tell you that I have decided to start bullet journaling again, which feels like I'm living in 2016.
Doree: Okay. What inspired this?
Kate: What inspired this? I think I have been kind of binge watching ADHD systems and ADHD coaching videos on YouTube A lot.
Doree: Sure.
Kate: And I've been, I like writing things down. I love that added element of kind of, I dunno, just like I love jotting things down, So I was, now, am I just, is this just some sort of coping mechanism maybe, but I was like, this might be a night. I might need to revisit this with a better, now that I have a better understanding of my brain and my needs, I might revisit the bullet journal. So I am, I'm revisiting it.
Doree: Okay. This is going to be your post podcast life. Just going to be bullet journaling left and right.
Kate: This is my swan song.
Doree: Yep.
Kate: My swan song is just writing little tiny notes to myself in a dotted le term notebook, however you say that. How do you say this word? How do you say this company
Doree: lo term? I actually don't know
Kate: lo term 1917.
Doree: Wow. Okay.
Kate: Yeah. It also dawned on me because I was deep diving into how people bullet journal, and I realized the method of bullet journaling itself doesn't work for me at all. It's more the idea of just allowing myself to get thoughts out on paper that I think is what I'm seeking with my return to the bullet journal concept. I kind of was like, this doesn't have to look like all these fricking YouTube bullet journals. It just needs to be something that helps me.
Doree: Okay. Well this is exciting for you.
Kate: Yeah. I mean, it's like I'm half into it, half not, but I do feel like writing allows me to process what needs to get done in a different way than just putting it on an app. Sometimes they put it on an app and it just feels like, then I forget about it. I put it on my app to-do list, but then it doesn't stay in my brain, and maybe the writing down allows for these important things to resonate.
Doree: Okay. Okay.
Kate: That's my hope because I do feel like this remembering of tasks is a life's work.
Doree: Your life's work is remembering tasks
Kate: Well, do you know what else I've been? No, no. It is a challenge. It takes a lifetime of work to actually figure out how to, sure. Now, do you remember, and maybe you still do this, how you keep a notepad by your bed and you jot down things?
Doree: I do and I don't because I started using the notes app on my iPad. Once I, belatedly
Kate: Works for You.
Doree: Once I belatedly figured out 10 years in that I could sync my notes up across my devices, I was like, oh, well this is handy. So now if I have a thought, and I do sometimes have thoughts, I do sometimes have thoughts, Kate, believe it or not,
Kate: you sometimes have a thought.
Doree: I sometimes have a thought I will just reach for my iPad, fire up the old notes app and jot it down, which is, it just works better for me because then it's in the cloud and I can look at it on my phone. I can look it on my computer, I can reference it. I am trying to find if there's anything in here recently that was something I jotted down in the middle of the night. I mean, sometimes it's a to-do from a month ago that I have in here is call CVS about Bose prescription.
Kate: Oh, that's a good note.
Doree: Yeah.
Kate: And do you check it every day or you kind of just like when you remember you go circle back?
Doree: What do you mean?
Kate: Do you have that notes app open every day to kind of reference, or is it more like an as you need it or as normal?
Doree: The app is always open for me because I use it for various things throughout the day. I really use it like a notepad.
Kate: Okay. Doree, it is literally a notes app for you. Well, I have been putting a post-it note thing on my bedside table, and every night I have been writing on a post-It note what I want to do first thing in the morning so that when I get up I remember and I don't just sit and look at my phone. It helps me set the intention the night before, and then it's right there for me to see when I wake up. Otherwise, I think I would just blow off whatever my intention was.
Doree: I see. I see.
Kate: So I've adopted your practice that you no longer practice.
Doree: I mean, look, I hope it works for you. I have a Trader Joe's product recommendation that I would like to share with the world.
Kate: Wait a second. Like a skincare product?
Doree: No, a food product.
Kate: A food product. Okay. I am ready.
Doree: It is called Ju. Ok bop.
Kate: Tell me everything
Doree: A Korean rice ball with plant-based beef list, bulgogi and vegetables.
Kate: Oh, that sounds really good. Okay. Is this a new lunch item that you have been eating or is this a snacky thing?
Doree: I kind of feel like you would have to eat all, there's three in a package. I think you'd have to eat all three for it to feel like a filling lunch.
Kate: Oh my gosh, this looks so good. I'm here. I'm looking at it on the Trader Joe's website.
