Listener Q&A: Little While Friends
Kate and Doree start a private detective agency and deal with a sinus infection and tennis elbow. Then, they chat about the friends who come and go over a short period of time, joining a classics book club, and moving past a long-term breakup.
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One Last Summer by Kate Spencer
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Kate: Hello, welcome to Forever35, a podcast about the things we do to take care of ourselves. I'm Kate Spencer.
Doree: And I'm Doree Shafrir.
Kate: And we are not experts.
Doree: We're not, we're two friends who like to talk a lot about serums.
Kate: Doree, since we last spoke via podcast recording, obviously you and I have texted daily, I think, I don't know for the last eight years of our lives, but since we've last spoke in a podcast recording, I have had a sinus infection and because I was flying on an airplane for a long time for my kid's spring break vacation, I ended up going to urgent care because I was really nervous about my ears on the flight.
Doree: Oh man.
Kate: And I got two shots in my butt.
Doree: Wow, okay.
Kate: I got an antibiotic shot and a steroid shot. And when I tell you that, that combo cleared me out, it was a mirror. It was pretty amazing. I had a real like, oh wow, modern medicine, thank you. Thank you for this. And I did a whole rigmarole on the plane.
Doree: It, did it get rid of your sinus infection just altogether or just helped for the plane or what was the deal?
Kate: It really pushed it out of my body much faster than anything I had ever experienced. And the pain and symptoms went down really fast. I don't get sinus infections often, so normally I would kind of ride it out, but because I was traveling on a plane, I was nervous about my eardrums. And then I got there and the doctor was like, oh yeah, let's try to deal with this. So I was flow, I was saline spraying. I bought myself these special earplugs called airplanes that are supposed to help with the ear pressure if you have a hard time on planes. So I used those. It was a whole production, but it worked. It worked.
Doree: That's great. I'm happy for you.
Kate: I still have lingering sniffles, but I have never gotten either a steroid shot or a shot of antibiotics. A friend was like, go to urgent care and see if they'll give you a steroid shot. It will clear. It will clear it out in a second. And I was like, okay. And then lemme tell you do it did. I didn't sleep that night, but it cleared it out.
Doree: Wow. Well, I had a cold this past week that my dear son Henry gave me.
Kate: No, I can hear it a little bit in your voice.
Doree: I'm on the upswing. This is better.
Kate: Was this a post family glamping experience? Cold?
Doree: Yeah. So Henry came, he seemed, on Sunday of glamping was Friday to Sunday and definitely on Sunday of glamping, he seemed a little like his nose was a little runny. And then Monday he also, he didn't sleep great and we were sort of on the fence about sending him to school and we did end up sending him to school. But then Monday night he just was clearly sick and Tuesday and Wednesday he stayed home.
Kate: Oh buddy. Oh no.
Doree: And then by Thursday I want to say I was sneezing and I was like, oh boy, here it is.
Kate: Oh, that's so worst here.
Doree: Here's the cold. So yeah, just is what it is. But yeah, just was stuffed up and coughing and stuff.
Kate: It's really something when the cold arrives, it amazes me every time with this sinus infection cold that I just had. I felt fine that morning and then six o'clock at night I was like that kind of, all of a sudden it just knocks on the door and you're like, oh shit, is this, it always happens for me at night. I don't know about you. And then I go to sleep and then throughout the night the lump arrives and my sore throat begins and the next morning it's born.
Doree: Totally.
Kate: And I don't like it. I don't like it at all.
Doree: Same.
Kate: I'm sorry. You've been dealing with a cold. It is like, it's nice when it's just a cold, but colds suck a lot. They suck pretty hard.
Doree: That's true, Kate. It's true.
Kate: Deep thoughts. I know.
Doree: Deep thoughts. I started physical therapy on Thursday for my tennis elbow and one thing, and I bring this up because one thing that they told me not to do is to lean my head on my hand, which I do all the time. And so I'm now having to catch myself and I'm realizing how much I do it and it's really disconcerting.
Kate: And is that just because it puts pressure on the inflamed part of your elbow?
Doree: So yeah, I'm supposed to sort of keep my hand neutral, but it's just funny when it's like, don't do this thing. And you're like, okay. And then every five seconds you're like, oh my God, I do this thing so much.
Kate: Yeah. Well it's a part of almost your body construction. It's a comfortable way for you to be in your body and you've probably done it your whole life.
Doree: Totally.
Kate: Do you want me to just gently call you in if I see it happening?
