This week, Kate goes on a girls trip to Palm Springs, confesses to sneaking peeks at Twitter, and works on sleep training herself to rise earlier. Doree recaps her time at the BeautyX Summit, revisits some makeup faves, and shares her recent obsession: the Netflix show Sex Education.

Then they welcome illustrator and author, Ann Shen. She discusses becoming an artist later in life, her morning and nighttime skincare routine, her passion for fake eyelashes, and how she deals with hormonal acne. You can find Ann on Instagram at @AnnDanger.

Mentioned in this episode:

• Biossance Gel Moisturizer

• Sex Education

• Philips Wake Up Light

• NatchBeaut Podcast

• Almost 30 Podcast

• Business of Beauty Podcast

• Dyson Hairdryer

• T3 Curling Wand

• Dyson Airwrap

• Benefit Porefessional Face Primer

• Armani Luminous Silk Foundation

• Wander Beauty On-The-Glow Blush & Illuminator

• BareMinerals Prime Time Eyelid Primer

• PIXI Eye Shadow Palette

• Urban Decay 24/7 Eyeliner

• Hourglass Mascara

• NYX Powder Eyebrow Pencil

• Charlotte Tilbury Bond Girl Lipstick

• Aritzia Wilfred Chevalier Jacket

• MILK + HONEY

• Bad Girls Throughout History: 100 Remarkable Women Who Changed The World

• Legendary Ladies: 50 Goddesses to Empower and Inspire You

• WomanCode: Perfect Your Cycle, Amplify Your Fertility, Supercharge Your Sex Drive, and Become a Power Source

• Simple Brand Cleansing Wipes

• Banila Clean It Zero Oil Cleansing Balm

• CosRX Good Morning Low pH Cleanser

• Thayer’s Witch Hazel Toner

• Acne.org Benzyl Peroxide 2.5%

• NEOGEN Real Ferment Micro Serum

• Caudalie Vinopure Natural Salicylic Acid Pore Minimizing Serum

• Sunday Riley Good Genes

• The Ordinary Azelaic Acid Suspension 10%

• NEOGEN Bio-Peel Gauze Peeling

• Queen Helene Mint Julep Mask

• Super Aqua Cell Renew Snail Moisturizer

• Jojoba Oil

• Evening Primrose Oil

• Mizon Snail Recovery Gel Cream

• Biore UV Aqua Rich Sunscreen

• Herbivore Rose/Coconut Spray

• Rohto Melano CC Vitamin C Oil

• Tea Tree Oil

• 100% Pure Coffee Bean Eye Cream

• LashFood Eyelash Serum

• SmashBox Photo Finish Primer

• Tarte Amazonian Clay Foundation

• NYX Concealer

• Fenty Portable Brush

• Tom Ford Lipstick

• Charlotte Tilbury Lipstick

• STILA Liquid Lipstick

• MAC Lip Pencil

• Marc Jacobs Blush

• Too Faced Highlighter Duo

• Lioele Auto Eyebrow Pencil

• Anastasia Eyebrow Pencil

• Wet N’ Wild Eyebrow Pencil

• Dolly Wink Koji Liquid Eyeliner

• Urban Decay All Nighter Setting Spray

• Fifty Shades of Snail Blog

• Snow White and the Asian Pear Blog

• Skincare Addict Reddit

• Asian Skincare Sub Reddit

• America’s Test Kitchen Cookbook

This episode is sponsored by:

• Scentbird - Get 50% your first month today! Just visit scentbird.com/forever35 and use promo code forever35.

• ThirdLove - Get 15% off your first order at thirdlove.com/forever.

• LOLA - For 40% off your subscription, visit mylola.com and use promo code forever35.

• Joybird - Receive 25% off your first order! Go to joybird.com/forever35 with promo code forever35.

• HelloFresh - Get $80 off your first month! Visit hellofresh.com/forever80 and enter promo code forever80.

Click here to shop all of Forever35's Amazon recs.

To leave a voicemail for a future mini-ep, call 781-591-0390. You can also email the podcast at forever35podcast@gmail.com.

Listen to this episode on Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.

Follow us on Twitter and Instagram and join the Forever35 Facebook Group (Password: Serums).

Disclaimer: this post contains affiliate links.