Doree: Yeah, so it's a new item. They're 4 99, so a little pricey given the portion size, I would say,
Kate: Because you're getting three in a packet.
Doree: Yeah. I feel like they're more snacky.
Kate: I see here on the Trader Joe's website. They say we recommend them as a hardy snack when you're feeling peckish between meals and they recommend mixing it with the za dipping sauce.
Doree: Oh, that's interesting. Okay, so they are being pitched as a snack. That makes sense. In which case I do think they're a little pricey.
Kate: Well, this is like you could knock off a whole, you're going to eat a bag in one sitting, right?
Doree: Oh, totally. I mean, I will
Kate: You're not eating. Yeah, like one per snack. Three are a snack.
Doree: Yeah. That's how I feel
Kate: Now I hear you on the price this, but I also do think, excuse me. I think sometimes, I don't know, when you find something that works, sometimes it's worth the extra.
Doree: Yeah. Or I could just go to H Mart. I could make them, I guess I just Google them. They seem pretty easy to make.
Kate: I mean, you could, but why make something when Trader Joe's is making it for you?
Doree: Kate, you're not wrong.
Kate: Is my attitude about a lot of things.
Doree: You're not wrong. You're not wrong.
Kate: I feel like sometimes I'm just like, trader Joe's does it better than I ever could, so why bother?
Doree: That's true. True.
Kate: I hope that's not a bad attitude to have, but you know what I'm saying.
Doree: No, it's not. I don't think that's a bad attitude to have. I mean, especially we're busy people. Sometimes you just need a microwaveable rice ball.
Kate: Yeah, or just like a box of banana bread mix. Trader Joe's really does a great job with their mixes in a box.
Doree: I've never had their banana bread mix.
Kate: It's pretty good. I like making banana bread from scratch and it's like in terms of baking, it's like one thing I can actually do. It's probably the easiest thing to bake, but in a pinch, you got to bust down one of those boxes they make. They have some really good, oh yeah, they're baked boxed goods. I'm always grabbing.
Doree: Okay. Hot tip.
Kate: Hot tip.
Doree: Hot tip. Alright, Kate, should we take a little break before we get to our listeners?
Kate: Sure. Friendly reminder, you can still visit our website Forever35podcast.com for links to stuff that we mention on the show. We're on Instagram @Forever35podcast. You can find all our favorite products at shopmy.us/forever35, and if you want to reach us, look, you've got another week or two here. If you want to reach me, I mean at this number, you can always reach me on Instagram or my website. But here's the deal. Voicemail (781)591-0390. You can email us at Forever35podcast@gmail.com and of course you can text us at that voicemail number.
Doree: That's true. You can also do that.
Kate: Alright, we'll be right back.
Doree: BRB. Alright, we are back.
Kate: So this is probably a little self-indulgent, but we did receive some nice messages from folks after we shared that I was departing the pod. Thank you for those nice messages. By the way, that was really kind of you.
Doree: We really appreciated them.
Kate: We did. It really is nice to receive positive feedback.
Doree: Yeah,
Kate: I dunno. It was just nice.
Doree: Yeah, I mean, let's be honest.
Kate: Here are a few of those. I just wanted to share. Okay, this person wrote, just listen to the new app. I'm in. Awe how brave you both are. Okay. Obviously I'm sharing this because someone called us Brave. This is very nice. It must've been a hard decision for you both. I'm excited to hear the new pod. I'm not ready to say goodbye to Forever35, so thanks for continuing this.
Doree: I just want to say that I really appreciate everyone who has been so supportive about me continuing the pod without Kate because that was a really hard decision for me and I was transparently very apprehensive about how people were going to react. That's why I have cloned Kate and captured her voice using ai. She's just going to be here for the rest of eternity
Kate: Talking about the weirdest stuff with that new AI voice. That's a hologram
Type in,
Doree: I told you that. Right? I looped in on that.
Kate: I feel like I do remember one email casually mentioning it, but I don't think I fully knew the extent of the AI cloning.
Doree: Yeah. That thing I had you sign, that was you giving me rights to your voice likeness for eternity. in perpetuity.
Kate: Oh That's what that was.
Doree: That's what that was. So yes, I am keeping the pod going with Kate, but what's dark Vicky and
Kate: Its awful is you probably could ai.
Doree: I know as I was saying that I was like, I probably could.
Kate: Oh my gosh. AI is terrifying.
Doree: AI is the worst except when it helps me.