Doree: Yes, I do.
Kate: I can make a buzzer sound every time I see you doing it.
Doree: Yeah, yeah, I need that.
Kate: Oh, that's so annoying. How is your elbow feeling? Can you play tennis?
Doree: Yes, and I did play tennis yesterday, even though I was like, I don't know if I feel up for it. I was supposed to play tennis on Friday and I canceled because I really wasn't feeling up for it. But yesterday, there have been so many rained out matches this season and I was playing, supposed to play yesterday with my regular doubles partner who I really like playing with, and I was like, if we don't play today, we're never going to play this match, so I'm just going to rally. And I definitely didn't feel like a hundred percent, but I'm glad I played. It ended up being a beautiful day and we won. So even better,
Kate: that's most important,
Doree: Most importantly, I mean,
Kate: Come on, let's be honest. Winning feels really good.
Doree: I mean, I think I've mentioned this before, maybe only on the casual chat, but I think I've mentioned this. When I first saw the doctor about my tennis elbow, he gave me a pretty strong anti-inflammatory that I have been taking every day. And so it helps with the symptoms, but it doesn't cure it. So I'm able to play tennis, but it is sort of like, am I making it worse? I mean, he said I could play, so I'm like, okay, I guess I'll play.
Kate: Well. I do think there is kind of a philosophy that stopping the movement actually doesn't make it. You need to keep using the facility. I mean, that's what shocked me when I broke. I mean obviously every injury is different, but when I broke my hand and got surgery, I assumed my hand was going to be wrapped up for two months and they were time to start using that hand. They wanted me immediately out there typing away, which was good because I was writing a book at the time and needed to type. But it was interesting, I guess my, my perception of what healing looked like was not moving, it being very still and not moving, and it was actually for this specific injury, it was utilizing my hand.
Doree: Okay, there you go.
Kate: So from that one experience, I am a medical professional,
Doree: so I mean, we are basically orthopedic surgeons
Kate: Who needs to go get an actual degree when you can just make a podcast and declare statements to be true.
Doree: It's true, true. Without going into too many details, I do feel that I need to bring up the fact that I've hired Kate for my detective agency.
Kate: I will say I do feel like you and I wonder if this is a trait of a lot of perhaps middle-aged women where we are really good at getting to the bottom of things.
Doree: Oh yeah. The basic gist is that someone I sort of know mentioned a kind of gossipy item, so of course I ran to Kate and I said, we need to figure this out.
Kate: And we did
Doree: with very little information to go on. I will say,
Kate: I tell you, this is my favorite thing to do. It's not even gossip. My other thing that I like to do, if I, for example, go on a tour with a guide, I like to try to see if I can figure out the guide's Instagram. Now does that sound
Doree: Oh, interesting.
Kate: Does that sound a little unhinged? Does that sound like I might,
Doree: no, but it does. I feel like they would willingly give it to you because they probably want to advertise their business.
Kate: I think it's more like I have a hunger to know everybody's life story.
Doree: Oh, totally. I mean, I think that that is a hallmark of many journalists. I don't want to say we're not nosy. We're just naturally inquisitive people and we like to know people's stories.
Kate: Yes, I love it. And that's something that has, and I am imagining it's been the same for you, has been a truth of who I am since day one, as long as I
Doree: totally
Kate: Myw hole childhood till now. Real hariet at the spy energy.
Doree: Yes, yes, a hundred percent. It's just who I'm Kate and you know what? Who you are too.
Kate: It's something that really unites us both. I think it's something we both have in common and honor in the other, and I can't help it. I love getting to the bottom something.
Doree: This is just a roundabout way of telling our listeners that we have opened a detective agency.
Kate: Well, and then here's the thing. I mean, what if we had a midlife career change? So many people do.
Doree: Well, I know quite a few journalists who have become licensed private investigators.
Kate: Are you serious?
Doree: Yes. It's a totally transferable skillset. It's the exact same job essentially.
Kate: What's so funny, I almost said to you truly, this would be a great calling for you. And then I was like, I hate when people say this kind of shit to me. I'm not going to say that, but that's fascinating.
Doree: I'm working with another journalist, actually I should say. She's a former journalist on a different project, and she just casually mentioned the other day that she was getting her private investigator's license, and I was like, you are cool. Must know more.
Kate: Did you find out more? How do you get a PI license?
Doree: She has to take an actual test from the state of California and you get licensed, but then once you get licensed, you get access to all kinds of things. She will be able to run plates.
