Kate takes a cue from Doree and starts sleeping with her phone outside of her bedroom, while Doree talks potentially going back to caffeine. Plus, they discuss burnout and how to actually enjoy a vacation. Then they welcome sisters and co-authors of Burnout: The Secret to Unlocking the Stress Cycle , Emily and Amelia Nagoski to chat about navigating the cycle of stress, solutions to responding to the patriarchy, learning to recognize when you’re burned out, and forming healthy sexual relationships.
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