Kate: That's right, that's right.
Doree: No, but in all seriousness was it was just really nice to see everyone's reactions and Elise was also, Elise was seeing people's reactions and she was really happy to see that and she's excited and she's going to be on the pod next week, so
Kate: I'm so excited to talk to her.
Doree: Yeah,
Kate: We're just going to monopolize the conversation with Costco talk.
Doree: I know. I was like, oh, I see what's happening here.
Kate: You've become a recent Costco advocate.
Doree: It's true.
Kate: So I think you'll be able to participate. I you're too worried about it.
Doree: I'm trying not to derail this conversation,
Kate: Derail it,
Doree: But I am trying to figure out what the appropriate Costco cadence is for my lifestyle and I'd love to have, people weigh in
Kate: I mean how often people go.
Doree: Yes. Given that you live close to a Costco and I don't, I mean I don't live super far, but it's like a 20, 25 minute drive from my house. I'm equidistant to two and they're both about, they're basically the same. One of them I prefer to the other, so I will probably end up going to that one, but weekly feels like a lot. Monthly feels like not enough. Is it a bimonthly situation? How often do you go? Do you just pop over because you live so close?
Kate: Well, I can pop in, but I don't honestly. Sometimes it's like once a month, once every two months.
Doree: Oh, Okay.
Kate: Other times I'm there every week. I also use their pharmacy, so sometimes I'll go pick up a prescription and be like, I need to go get 1000 raspberries and then I'll just leave with those two things. I don't have a great personal Costco cadence actually, now that you mention it.
Doree: Interesting.
Kate: Because often what happens is I'll go and I'll stock up on a couple things and then one day we wake up and we're like out of coffee and then I must urgently run to the Costco. So
Doree: Yes, this is what I'm also wondering, is there going to be one thing that I get at Costco that when I run out I'm like, okay, it's time to go to Costco maybe is the big box of Skinny Pop. I hate the name but love the popcorn.
Kate: I know the name's the worst
Doree: Popcorn.
Kate: I love the big box of skinny pop popcorn. That's a big staple in my home.
Doree: I'm like, maybe when I see that's running low, that's like, because it's also so much
Kate: That's a good time.
Doree: It's so much cheaper. I mean at Sprouts, a bag of six little bags is like $8.
Kate: Oh, I know. And you're getting a box of what, like 36?
Doree: Yeah, something crazy and what is it, like $15 or something?
Kate: Maybe.
Doree: I forget how much it is, but it's noticeably cheaper and I eat a lot of that popcorn, so maybe that's my thing.
Kate: I like that for you. For us it's really toilet paper and coffee and then
Doree: You get the peets coffee, right?
Kate: No, I get the Starbucks. It's Kirkland, but it's like Kirkland brand, but then on it, it's like this is Starbucks
Doree: And do you get the house blend?
Kate: I'll look in our cabinet. I don't remember what we have.
Doree: I got the house blend and I don't love it. I think I like a lighter roast, so I'm going to see if they have a lighter roast and then, but yes, coffee would be another one.
Kate: Also. I do love buying produce from Costco, but it's just, I can't always get there just for produce.
Doree: It's too much for us. We can't go through that much produce. I think.
Kate: Oh boy. I have a kid who can eat a Costco sized container of cherry tomatoes in one sitting.
Doree: Whoa, Okay.
Kate: I know which,
Doree: I mean Henry does eat a lot of strawberries, but I feel like, I don't know. Anyway. Alright. Sorry. Like I said, I knew I was going to derail this conversation and I did. I did.
Kate: Or you railed it. Maybe you didn't derail it. You rera it. Sorry. TMI. Here was another nice message, just a real short one. Just had to reach out and say thank you and share my journey with Forever35. We'll miss you, Kate, and I'm excited to see where Doree takes the pod next. I found Forever35 during the pandemic and immediately binged all the back episodes I had missed. I so appreciate how open you both were about your journeys with mental health throughout the pod. It prompted me to get into therapy myself. We heard from a lot of people actually who mentioned the daily podcast. We did during the earliest days of the Covid pandemic lockdown. We called it here for you and we did a daily podcast and I just wanted to say that I found that really moving and I just want to say thank you for letting us know that that was impactful for you. That meant a lot and when we were doing it, I think, I don't know about you, but I was in a daze. Life was so a bonkers.