Kate: Okay,
Doree: Now you're intrigued.
Kate: Okay. Oh, I love, because the other thing I always want to do is when I see a bad driver, sometimes I try to memorize their plates.
Doree: Kate, I do the exact same thing, but then it's like what to end to? You can't run plates.
Kate: No. What is the point of this? Why am I purposely sitting here repeating these digits in my head?
Doree: Oh my God.
Kate: Fascinating. And do people still still hire private investigators? I do feel like the internet has kind of at least tricked us into thinking anybody can investigate.
Doree: Yes, I think they do. A few years ago at our old house, there was a fight on our block, and months later, a private investigator came to our door and wanted to know if we had seen anything. I think he was working for the people who started the fight and wanted to exonerate that. It was not clear, and I never talked to him, but I was like, oh, private investigator, this is a thing. People still do this.
Kate: Wow. Okay. Number one, I'm fascinated. I want to know what if we have a PI who listens to the show, I want to know everything.
Doree: I bet we do
Kate: Too. I also feel like this would be a great book series like the midlife mom, private investigator
Doree: Mom podcast hosts become private investigator.
Kate: I mean, there's something you read mysteries. I don't.
Doree: I do.
Kate: So in my brain, the PI is falling in love with people, but I do feel like that could be a fun, there could be a fun modern mystery series.
Doree: Totally. Let's write it.
Kate: I'm going to just hand that off to you to have you write it and I'll just read it. Oh, I mean I'll write it. Write I'll part, I'll participate.
Doree: Okay.
Kate: Okay. I don't know how to make mystery, but I can write witty banter.
Doree: Okay, great.
Kate: If you come up with the plot,
Doree: I mean, I don't know that I can write mystery either, but I can give it a shot.
Kate: You have a good story brain though. I feel like you're a good plotter.
Doree: Well, thank you, Kate.
Kate: All right, well everybody stay tuned for that series, which what if Doree?
Doree: I mean
Kate: why not?
Doree: I am really at the why not phase of my existence.
Kate: Are you?
Doree: I mean, I have nothing else.
Kate: I think Why not is often is actually a really great life mantra.
Doree: Yes. I mean sometimes it's like, well, I can tell you why not?
Kate: Well, Yes. Okay, that's fair. There are some moments where there's a good reason why not, but sometimes I also think instead of talking yourself out of something, you're allowing yourself in.
Doree: I agree. Yes, I agree with that for sure.
Kate: Well, Doree, we should probably head into a break. What do you say?
Doree: I Mean, fine.
Kate: Can I give a plug for my book that's coming out in two months?
Doree: Of course
Kate: I don't feel great at hyping myself and I to would like to be better about it, but also I should just inform people that I have a new book coming out in two months. And you know what? It almost made me, there were many moments where I was really like what I questioned my self-esteem was in the gutter writing this book many times. Many times I texted.no, but I turned it around. I felt like in the end I really liked where it landed and I'm proud of it. And so I should be more vocal about sharing because I did think of it at a time when I did text you and I was like, I can't do this. I know everybody says this, but I really can't. And you were just like, yes, I know. Keep it going. Keep going. I was like, fuck me. But I did. So thanks for that text. Thanks for that text Doree.
Doree: You're welcome. Now you have a book coming out?
Kate: Yeah, I have a new book coming out. It's a Summer Romance, it's a Second Chance Romance. It's set at a sleepaway camp in New Hampshire, and it is called One Last Summer. It has all sorts of sleepaway camp shenanigans. It's got some steamy love scenes. It's got friendship, it's got a lot of burnout, deals with burnout, deals with work anxiety, and you can pre-order it now and it would mean a lot to me if you did.
Doree: May I just briefly mention that you got a great review from Publishers Weekly.
Kate: You're so nice Doree. Thank you for mentioning that. That came out today. I shared it with you and our writing group text and it was a very nice review. It was like my first trade review for the book and I wasn't expecting it. So then it was sent to me by one of my book publicists and I went, I gasped, but it was very exciting.
Doree: It said, and I quote, this is Second Chance Romance done Right. Alright, let's remind everyone that they can visit our website Forever35podcast.com. We have links to everything we mentioned on the show. We are on Instagram @Forever35podcast. We have a Patreon at patreon.com/forever35 where we are still recapping the oc. We're doing Product recall.
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Kate: So remember how we were talking about names for the people in your friends that you make who then you never see again?
Doree: I do.
