This week Kate discusses the deep waver, aka her "new" hairstyling super tool, and Doree gets closer to boob liberation and reflects on how it feels to look at old photos of yourself. Then they welcome Ijeoma Oluo, author of the NY Times bestselling book, So You Want to Talk About Race. She talks about how to approach conversations about race, the way cultural appropriation ties into popular wellness practices, the need for more accessibility and inclusion when it comes to hair and beauty products, and why makeup is key to her self-care.

Mentioned in this episode:

• So You Want to Talk About Race

• Hot Tools Deep Waver 

• The 5 AM Miracle

• Built to Spill’s Keep It Like a Secret

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