Doree: Thousand percent. It was also the only thing that was anchoring me to any sort, I don't know, schedule and
Kate: Anything. My kids were feral. It was just we had no school, we couldn't see anybody. We couldn't go to the playground. It was just lunacy.
Doree: It was also crazy because I remember we were like, we're going to do this until the lockdown is over. So probably two or three weeks, four at the most
Kate: And then three months. We did it for March, April, may, and then by the end of May I think we were like, well, this doesn't seem to be ending, so we're going to pause this daily podcast we've been doing. But I think a lot, I can only speak for myself, but sometimes I kind of find myself burying that time of my life because it is still very traumatic to kind of go back and think about just how awful it was personally and also on a larger community, community level scale and societal scale. So that was a hard time. We have all been through a lot of hard shit Everybody.
Doree: Yes, for sure. Okay.
Kate: An email for you about butt stuff.
Doree: Do you want me to read it?
Kate: Yeah, I do.
Doree: Just heard Doree talking about her upcoming colonoscopy. Wanted to recommend peak clean pick for prep. I feel like maybe I've written about in about this before, but I had my first colonoscopy at 29 and I feel like I need to shout it from the rooftops that it was not bad at all. It's just two eight ounce bottles that taste like Gatorade and you drink one the day before and one the day of the rest of the liquid. About 40 ounces each day is whatever you like to drink, water, juice broth, et cetera, and you do it over four to five hours each time. It was so much easier than drinking so many liters of traditional prep liquid, like my parents have had to, and the experience, if you catch my drift, was honestly really gentle. Not at all painful or scary slash icky. I literally kept thinking that's it. Also, can't recommend enough. Switching to a low fiber, easy to digest diet three to four days before makes everything much easier. I wish you the best Doree, you can do it. It's not so bad.
Kate: Alright. I love a colonoscopy pep talk.
Doree: I'm just wondering. They told me you should eat sort of light in the days before, but I don't really know. Yeah. Foods that are low in fiber, this wait
Kate: Low in fiber or high fiber?
Doree: This low fiber, I thought I was like, oh, shouldn't it be high in fiber, but no low in fiber. This diet reduces stool volume, the gut and allows the intestines to be clear during inspection.
Kate: Ooh.
Doree: So yeah, so two days before the colonoscopy you start your low fiber diet, then you do the clear liquids, then nothing.
Kate: Then you shit your brains out and then you get your colonoscopy.
Doree: That's great. Oh, here's a whole chart. You basically are eating like okay, you can't eat any beans.
Kate: Oh god, no. No,
Doree: You can't.
Kate: Can you imagine
Doree: You can't eat any berries?
Kate: Oh no. Okay. Well, I like a berry.
Doree: You definitely can't eat any cabbage or Brussels sprouts.
Kate: Oh god,
Doree: This is a really funny list. No coconut.
Kate: Okay. Okay.
Doree: No relishes or pickles anyway. Yeah, I will report back how the colonoscopy goes.
Kate: I look forward to hearing about it.
Doree: Oh, you sure will.
Kate: Should we take another break, Doree?
Doree: Yeah, I think we should.
Kate: Great. Let's take a break. We'll come back with a few more questions.
Doree: Okay.
Kate: Alright. We've got a couple skincare makeupy questions here. Text message. Any thoughts on OC as products? I'm specifically wondering about their body oil and lotion as well as their facial oil. They seem to have quite a following, but I'm thinking it's likely that I can find something just as effective but less pricey. Okay, so I think two things are true here. Number one, their products are really great. They've been an advertiser on this podcast in the past, so we've gotten to try their products. Their body oil specifically was probably my favorite thing of theirs that I tried. They have a great body scrub. I don't recall trying their facial oil. I suspect it's probably great. I think they do have quite a following because the quality of their products is really nice. That being said, I agree that you can probably find something just as effective for less of a price, not only agree, I'm certain.
Doree: Yeah, I agree with this. I like their products. I agree that they're expensive
Kate: And I think sometimes what you're investing in is yes, the quality of the product, but maybe also the company's ethos and how the products are made. I don't know enough about the brand to dig into what their practices are, but evaluate what they're offering and if you feel like it's worth the money, great. But if not, I mean you just look, you can buy a big ass bottle of jojoba oil at the grocery store or online for not too much money and that stuff does the job and does it well. You know what I'm saying?
Doree: Oh, I do
Kate: you know Doree?
Doree: I sure do.