Kate: This really clicked with a lot of people and people have names for these friendships. So a few folks wrote in about what they're called in their world.
Doree: Yes.
Kate: So one person just emailed us and said, single serving friend. That's the term. It's like a yo play cup or travel shampoo.
Doree: I like this.
Kate: I mean, I love play, so this hits I do. I freaking love a yo play.
Doree: I mean, I just wonder, does this also imply that this single serving friend is not environmentally friendly
Kate: Possibly.
Doree: Look, just going to put that out there.
Kate: Single serving friend. Ooh, I don't know. That almost has a negative connotation to it. I can't figure it out. It's like one and done. Almost like a one night stand, but a one night friend stand.
Doree: Totally. Yes.
Kate: A one night, Fran. No, don't quote me on that. Okay, this one I thought was really sweet. You want to read this email?
Doree: I would love to. Hi Kate and Doree, a friend of mine, had the perfect term for what to call those people whose paths you cross once and never see again. She calls them little while friends, people you had a special memorable friendship with just for a little while, her mom coined this term when she was young, to explain brief friendships with other kids they'd meet while on vacation camping trips. I think she was upset about leaving her new friends and this was the way her mom explained it to her when she grew up. She felt it applied perfectly to friends you meet, traveling, et cetera. It's a nice endearing term that truly represents that those people matter to you for tiny moment in time. Just thought I'd share. I just need to mention that there is a bluey episode exactly about this
Kate: Really
Doree: Bluey, yes, bluey and her family go camping and she meets a French family and she and the boy from the family whose name is Jean-Luc become besties for two days and then he leaves without saying goodbye. And she's really sad. And bluey's mom is like, sometimes these people come into our lives for a little while and then they have to go.
Kate: I mean, that is a really significant relationship that we all have experience with.
Doree: Yeah, totally. It's a really lovely, profound episode. And there's also a book version of it that Henry really likes to read.
Kate: Do you know the name of the episode?
Doree: I think it's just called Camping. Okay,
Kate: I'm Going to Look it up. My tween and teen children enjoy watching Bluey, so we watch it together.
Doree: Yes. It is just called Camping. It's season one, episode 43.
Kate: It's interesting to think about just in the context of that episode as we were talking about this, I was thinking of people that I've had that experience with who it happened before, social media, I don't even remember their names. When I was on my 21st birthday, I was backpacking in Europe with friends and we were in Paris and we hung out with these three French guys in a completely platonic way. There was nothing sexual. We just had this really fun night on my birthday with these three French guys. I couldn't even tell you their names, but they stay in my brain and have lived there for the last 20 something years. Who knows where they are now,
Doree: But right. Today you would at least be following them on Instagram,
Kate: But it's actually kind of nice to just have that existence and have that be it.
Doree: Totally.
Kate: And I have not, I've not private investigated them like the French boy I was in love with when I was 16. A hundred percent. I have found him online even though we don't follow each other. He's a dj. Okay, well I thought that was really sweet and I will definitely check out that bluey episode.
Doree: Yeah, you should watch it. It's really sweet. And like all bluey episodes, it's seven minutes long.
Kate: I know. That's the best part about Bluey episode. Here's another suggestion. This person texted us and they said, name for the short-term friends with a long-term presence interlopers. And then they just wrote, shout out to carpool. Now, I don't know if this means that carpool, that interlopers are their carpool or if their carpool listens to this podcast and they wanted to shout them out, or maybe they just love carpooling. But I thought we would include that.
Doree: Hard to say.
Kate: I thought we would include that. Shout out to carpooling.
Doree: I love that. On a different topic, we got an email that said, I highly recommend finding or creating a classics book club. I joined one last year that has been going on for over 10 years now. It's a great chance to meet people from all walks of life. There's been many memorable discussions over many bottles of wine. It has also been a good opportunity to read books. I'd have either never read or never gotten through. Anticipating how other people interpret and respond to the book is great motivation.
Kate: I would like to do this because I really am interested in reading classic literature that I have never read.
Doree: So I was thinking about this. Well, I mean I am thinking about this right now because I was English major, so I've read a lot of the English language classics, but I haven't read, I would say I haven't read it all. I think there's definite holes in my classics reading of works in translation. I did take a German literature class, and so I've read some Hee and Thomas man and it was a Mane Kafka, which should tell you something about my state of mind in college, but that is also state of mind in college. That is a, I would say that's also a hole in my kind reading syllabus. I don't know Canon? No.