Kate: Doree knows. Here's an email we got Doree. Have you ever tried Jones Road makeup? Instagram is targeting me hard and I am intrigued by their tinted moisturizer.
Doree: I have tried some Jones's Road products.
Kate: Okay.
Doree: I have liked everything I've tried. I wouldn't say I have loved everything I've tried. I found their miracle balm to be very sticky. I didn't love the consistency of it. I thought it looked nice, but I didn't love the consistency, so that made it a no for me. How about you, Kate?
Kate: So I've also tried some of their products. I too was the miracle bomb personally confounded me because it's such an enormous container of something that you don't use a ton of that I needed a quarter of the container otherwise, I mean I would be using that container of Miracle bomb for seven years. I think it's just huge and now maybe if it's an everyday thing that people use, it makes more sense. But for me I was like, what the heck? I don't get this. I will tell you, I recently went on the Jones. I think must've also been Instagram influenced or targeted in some way. They have these very effective ads with Bobby Brown just talking about aging skin and why if you're getting older you don't want kind of traditional makeup brands. And I was like, yes, Bobby Brown. So I went onto the Jones Road website and I put a bunch of shit into my cart because some of these products do look intriguing to me. The face pencil and the Neutralizer pencil I thought looked really interesting and I hadn't tried those. I had tried Miracle Bomb and maybe an eyeliner, a mascara and an eyeshadow of those things. The mascara was my favorite of their products, but then I never bit the bullet and now I kind of have other products that I like a lot. So I haven't been called to purchase anything from Jones Road. I really like merit. Their makeup is what most of my everyday stuff is from them and I really love it. So I don't know. It might be another brand to look at that's kind of in the same genre of makeup, I guess.
Doree: Well, I think we've given our thoughts on both OC and Jones Road. Okay, I'm going to read this last text because it is so funny to me. I absolutely knocked my tee and screwed up my keyboard a few months back, but the idea of drinking out of a travel mug at my desk is such a no. So I still free mug.
Kate: Yep, I see you.
Doree: Well, I get it on my desk right now. We have this,
Kate: Oh, she has a travel mug,
Doree: Travel mug. We also have this travel mug,
Kate: A classic,
Doree: Everything has a lid. We also have this travel mug.
Kate: Oh my gosh. Doree has a whole shop of water bottle on her desk.
Doree: We need to talk about your thermal coffee mug usage,
Kate: How many you have and how many do you need?
Doree: Yeah, I'll use them and then I'll collect on my desk and then I'll put six in the sink at once and he's usually the one who does the dishes, so he's like, wait a second.
Kate: Anthony definitely thinks I have a water bottle problem and he's not wrong.
Doree: I think mine, I think Matt has correctly diagnosed me with thermal coffee mug caraf travel container.
Kate: You did just have two. You did just show me two.
Doree: Well, one was for iced and one was for hot. Hello
Kate: Of course. Yes. That makes sense. You know what, but honestly that makes sense to me. You do not have to justify Either of those things.
Doree: And then I had a water bottle.
Kate: This is reasonable.
Doree: I just don't trust myself around liquids and electronics, so everything must be closed at all times.
Kate: Now I have something I just need to pose, which is why is it that I love to free mug, but I would never bring a glass of water over to my desk. The thought of having a glass of water at my computer makes me want.
Doree: You would have a hot coffee or tea in a mug, but you would have a water bottle.
Kate: I always have a water bottle. Yes. Right now I currently have a sparkling water and my big ass Stanley water bottle, but if I was having a coffee it would be in a mug, but I would never bring a glass of water.
Doree: That is interesting.
Kate: I don't know what the psychological
Doree: Hang on is because you think it would spill?
Kate: Yes. Yes I do. But why the water and not the coffee, which is just water with coffee in it. Something to talk about in therapy I guess.
Doree: Wow. We need to get to the bottom of this.
Kate: Once I solve all my other coffee,
Doree: We only have two more weeks to get to the bottom of this. We just have a list of things that we need to solve of things before you leave,
Kate: Kate needs to figure out. Yeah, honestly the big one is free mug. What is that? What is free mugging? I do think it's a bit of a rebellious personality thing.
Doree: Right. Also stuff just tastes better in a free mug mug.
Kate: It just tastes better.
Doree: I agree with that. But I also like to sip my coffee throughout the morning and so I like having it in something that does not get cold within 10 minutes.
Kate: Now do you microwave your coffee throughout the day? My dad does.