Kate: Yes, Canon. Canon if you will.
Doree: Canon if you will. I mean I love a classic. I think there's also just like, I don't know, reading classics is fun. I agree with that.
Kate: It might be fun in a club.
Doree: It might be fun in a club.
Kate: My 13-year-old is reading little women right now.
Doree: Oh my gosh.
Kate: Of her own accord. Yes.
Doree: Really?
Kate: And do you want to know, because she and her friends watched, this is the wrong way to frame it. The Timothy Chalamet version. I realize that takes away everything that little woman is supposed to be about. But why am I blanking on what's her face's name? Francis ha Barbie. Why?
Doree: Oh, Greta Gerwig.
Kate: Yeah. The Greta Gerwig directed version of little women starring Florence Pugh and Emma Watson and Cshe Ronan and Timothy Chalamet. He is kind of like the current heart throb of that generation. I guess he's like their Keanu Reeves. I hadn't thought about it in this way. They're river phoenix.
Doree: I don't Know. That's interesting.
Kate: Yeah, he's crushed on a lot. So I think the intrigue was there and then my daughter loved it and she's loving the book, so that's been very cute to watch.
Doree: Oh, that's very sweet.
Kate: Yeah, it's a great book.
Doree: It's a great book.
Kate: Let's switch gears again.
Doree: You know what, Kate? Let's actually a break. Let's take a break and we'll do these next couple ones after the break.
Kate: Good call and then we can do the rest of the show.
Doree: Okay. Alright, we're going to take a break and we'll be right back. All right, so we have another email. Hi, Kat and Dora, a partner of four years, just broke up with me. It wasn't totally one way. I also know at this point that it isn't going to work, but he's the one who made the final call that he can't get past certain things about me, like my anxiety. Although he also said that really a lot of this is about him and things he needs to work on, and that ultimately we just aren't compatible long-term. Also, he just isn't sure he wants to have kids. While I am sure I want them, this is my first long-term relationship. I'm about to turn 35 in two days, which is making making me feel a bit of anxiety. I'm freezing my eggs in June, so that helps alleviate some anxiety about having kids. Any advice for mending a broken heart? From what I've heard, it will just take time, which makes sense, but also is hard because I don't want to feel this sad any longer. Any words of wisdom you can provide would be greatly appreciated.
Kate: I'm trying to think of breakup words of wisdom, and I think it's really valuable to just as much as you can let yourself be in the discomfort of the sadness. I know it's so painful to be sad and to grieve the loss of a relationship. And quite honestly, sometimes in some relationships there may always be a part of you that grieves it. There might always be an attachment or a longing or a fond remembrance or whatever, but it is truly the kind of thing where time and it's a very vague time. For some relationships, it's like a week for some, it could be years, but the forward movement of one's life as opposed to just time. I think it's the kind of constant moving forward does help, I think begin to provide you with space, with the ability to kind of enjoy new moments in your life, form new relationships, reflect on the things that weren't working, and also reflect on the ways in which you might be thriving in this new version of yourself. Post relationship.
Doree: Totally.
Kate: But I was just think breakups fucking suck.
Doree: They really suck.
Kate: Four years is a long time.
Doree: Yeah, it is a really long time. I mean, I think now is a great time to throw yourself into a hobby, learn something new, embrace a side of yourself that maybe you've been neglecting. I think lean on your friends. They should be there for you in this time. And I don't think it's the worst thing to casually date either.
Kate: Yeah,
Doree: Why not? I think it also helps kind of lower the temperature a bit.
Kate: You mean take the pressure off a little bit?
Doree: Yeah, exactly. Because you mentioned in your email that you're about to turn 35, you're freezing your eggs. It does seem like you feel some anxiety around this. And so I think just go on some dates. You don't have to meet the next love of your life, but just have a little fun and just give yourself time to heal.
Kate: Good tip Doree.
Doree: Thank you so much Kate.
Kate: Well now we're going to wildly change gears. The biggest gear shift ever. Just imagine the screeching of tires and someone driving in reverse. Here's a text message. Can Doree talk about shoe brands? She's found that work for narrow heels. I have the same problem and discovered a few years ago that I was always buying shoes too small. She's not the only one.
Doree: Thank you for seeing me. My narrow healed brethren,
Kate: You're not the only one out there
Doree: For me. It has been more of a journey of learning about certain types of shoes that I can't really wear. And that includes loafers, it includes ballet flats, it basically includes anything that doesn't have a strap or ties. It also honestly includes pull on boots.