Doree: I will do one microwave, but my coffee habit is hot coffee in the morning with breakfast slash wake up that I then sip on for a couple hours and then usually around 11 or noon I have my Lalo triple latte on ice in my Yeti straw. Tumblr. I'm a little behind today so I'll probably be wired all day but won't be able to sleep. But that is my usual coffee habit. So if I don't finish the hot coffee in the morning, I'm usually not microwaving it for too long. Here's the real use case since you asked.
Kate: I did ask.
Doree: I will put the coffee in the thermal thing if I do it, if I make the coffee early and then I have a few sips, but I'm all discombobulated trying to get Henry to school and then if I don't take the coffee with me when I take him to school and then I come back and by this point the coffee has been in the mug for almost two hours and it's already getting a little lukewarm, but it's almost a full Tumblr or mug of coffee. That is when I will microwave
Kate: following.
Doree: Also, by the way, I obviously don't microwave in the thermal mug. I pour it into a mug and then I pour back.
Kate: Yes. Good. I'm glad you made that distinction. Nobody do that. That would be very dangerous.
Doree: Do not do that.
Kate: Don't do that.
Doree: Well, Doree.
Kate: Yes, Kate. I should just also note I love microwaving my coffee, but my dad the same cup of coffee throughout the day and I think he microwaves it numerous times, which is fine. It's just I love to give my dad shit basically. That's why I'm mentioning it. I love my dad. I do. Alright, well let's get on the highway to the intention zone here, Doree.
Doree: So Kate, how did it go this week with the half marathon strategy, the book promotion?
Kate: Okay, well, I'm basically kind of figuring out how I'm going to train to walk a half marathon, which I think seems easier said than done, than when I did my three mile walk this weekend. I was like, oh, I'm going to have to do 10 more miles. So I have kind of scheduled in a walking training strategy for the summer. Basically just involves more consistent walking at a faster pace. We'll see how it goes. We'll see how it goes and book promotion. It is chugging right along. I have an event in LA on June 13th, which I would love for people to come to. Please pre-order my new book one last summer. I am just going to be shouting it from the rooftops for the next month before it comes out. So bear with me, but it would mean a lot to me.
Doree: I'm bearing with you.
Kate: I know you are. You're a good friend. You are not just bearing, you are supporting this week kind of in line with the part of my job that is writing books. I need to really nail down my writing schedule. I work best first thing in the morning, but that doesn't always work out in terms of the rest of my life. So I kind of need to figure out how to slot in real dedicated focus, time to write and I do it best not at home.
Doree: Okay, so this is good that you know about yourself.
Kate: Yeah, the library and the coffee shops are getting a lot of Kate Spencer right now.
Doree: They probably love that.
Kate: They love it. They see me coming in at that reference desk and they are like, welcome back. They don't care, but that's fine. I like going. I just sitting at the table in the library and doing my thing. Anyway, Doree, how about you?
Doree: Okay, so last week I had talked about how previously I'd been planning Henry's birthday and then now I was switching gears to plan my birthday and I'm happy to report that birthdays have been planned. Thanks in large part to Kate Spencer who very generously offered up her backyard as a party venue.
Kate: I'm excited to host your gathering by just opening my yard up to people.
Doree: I'm excited to gather and I also made some little solo plans for my actual birthday that I'm excited about and I'm just trying to be chill. I didn't click on it because I was like, this is going to be depressing. But I did see a link to an article that was like the age of 47.2 is the most miserable age.
Kate: What
Doree: Of all the ages,
Kate: What? That's an actual, this feels like clickbait, as my kids would say,
Doree: someone did some stupid study. So I'm like, okay, entering into my middle age era.
Kate: You know what? I welcome it. Good for you.
Doree: Thank you. Me too.
Kate: You don't have to fall into whatever trap has been set up for you by this article.
Doree: Yeah. Okay. And then coming up for me this week, I too need to figure out some stuff professionally and make a plan. So I'm trying to figure some stuff out this week. That's all I can say.
Kate: Can't look forward to an update on that.
Doree: I mean, yeah, it's just like how
Kate: How. Question mark,
Doree: How, yeah. So anyway, so that's going on.
Kate: All right, well Doree, let's take this moment to let everyone know that this show Forever35 is hosted and produced by Doree Shafrir and Kate Spencer. It's produced and edited by Sam Junio. Sami Reed is our project manager and our network partner is Acast. Thank you all so much for listening. Bye.