Kate: Oh, because there's no way to kind of tighten.
Doree: Yes, exactly. Any slip-ons,
Kate: Slip-on
Doree: Sneakers, anything like that? Not good. So what I now gravitate towards are Mary janes, they have a strap. Any sort of sneaker or boot or shoe that ties that you can make tighter and sneakers, you can kind of lace them so that your heel stays put a little bit more. Oh, also mules. Anything with an open back is actually fine. Or sandals with an open back, totally fine. But yeah, that has kind of been, oh, instead of a regular heel, I can do a sling back because they have an adjustable strap in the back. So it's that kind of thing where it's been like, oh, I just can't wear this type of shoe. Maybe I could if I found someone who made narrow width, but truly very few brands do. Naturalizer has narrow width but in three styles. And actually I think Naturalizer has really upped their style, the game.
Kate: Yeah, I know I got some cute shoes,
Doree: But most of their shoes do not come in narrow. I find that most brands, if they make a different width, they make wide. So stuff will come in medium and wide and not narrow and medium. Even aerosols doesn't make narrow shoes.
Kate: That's annoying.
Doree: So it's annoying. Kate, in terms of shoes that are known to be a little bit narrower, when I was buying tennis shoes, asics are known to be a little bit narrower. I think Nikes tend to run a little bit narrow. Right now I'm wearing on clouds, which are fine, but it's really, for me, it's really been about the type of shoe and less so the brand necessarily. Although sometimes I find target shoes run very wide. I tried a pair of Mary Jane's recently that my feet were, we're just swimming in. And even with the strap, that didn't help. So what can you do?
Kate: That's a smart way of figuring it out though. I think it's not the brand, it's the style.
Doree: It's usually not the brand with the caveat that there are some brands I think that do run wide generally, but for the most part it is the style of shoe that you have to be kind of aware of and yeah, I remember I bought this really cute pair of silver loafers.
Kate: I know the world
Doree: And they were so cute and I tried heel pads, I tried insult, I tried a million different things and I was like, these are just never going to work. And I think that was actually when I was like, what is going on here? And started really investigating the mystery of my feet and I,
Kate: oh, a private investigation. If you will
Doree: I did, I did a private investigation and if you Google shoes for narrow feet, I feel like I figured this out from the internet that I was like shoes with a strap and all that stuff. And then I was like, oh. So I just can't wear loafers. I just have to accept that.
Kate: Well, you have been wearing very cute Mary Janes with straps.
Doree: Thank you Kate.
Kate: So I feel like you found your footing.
Doree: Alright,
Kate: We should think we should bust out our intentions. What do you think?
Doree: Alright, let's do that.
Kate: Last week I was all about digital cameras. I still need to find a charger for this digital camera. I got on my buy nothing group, but I'll get there and then I will join all the teens who are taking digital camera photos of themselves. And I will be cool. And I will be. I'm already cool.
Doree: You are cool.
Kate: That's what I was, but I mean I will, I do love the idea of having a digital camera because I rely on my phone so much for photos and I'm just looking for little ways to rely on my phone less. So I'm curious. I'm intrigued. We'll see.
Doree: And what do you have going on this week?
Kate: Okay, this week as mentioned up top, I am working on hyping myself up. I'm working on confident self talk.
Doree: I like this.
Kate: So we will see how I do. But that's where I'm at. I really, the only person who can change my own inner narrative about myself is myself. Okay. Doree, you were glamping.
Doree: So last week I was talking about glamping. Glamping went really well other than everyone getting sick. It was very fun and really nice to hang out with the other parents and kids and be in nature. And Yeah, it was just nice. This week I need to figure out a new tennis and fitness schedule. There's a period when I was in a great groove. There were a couple of classes at my gym that I really liked that were at a perfect time for me. And then I was playing tennis at certain times and then for various reasons, all of that has kind gone out the window. The gym no longer offers those same classes. The tennis schedule change kind of things beyond my control have happened. And so I need to kind of figure that out. So that's what I'm doing. That's what I want to do.
Kate: I didn't know that you had had a change of schedule. I have. Why do I need to know everything? I don't know, but I feel like I do.
Doree: You're right.
Kate: You should have let me know about the tennis schedule. Well, on that note, friends, this show for Forever35 is hosted and produced by Doree Shafrir and Kate Spencer. It's produced and edited by Sam Junio. Sami Reed is our project manager and our network partner is Acast. Talk to you later.
Doree: Bye.